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azir solution

1ncite·7/24/2016, 3:16:32 AM·2 votes·1,033 views

The emperor has dethroned. and a change was needed this nerf we are in as of 6.14 is clearly a placeholder nerf wile riot decides what to do with him, and i believe i have the answer.

the changes P- increase the CD on his tower significantly and make it scale with CDR and his ultimate level. so that with 45% CDR and rank 3 ult the CD will be what it is now.

Q- nerf damage to this skill MASSIVELY i would even say you could remove it all together. nerf the range on this skill at rank 1 and make it scale up to the current range.

W- make the attack speed scale with level now change his soldiers damage to scale with rank not level BUFF the soldiers damage at rank 5 but still starts weak to compensate having little to no damage on Q. also most of the added damage should be in AP scaling with low base value to make him a hyper carry that needs items to take off.

E- fine as is.

R- up the CD at rank 1 and 2

why this will fix him general the big problem azir has the that he can poke and DPS both to well (and his kit was way to overloaded on release but that part is fixed now) by nerfing the Q damage MASSIVELY or removing it all together. you force azir to max W first AND because now his Q is what gives him long range both to poke AND to shurima shuffle for long ranges instead of small ones. this means that in the early game he has a discernible weakness of short range and less mobility. this way he needs to have W AND Q maxed (lv 13) before he has both ranged poke and DPS.

for pro play specifically the CD change on his P and R are also a huge help for pro play because he cant azirsec as often and that tower is op for sieging though not as big a deal for us plebs in low to mid elo.

TLDR: basically shift most to all of his damage to his W to force it to be maxed first. But make it so that until his Q is maxed second at lv 13 he will be short ranged.

17 Comments

Marshbouy7/24/2016, 3:18:52 AM4 votes

how to make azir completely useless*

YurÌ on Ice7/24/2016, 2:51:39 PM3 votes

is this another one of the Anti-Azir circlejerk QQ threads or can I state out that Azir has 39% winrate without being downvoted?

Zane Zephyr7/24/2016, 3:20:38 AM2 votes

The one thing that I think makes Azir oppressive in lane is the immediate auto attack he gets in after he uses his Q. I feel like if they put a small lockout on being able to attack after using your Q, he would be a little bit easier to play against. Right now, if he uses your Q on you it's almost a guaranteed thunderlord's proc after he autos and a lot of your health is gone.

JosephAngelo7/25/2016, 1:19:43 AM2 votes

By buff his soldiers damage to scale with rank I assume you mean how many points in w and NOT champion level? In that case that might work. You're right that he wouldn't be able to poke until he levels Q. you may want to leave attack speed on w though. he might be able to do more damage with the bonus attack speed than with the increased base damage from leveling his w. The result might be Azir players still maxing q for the increase range and poke AND attack speed, which might actually behave like a buff to azir since he would be able to max one ability and get increased range and attack speed.

I think most people who understand why azir is so problematic would say that he has too much mobility and the best CC ultimate in the game to have the damage of a hyper carry AND ON THE OTHER HAND he has to much area of influence to be a battle mage; his designers haven't clarified his identity.

He should have no mobility and cc and TONS of damage OR he should have mobility, cc and less damage and probably some tank.