Question to those who ever climbed out of Bronze. Are you pure solo?

Meurtrierr·3/6/2016, 6:02:16 PM·1 votes·584 views

Did you climb out of bronze as a pure solo or with a duo?

Where did you start in bronze? 5,4,3,2 or 1?

How long did it take you to step out of bronze as a pure or duo?

Questions over

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About me: I uninstalled Lol to play dota 2 because i got mad about the matchmaking. I never lose in dota 2 as a pure solo and i'm nearly 3000 mmr. I started at 2100 and it took me just a few games to be nearly 3000. We always gain +25 mmr per wins in dota 2. BTW, i play lol more than dota 2 (or used to).

In lol, i feel like i'm doing everything. As a jungler, i ward the tribush of my allies because he never wards it even if the ward is free. In the mid phase, i ward the river area because my support don't do it, even if he got Sight Stone(some of them don't even buy sightstone). This is a waste of time when i'm suppose to farm or gank. Bronze players get first blood before the 3 minutes mark. So as a jungler, as soon as i reach level 3 or 4, top, mid or bot is already dead which mean, most of the time, i can't gank as early as possible. Beside, they like to push the lane when it's unecessary which also mean, i'm unable to gank.

In dota 2, if i'm doing something wrong, i'm losing. So if i do everything right, i'm winning. I don't feel like i have to carry as omni-knight even if there's a build that can make him become one. I counter-pick a lot most importantly.

16 Comments

MysteriousBootie3/6/2016, 6:54:11 PM3 votes

Got out of bronze both times solo. I got out technically in pre-season but the matchmaking put me back in after my promos. I didn't even lose half my games but w/e. Honestly it took me a while both times to get out of bronze, but I didn't play a whole lot of ranked my first time, and I didn't play a whole lot of league the second time. I wanna say probably about a month for each time I really committed for that grind, maybe 3 weeks at the earliest. I actually did some troll games so that kinda slowed me down lol

Playing in bronze can be annoying asf, especially since (at least for me) 90% of the games go late-game, full on 40 minutes a piece. The only real exception is when a smurf is on our team or the enemy team and snowballs the game so hard it can't even last 20 minutes. You gotta really COMMIT for those wins and it kinda wears on the mind if you play too many ranked games a piece when they can last so long. Other than those few exceptions, league legit feels barely any different from season 5's slow pacing, and I myself don't really know how to snowball fast enough, and I feel like it has to be a team effort to make that work.

Yeah I feel that same where it feels like I have to do everything. It felt like the only way I could win was by SEVERELY outplaying everyone like it's 1v5. Feels like ya gotta have diamond mechanics and game knowledge just to win in bronze and it's pretty frustrating. Some games you can get away with stupid mistakes but a lot of the time you have to be the balancing act for the rest of your team since most of them lose lane and feed. In my experience one the biggest things you need to do in bronze in a nutshell: have GREAT map awareness, play passively when you don't know where everyone else is which can take a lot of will power and practice, and ya gotta farm and not group too heavy.

This is especially important as an ADC, and I see tons of ADCs on my team or the enemy team spend too much time grouping just because the laning phase is over. They deal no damage but they try to force awkward team fights anyway, meanwhile I'm just farming even if I win lane just so I get those big items up ASAP. Not to mention it gives you constant XP which a lot of people in bronze underestimate.

VengefulMarv3/6/2016, 10:09:34 PM3 votes

I've done it a few times. Depending on where my MM streak is I've ended the season anywhere from S4 to S1. Gotten placed in bronze several times. This time it was B3.

How do I carry out EVERY time I'm placed there? By carrying hard. I usually top or jungle but I'll occasionally mid. I play bruisers and do the hard carry. Xin (been using him since season 2 when he was bad), Noc, Udyr, Jax, Yi. In some seasons using tanks worked; however, they are pretty gimp right now for solo queue. Top lane: Xin, Garen, Darius, Jax, Fiora.

I play things that have damage and can build off-tank without being useless. I make sure I do enough damage to make the enemy team focus me to their detriment or get rocked because they didn't.

Sometimes you will lose games regardless of what you do. It happens. Some teams just can't win. Ward well, dominate your role, make good calls. If you have enough games under your belt you can start predicting some of the things that happen or what some players will do.

mogonk3/6/2016, 6:37:55 PM1 votes

I play 100% solo.

I've always placed in silver and then stayed in silver until this season. This season I place in bronze 3, and climbed to silver 2 so far. It didn't take very long after placements to get out of bronze.

My honest impression of laning in bronze is just that people play so badly that all you have to do is wait for them to do something ridiculous and then kill them. I don't really jungle much, but for what it's worth:

You're right to point out that bronze players push too hard, but this is true of the enemy too...it's not like people who do this are exclusive to your team. And it's also not like you can't gank lanes that are pushed a little. I'd just pick a jungler with high kill potential that can gank early, someone like Xin, and pressure the shit out of lanes. Learn to figure out who the most vulnerable, over aggressive player on the enemy team is and just kill him over and over. Snowball. Win game.

You could also just go for strong teamfighters like Amumu and Malphite. Nobody knows how to end games in Bronze, so it tends to just turn into ARAM past 20 minutes. If you pick Amumu, you will usually win the games your team doesn't feed in. Nobody counterjungles, nobody splitpushes, so the two main counters to Amumu are gone right off the bat.

ElysMustache3/6/2016, 7:00:17 PM1 votes

Season 4 ended SIlver.

Season 5 placements landed Bronze IV.

55 games later, Silver V.

Ended season 5 as Silver II, 155 games. Solo, AP Kog mid.

GenghisEmo3/6/2016, 8:21:21 PM1 votes

Well the thing is, LoL NA servers reward playing like a self centered with low skill cap champs. It rewards you for doing too little. Dota2, on the other hand, rewards your patience a bit more. You are rewarded a bit more for playing smarter from early on.

At least from what i noticed. Hence i got into LoL XD.

But now after playing smarter, i feel like LoL, especially this meta above all others - with the exception of S2 - I am punished for playing smart. To win i have to use a specific champ, otherwise i am going to make it incredibly hard on me since playing smart is completely out of the question. No point in split pushing, wave manipulation, baron bating, cs-ing well... since all that matters is ARAM style play and KDA.

DOTA2, and the other MOBAs like it, seem to reward you more for properly playing the game. I sucked so freaking bad, but maybe i should give it a go now that i think about it. I do miss the slight differences in the way the games play out.

Leeerzeichen3/6/2016, 9:34:38 PM1 votes

i was silver 4 last season and i got placed in bronze 3 this season. I carried myself solo in around 20 games from bronze 3 40lp to bronze 1 100lp by only playing diana jungle. I might not have to best kda with her, but my winrate of 92% (11W 1L) over the last week is pretty good. I also experienced bronze a lot better than expected, most people play really well, they just don't know their champion as good as a gold player (i always get matched with 2-3 gold players in normal games). I'm a bit scared that this post gets irrelevant because i fail my promo, but i think i will be silver in 1-2 days.

EDIT: I won my silver promo with 3 - 0.

Viperjcs19853/6/2016, 10:36:21 PM1 votes

Bronze 3 start. Pushed out doing nothing but JG + top lane hyper carries. Farm till 30min (enemy wont know how to finish a game anyways) then go get your 15+ kills and shove a single lane to their inhib or end the game. If you play top you will need to be sure to get as fat as possible within your lane. if JG make sure you killsteal / rob lanes as much as possible. Yes it sounds like bad teamplay but this is about YOU getting fat and carrying the team. Not giving bad players kills so they can waste the potential.

Encyclopedia3/6/2016, 11:34:15 PM1 votes

I've never been bronze strangely enough, but hopefully low silver ELO suffices.

I was stuck in low silver until the very end of S5 where I finally started to climb and ended at S1. When season 6 came around, I randomly decided to start playing Leona support (before this I was a mid/top/jg main). Pretty basic champion, and I screwed up a lot initially, but I ended up playing her in almost all of my games after being placed in Silver 4 and got to Gold V with a 70% winrate.

I did all of this pure solo, and by the time I reached Gold I was only playing with players that were platinum in S5. My point is, keep looking for ways to improve yourself, and don't think you necessarily have to play a hyper-carry role to get yourself out of bronze. Also, it doesn't hurt to main a champion that snowballs well (or will help your team snowball). I was a counter-picker like you before, but in lower ELO I feel like mastery of the champion more important than this since most players don't really know what they are doing anyways.

Good luck, hope this helps

Tyrone Lannister3/6/2016, 11:39:24 PM1 votes

Climbed out twice. This season and last season. Solo. Bronze is really easy imo

LostFr0st3/6/2016, 6:23:24 PM1 votes

I climbed out of bronze last season primarily solo (like 90% of my games) Placed B1 (only played placements in S4 placed S3) dropped to B3 maining utility supps (Janna was most of my S4 games) said **** that and went Mid/Jung sometimes top and ignored bot. I'd only go bot if I was playing Amumu and had time to kill and ulti.

Took me like 60 games I think to climb out counting the drop I think? Not sure since I'm pretty sure LoLking adds treeline games to the ranked stats.

Just try to track down the enemy jg and piss him off by counterganking, it's super fun.

Moesnd3/7/2016, 12:02:05 AM1 votes

I went on a really bad losing streak and got placed in bronze 1. I kept losing and losing but suddenly i just stopped playing like crap and went up to silver 5 in about two days. Close to silver 4 promos now

crabface53/6/2016, 6:27:04 PM1 votes

Hey, I've been playing since October 2014. Most recently I was placed Bronze IV in placements, and within a month or so (Give or take a week) I became Silver V. Mostly I do solo-queue, but I do some duo-queue with some friends or whatnot, but not as often anymore this season. This usually works for me because I main supp, which allows me to make sure my team doesn't screw up badly half the time.

Usually in games, when I'm not in a supportive role, not a lot of others will be support/utility champ or playstyle. When I do supp, though, I sometimes find it a lot easier to win games, since even though I'm not getting the kills (Usually...), I can let mid/top/adc/jg, whatever I guess, carry. It usually does help me personally by playing supp's with tons of engage and cc, like Nautilus TahmKench Braum Thresh or sometimes even going a little more utility than engage, but play them similar to a utility mid-lane mage, like Morgana AniviaAnnie That's my strat for success anyways, as people usually are better at carrying (or at least trying to carry).

It is possible to carry as a supp tho, see: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2049003078/205896934?tab=overview (Win, but with 4/5's of voice comms) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2115437814/205896934?tab=overview (Loss, but had a decent KDA) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1989870979/205896934?tab=overview (GGWPEZPZ)

Doing a lot more supportive champs does seem to help me when I'm not supp, and I can play passively much better now.

Just my 2 cents, tho

Long story short, going solo and playing supp/utility is how I climbed

If you looking for someone to climb with, msg/friend me. Its always nice to play with someone with the mindset of climbing