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I swapped from Supo to ADC this is what i've learned

CurS1VE·10/18/2019, 4:56:24 PM·7 votes·3,777 views

I learned flat out that AD is a lot harder than I thought but I'm slowly getting use to attack move.

Edit: Hmmm, after getting some replies I think people are misunderstanding this thread. It's not a complaint thread or me trying to bash sups or adc or anything, I'm saying there is something lost in translation between the 2 roles and I am suggesting that if you support you should learn AD as well and vice versa so that you can better understand the lane.

The biggest thing I've learned is that many of the Mage Supports I've played with don't actually know the matchups well (personally when I support I always knew when I was stronger than the other champs but meh). I see how volatile the Bot lane really is when everyone wants to carry and everyone thinks they are really good, nobody wants to freeze lane (i do tho) not many supports know why I froze the lane right outside the turret some of them break the freeze with attacks and i'm like plz plz don't break it.

I think the stigma of Bot lane is that "Whoever is pushing the Wave is Winning" and while in some respects that's true it doesn't mean they are. It's been interesting playing this lane and seeing ppl play supports I play and using them so weird and I even had 1 guy who was playing Brand Supo decide 3min in that "He doesn't Trust me to Carry"...I didn't say anything, i was just like "mmkay man, whatever you say" he proceeded to try and take my CS (i still got a lot of it tho) and he would INT but I would just be farming and occasionally get a Kill here and there on Twitch. (Oh i ended up carrying that game and getting honors while that guy ended up feeding and got reported lol)

I understand now how I was with Supo, I would play something very strong early like Zyra or something like that even Galio is pretty strong and those are 2 of my best picks; and many AD's would be playing something VERY weak and I didn't understand HOW weak AD was (excluding Draven, MF, Lucian and in some respect Kalista) so even tho i would trade decently I would be really critical of my AD for not helping as much as I thought they could but I see now most of them really can't do much early so me getting frustrated wasn't really fair.

People should play Both roles imo and play Mage, Enchanter and Tank sup as well as AD so they can really understand the power spikes better because it's obvious playing that most including myself don't fully understand when other champs come online / power spikes

36 Comments

Crispy0Snake10/18/2019, 6:30:04 PM4 votes

Just that experience of autofilled/troll support every so often makes me never want to play ADC

I tried kinda hard to learn Caitlyn and I can play her in my rank, but that risk of getting a fkin troll, it's not worth it lol

A bone head amalgamation of a player can play ADC and realise "me hit minions, acquire gold" and that's all you really need

A bone head support.. they're gonna play Lux and E the wave, take cs and wonder why they have no wards at 15min and why your lane is so far behind

SirGank10/18/2019, 5:30:59 PM4 votes

I like you and respect your willingness to try the other shoe.

I play adc and support so it's always frustrating when you get a support that has no idea what you're doing or what your lanes strength and weakness are. It gets worse when their actions can cost you the lane. Can't count how many time's I've frozen a lane and a support decided it's time to take all the cs and push while we have no vision and our jungler is on top side, causing us to either die or lose exp.

I think it can go to other roles too. Trying them out to understand their strengths and limitations helps a lot understanding why someone can or can't help in a given situation

IainG1010/18/2019, 6:06:12 PM3 votes

Mostly what I've found doing the same, is that most people in Low-Mid ELO CBA to play support and just go Spellthief's into full mage. Never upgrade to Frostfang, don't ward, and if you're really unlucky, steal farm. The team almost always ends up losing, and the only time I've seen it actually work is when the enemy support has done exactly the same thing, but is slightly worse at it than your non-support.

I report them every game, but for now I just can't be arsed to deal with their tilting bullshit and have gone back to Support, because at least if my ADC is shite I can help others. As a starved solo-ADC, I'm still pretty useless.

Pika Fox10/18/2019, 5:25:00 PM3 votes

Thing is, the support sets the lane pace. If the adc doesnt follow with the support on the pacing, thats on them.

All ADCs can do something early to go with an aggro lane. Most supports can do something to help an aggro adc. Its up to the support to recognize the matchup and set the pace and make the calls, and for the ADC to respect those calls and follow the pace (only ignoring the obviously bad ones that would net the enemy a free double).

The thigh guy10/18/2019, 6:22:08 PM3 votes

I play both adc and support. And mage supports are the worst thing ever as an adc. You just have to sit and accept you don’t have a support. You have a second Mid

preternatural10/18/2019, 5:47:27 PM2 votes

so this is why i always get friend requests after playing support no one is actually playing support these days and people wonder why the game feels imba -_-

G0blinSlay3r10/19/2019, 10:05:01 AM1 votes

99% of the support with me HAVE NO IDEA WTF THEY ARE DOING THEY KNOW LESS THAN I DO so if i'm iron 4 WTF are they? wood 666?

R0XTAR10/18/2019, 6:23:58 PM1 votes

The thing is, it's not about a champion being strong or weak. It's about coordination between the ADC and support and not just running into tower hoping that something good will happen.

You gotta know how to (if you have it) cc chain, when to actually NOT fight and just get some poke in, when to auto champs instead of the minions, etc.

Just because the support goes for an all-in or the ADC does doesn't necessarily mean that they should go that hard. It's just proper balance between aggressiveness and being too shy to even step forward.

E.G. mechanics and basic game knowledge-- both come with time and being familiar in how each role works.

JackMcCarry10/18/2019, 7:18:52 PM1 votes

People dont understand how much power the support has in lane, people ar still stuck in the s3 era of supports buying wards and standing behind their adc getting carried. It's so refreshing when i get matched with a botlane support who knows how to play his role, and knows how to capitilize on his strengths in lane. I thank the gods when i see a Soraka who actually goes up pokes and silences the enemy botlane instead of hiding behind me pretending as if i can 1v2 with only her heals early in lane.

Vlada Cut10/18/2019, 9:12:37 PM1 votes

I play both, and gosh sometimes I just wish if you can play two roles on two accounts at the same time.

Maybe then I'll stop having autofilled 1st time supports when I play adc or have degenerate adcs who don't know what attack move is when I play support.

Neither of the two roles are satisfying to play in Solo Queue because you are gambling to get either a good dedicated support main or just another one of those autofilled newbies, and good adc mains that could also be actual high elos smurfing into low elos(or playing on alt cause their main got banned), or you simply get people who turn auto attack option on in the settings...

Feel free to downvote me for this, but this is why I play Vayne. Legit my primary reason, second is for making Darius for annoyance and Garen mains for metaslaving him now.