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Should just rework Aatrox into a physical damage support already.

Dunal·12/26/2015, 2:03:44 PM·72 votes·4,832 views

Just "F*** it" at this point. Try making him a physical damage support that buffs his team. Like Taric but more offensive oriented.

  1. Allow him to charge his Bloodwell to heal allies or even revive them at the cost of his own life.
  2. Ult is a Taric ult that's dynamic in its bonuses based on what you do.
  3. Give him an ability that allows him to pick an an enemy in flight to put both him and and the enemy in suspension for a few seconds (WW ult but no damage).
  4. Make his autoattacks on an enemy buff his allies autos on that same enemy.
  5. Add an AD support item, similar to old Zeke's but less situational.
  6. Give him an aura as a passive. 30% of Aatrox's bonus AD is given to all of his nearby allies (not to himself). 7( Keep his current E, but make it mark enemies that only allies can proc like Leona's Sunlight. This deals incredible damage and has a high AD ratio. Weak in solo lane, powerful in a duo.

Just my ideas.

It fits his character **so **much more and would give him a unique identify rather than being quite possibly the most boring champion in the game, bar possibly the champions that are getting remakes anyway (Taric).

Cue people going "But supports SUCK, why would you want champ to become one!?!?".

It's better than not really being anything and_ actually_ fits him.

76 Comments

HongChongDong12/26/2015, 3:10:29 PM14 votes

I feel like his entire game is literally this.

Early game he lacks any and all amounts of durability and has to be against a lane where he can waste almost his entire health bar in a trade then freely regen it back without the lane retaliating just to survive and not feed.

Mid game once he gets his ult he gains a small window of power where he might beable to 1v1 and kill his laner.

and finally late game he's back to being useless with no damage unless built as damage oriented and even with tank he has no passive durability stats like other tanks so he just gets kited around without being able to auto and gets killed immediately most of the time completely missing what little CC he has.

JMoormann12/27/2015, 12:07:12 AM10 votes

I actually feel like Aatrox is the perfect candidate to be a melee bot lane carry. Basically Morde, but unlike him Aatrox already has a kit that could fit quite well into the bot lane.

He can punish enemy ADCs during laning phase. His early game burst with E-Q-W proc deals decent damage, and he can heal back up easily. He is not limited by any resources as long as he maintains lane dominance, which isn't really different from now. He has CC of his own, he has a powerful gap closer/escape.

However, the great improvement is that unlike now, both he and his enemies will have a fallback mechanic in case he loses that lane dominance: his support. Currently he is very binary: either you are ahead and you can continuously attack your opponent (as you aren't very limited by cooldowns or resources), or you are behind and you can't do shit (for the exact same reason: you don't have any moments where you have all CDs/resources up to give you a whole lot of power).

He also has similarities to ADCs. He is squishy and gets durability by building damage. He is focused on sustained damage, mostly through AAs. He scales very well with items. He gains huge benefits from having a partner, both for fallback and to CC someone to allow him to deal that sustained damage.

There are only a couple of problems. The most important is that he gets a different powercurve. He can be a lane bully, but he should scale good enough into late game to stay relevant compared to Kogs or Vaynes.

Increasing the range bonus on his ult might also help to make sure he doesn't have to jump straight into a teamfight, but stay at a somewhat safe range to allow his team to peel for him while he deals his damage.

Thematically it's also fitting to put someone who leads his allies into battle and turns around battles by himself into a duo lane and into the carry position.

TL; DR Put Aatrox in the ADC spot, a mix between Morde (melee, durability through damage), Graves (get in your face and bully you) and normal ADCs (scaling, sustained damage through AAs).

KING OF MASKS12/26/2015, 5:16:19 PM6 votes

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It fits his character **so **much more and would give him a unique identify rather than being quite possibly the most boring champion in the game, bar possibly the champions that are getting remakes anyway (Taric).

Couldn't agree more.

goldensilver0912/26/2015, 9:17:50 PM5 votes

Actually.... i like this idea, lore wise.

He comes to help the Losing side giving them courage and with he's help create a legendary battle that will be remembered for all history.

A support that gives allies Buff while fighting the enemy. I dunno, if Aatrox hit's 3 times an enemy, depending on what current W Aatrox has, allies will deal extra damage (% true damage ~ RIOT) or heal off damaging that enemy, haling double if they are below 50% HP. The losing side can always win if they don't run away like cowards. Of course Aatrox will need a re-work. Or at least make a new champion with this idea so the Mordekaiser fiasco doesn't happen again (test crate a new role+kit erasing an old one).

Only Play Darius12/27/2015, 12:40:50 AM5 votes

Someone said they should have given Sion's old ult to him

FastAsHeck12/26/2015, 3:19:45 PM5 votes

+1 we need an AD support

Noam Braumsky12/26/2015, 10:51:39 PM4 votes

We should just put a not-broken-as-hell old Sion ult on him. That and some other changes would be pretty cool

Penguin Eclipse12/26/2015, 5:21:27 PM4 votes

Physical damage supports cannot be balanced. That's why they don't exist.

ModCaptainMårvelous12/26/2015, 10:37:19 PM3 votes

Yeah I agree let's completely piss off all the Aatrox players (however many there are) to shoehorn into some wonky kit just for the sake of lore. I love lore but honestly this idea is terrible.

Teslablade12/27/2015, 7:48:45 PM2 votes

He's supposed to be a War God who enables the weak to fight anyway. This makes so much sense.

IxtaliKing12/26/2015, 8:01:02 PM2 votes

If they could make him into a support without destroying his solo laning, I'd be impressed. Being at least a secondary support definitely suits him though.

TonyTonyMordecai12/26/2015, 9:11:58 PM2 votes

I would re-learn Aatrox if this happened. He's pretty awesome now, but this sounds cooler

hudzell12/26/2015, 11:54:36 PM2 votes

I present to you... http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/ilvTqTl8-aatrox-rework-idea-team-sustainphysical-damage-support-idea-from-dunal

JFRANKSTA12/27/2015, 4:07:57 AM2 votes

his biggest problem is that hes a top laner with mid laner stats, crank up his base stats to be more in line with the avrage top laner and make his q punish you less for doing you job. (initiation) maybe something along the lines of healing 5% max hp if you hit 1 champ 10% for 2 and anything above that gives u a shield.

Shrek Luigi12/26/2015, 8:39:47 PM1 votes

I play Aatrox.

He's definitely underwhelming, but I take more offense to the fact that people rush a BotRK every game and build him likeitem 3153item 3124item 3091item 3072item 3026item 3006--and proceed to complain that he gets bursted down instantly in teamfights.

He's a great duelist with a strong midgame, provided you build him properly and not like the On-Hit hypercarry people try to make him.

I haven't tried Aatrox support but I'm gonna go on a limb and say it's a bad idea. Crappy peels, melee AA's, offers very little in the way of 'supporting your lanemate' compared to conventional one, predictable fight-initiation that leaves him vulnerable....reworking a duelist into a support for the hell of it, especially when they bear no semblance to a support to begin with, is stupid.

Keti12/26/2015, 6:42:00 PM1 votes

That's not a bad idea, hell he's not bad support as is.

hudzell12/26/2015, 10:38:31 PM1 votes

rather than being quite possibly the most boring champion in the game

Aatrox? Boring? What? I main him and the only reason I keep playing him is because he's fun as fuck if you're ahead. Get 2 kills early, have the knowledge on how to take advantage of them, and bam, you become this unstoppable god that the enemy team cannot ignore. He is IMO one of the most fun champs in the game.

Full Brain12/26/2015, 2:42:59 PM1 votes

I just bought him the other day and was sad to find out his design was horrible and made no sense. He can't be built well no matter what because he doesn't do enough damage to be a juggernaut or assassin and he doesn't have the survivability to be a bruiser because his abilities take so much health. His passive is worthless you just get camped and one shot. They need to give him a passive that isn't trash and make him an energy champ or buff the hell out of him so he can be a juggernaut.