@Riot, what are your design perspective on passives?

Cardbox frog·8/28/2014, 3:49:36 AM·2 votes·857 views

I wonder what's Rito's view on this, after all passives have never been a very consistent game-element on League of legends.

Some passives provide very little and others are hell strong and define a champion. Shyvana Shyvana's passive is forgettable and could be part of her normal scaling Tristana Tristana's strength and personality are defined by her changing range

Certain skills have properties that would have made sense as a passive and vice versa. Khazix Kha's R modify the rest of his kit on weird ways, making it more of a general passive. Karma Karma's passive only modifies her R, so it could have been the passive part of her ultimate.

A common trend is that Passives tend to get more and more convoluted as champions go by. Multiple passives actually became a fairly common thing, no longer being a particular trait of the Twilight champion (Akali). Doesn't this go against clarity and readability?

With the upcoming champion Azir it's the first time we actually see an active passive.

  • Some older passive had tricky attributes that required the player to move in particular ways to reap the benefit from the passives. Zac Zac has to collect blobs to heal. Thresh Thresh requires you to collect souls to gain armor. Yasuo Yasuo has to move around the map to receive a shield.
  • Other older passives interacted with the rest of your kit. Malzahar Malzahar has to shot beams to manipulate his voidling Annie Annie has to collect stacks to stunt her enemies Maokai Maokai heals on auto-attacks.

That's not how Azir second passive works though. His passive is not complimenting the rest of his kit, there is no interaction between them. It's an stand-alone active skill with inner-cooldown that does something on the map. Except for the requirements of ruins is not really that different from Heimmerdingers' old turrets.


DISCLAIMER Just to make it clear, I am not here to complain. I just wonder what direction Riot plans to go and if they are planning to (eventually) rework older champions' passives to fit better their criteria. If you are not here to discuss, feel free to take your QQ somewhere else. item 3070item 2044

4 Comments

YouLostMe8/28/2014, 5:27:56 AM2 votes

As far as passives interacting with the rest of a kit, that's not uncommon. Kassadin and Fizz are good examples, as are Zyra, Wukong, Anivia, Galio, Rammus, and Vladimir. I'm pretty sure passives are just a place to put consistent power, so there's always something distinguishing about a champion that can tie a kit together.

SerBlaise8/28/2014, 3:32:51 PM1 votes

we actually see an active passive.

mind=blown. Is anything real anymore????