A Clarification on Counter Play

redniwediS·7/16/2015, 7:32:32 PM·2 votes·338 views

Lately posters on the Boards have been talking about certain champions lacking counter play. This is nothing new, but whenever a strategy is brought up to assist the poster in beating their chosen champion they deny it as a counter play option.

Counter building and counter picking are both aspects of counter play, right? This has been my understanding of the phrase. It feels like these people are expecting to have some way of snowballing against an opponent that hard counters them.

Regardless of the fact that no hard counter situation is impossible to survive and stall out until you can enter a more favorable stage of the game, someone is not fully understanding what counter play means in regards to League and the direction Riot is taking. Hopefully that someone is not me, but just in case could someone offer some clarification?

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Critmaster Garen7/16/2015, 7:43:36 PM1 votes

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Lately posters on the Boards have been talking about certain champions lacking counter play. This is nothing new, but whenever a strategy is brought up to assist the poster in beating their chosen champion they deny it as a counter play option.

Counter building and counter picking are both aspects of counter play, right? This has been my understanding of the phrase. It feels like these people are expecting to have some way of snowballing against an opponent that hard counters them.

Regardless of the fact that no hard counter situation is impossible to survive and stall out until you can enter a more favorable stage of the game, someone is not fully understanding what counter play means in regards to League and the direction Riot is taking. Hopefully that someone is not me, but just in case could someone offer some clarification?

counter picking is not counterplay. theyre two different things. im not sure if im even a fan of counterpicks existing at all. i guess it cant be avoided with the variety of champions and their kits. but how much does someone deserve to be screwed from the first minute, because he got counterpicked?

an advantage is usually fine, but it shouldnt go as far as having lost a game or lane at the loading screen. there should always be enough room for someone winning over his own counterpick by making a good play.

kallista is such an extreme against low mobility champions. no matter how good youre performing, you probably will never be able to 1v1 a halfway decent kallista as darius or olaf.

and some champions are indeed lacking a clear weakness for the stregths they have. jinx being one example.

the same goes a lot for those melee/range champions who can easily adjust their playstile to whoever theyre facing. jace, nidalee, elise just being a couple examples. they either have their ratios nerfed until they barely have any impact, or theyre ridiculously strong.