when people say "x champ is weak" what are you going off of?
your own experience or charts that you go look up?
If it's just off of charts why do you expect every champion to have a 50% winrate when any retard picks them
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Combination of everything
For example I say Zed is weak because:
-I know his win-rate on the charts is low -I know that he's an AD mid with no innate armor-pen which 9/10 times fks up the AP/AD on a team comp -I know he has virtually 0 utility which is never a good thing, and it also means if he's behind he's gunna be useless -I know he has sub-par waveclear which is like half the purpose mid-laners even serve in a team -I know personally I rarely win with Zed even when I stomp lane -I have an easy time playing against Zed -I observe from experience that when there's a Zed in my game he usually feeds -I observe that even when Zed gets fed, there's a good chance he still won't contribute very much -I know every Zed and his mother's gunna be like "guise trust just lemme split push" even though he's the mid laner who's supposed to be waveclearing the other team's 5 man push down mid inhib.
I think they call champions weak because they weren't able to get a penta with them in the last game they played.
We don't expect every champ to have 50% winrate. There will always be good champs and weak champs. Champs with really low winrates are statistically weak in soloQ (hence their low winrates). This doesn't mean that those champs are unplayable. Many of them are just really hard to perform well with and/or only really work in organized plays (LCS/worlds) hence their low winrate in soloQ. Many of them are actually intentionally nerfed to this state because they otherwise dominated in the tournaments (Ryze, Azir, Gragas, Kassadin). However, this does mean that if a player with no history of playing this champ picks him, he's less likely to perform well compared to when he'd pick a high winrate champ like Ahri, Lux or Wukong.
Note that it's important to seperate LCS from soloQ. Both have different METAs and strategies and have very different values for each champion. What works in LCS doesn't necessarily work in soloQ and vice versa (e.g. devourer was OP in soloQ but never seen in LCS, Gragas is one of the main junglers in LCS, but one of the weakest in soloQ.) It's important to say in which mode you're saying a champ is bad and that you use statistics/other evidence that is relevant to that specific mode. Charts (like champion.gg) are extremely representative for soloQ power. The most important variables are winrate and pick rate but also banrate, playerbase avg games and other statistics matter. Whether they're good or bad in LCS, however, doesn't matter. This only matters when you're talking about a champ's overall balance and whether or not he needs changes and where he needs them.
A lot of people base it off their inability to play the champion well. Rather than admitting they need practice they rather put the fault on the champion's weaknesses. In fact, you can look at many champions that are called "weak" here and you'll see they are on average doing just fine in soloq compared to many other champions. I still remember when Warwick was 'weak' while I was abusing him before with just golem/tank build.