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end game bosss·5/28/2015, 9:22:29 AM·3 votes·814 views

ok ill make it short, some champs are overbalanced, end of arguing, they are. riven Darius leona la blanc a.k.a. "im afraid of picking a real champ"

e z fixes that wouldn't make them remotely useless: riven:Riven give her a mana bar! like all the other burst champs! wow. that was hard. making her actually have a remote drawback for missing all her moves. (i dont hate riven or think shes op, but shes overbalanced)

darius:Darius his early game scaleing is so f-ing high that he can ignore all damage.(and dont say he cant we both know he can) his ult is busted because its glitchy. (this happened today)example :he has a hydra. just a hydra, i had 143 armore(53% damage redux) he kills me at 612 hp only landing his ult. that 1224 damage at lvl 12. wow neet! answer: lower his early base hp by 55. and fix his ult"R"!

leona:Leona has retarted cc and can ignore mostly all damage she takes, also can 1v1 almost anything.( yes she can we've all seen it and all done it!) answer: now riot, dont sh-t the bed when i say this, but... nerf her cc. or up her cooldowns. or, even better, give her a drawback if she misses! ( i dont dislike her, but shes practically uncountable ,except in a few matchups .but she will win bot by herself 99.9% of games.(like blitz ,thresh and morg))

la blance:Leblanc ok , befor i start , if your a mid laner your either going to love this or hate this because it is a tad subjetive. this champ is skill based, but if you have the skills, she cant lose, no matter what, end of discussion(example: fakers only lost with her like... 1 or 2 times EVER) and she has no counter unless your challenger rank or shes just afk. she needs to have her kit modified in a way that makes it to where she cant just super flash every 10 secs. and she does that. alot! shes hyper damage hyper moblilty and shes impossible to read unless you no life this game for years.( and dont you do it la blanc mains, dont you say she has hard counters, because i bet you have a large invitory of stories on times you beat them)

her only weakness is viegars ult. this champ is to good, do something about it

i addressed these issues not because i hate these champs.(but there overbalanced kits and stats have cost my teams many games because of there raw numbers) but due to a lack of weaknesses in them they have few answers.and most of the answers to them involve intensive practice and devotion to the point that most players will not have said skills. even then, if the skill levels are even, the overbalanced champ will just steamrole the other laner.

i main support, im not the best player, but what i said here will make salt fly. because there is alot of truth to it. and some people will post longwinded counterstrats.

to the counterstrat posters: 1-2 ways to beat "whoever"champ.... ok you listed 2 ways. theres 2 ways to fight this them in your book. and if your the other 345 ways then you lose. its never going to be ideal in your favor, and if you beef even once on the counter you still lose .

14 Comments

BeatzBoyFTW5/28/2015, 9:34:33 AM2 votes

You must still be really new to the game.

riven:Riven give her a mana bar! like all the other burst champs! wow. that was hard. making her actually have a remote drawback for missing all her moves. (i dont hate riven or think shes op, but shes overbalanced)

She is typically easy to juke off when played right. Not knowing her playstyle could seriously give your laning phase a hard time. Also pretty easy to bully when playing the right champs, eg. Teemo Darius Garen Galio (not joking). Her recent HP regeneration nerfs & slower ult projectile speed really cripples her down. I suggest you try to learn her counters around.

darius:Darius his early game scaleing is so f-ing high that he can ignore all damage.(and dont say he cant we both know he can) his ult is busted because its glitchy. (this happened today)example :he has a hydra. just a hydra, i had 143 armore(53% damage redux) he kills me at 612 hp only landing his ult. that 1224 damage at lvl 12. wow neet! answer: lower his early base hp by 55. and fix his ult"R"!

Darius's ult deals true damage, meaning it totally ignores the enemy's Armor, so its not "glitchy" at all. For a Bronze 2, it's obvious you don't know this......

leona:Leona has retarted cc and can ignore mostly all damage she takes, also can 1v1 almost anything.( yes she can we've all seen it and all done it!) answer: now riot, dont sh-t the bed when i say this, but... nerf her cc. or up her cooldowns. or, even better, give her a drawback if she misses! ( i dont dislike her, but shes practically uncountable ,except in a few matchups .but she will win bot by herself 99.9% of games.(like blitz ,thresh and morg))

Braum can counter her well, just saying. It's best to play cautiously in lane, and not get too close to Leona at all times. Try staying away from Leona's surrounding & cs from minions that were a lil far off, or if it's too hard, get your jungler to get the early kill-gold advantages for you.

la blance:Leblanc ok , befor i start , if your a mid laner your either going to love this or hate this because it is a tad subjetive. this champ is skill based, but if you have the skills, she cant lose, no matter what, end of discussion(example: fakers only lost with her like... 1 or 2 times EVER) and she has no counter unless your challenger rank or shes just afk. she needs to have her kit modified in a way that makes it to where she cant just super flash every 10 secs. and she does that. alot! shes hyper damage hyper moblilty and shes impossible to read unless you no life this game for years.( and dont you do it la blanc mains, dont you say she has hard counters, because i bet you have a large invitory of stories on times you beat them)

her only weakness is viegars ult. this champ is to good, do something about it

Not sure what I'm suppose to comment for this bitch (there, I said it). She is a tough cookie to counter at most situations. As a jungler main, my main objective, even the team's, is to lock her down with multiple CC chains to kill her off. I heard from Riot that they may want to add that 1 second delay to her W, if everything with Zed's seems balanced enough.

Reikken5/28/2015, 10:15:18 AM2 votes

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riven:Riven give her a mana bar! like all the other burst champs! wow. that was hard.

Good idea!

Patch notes:

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  • [Riven] decided that [s]he enjoys the color blue
  • [Riven] now has mana
  • None of h[er] ability costs have changed

( http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=623097 )

Knight SoIaire 5/28/2015, 10:32:27 AM1 votes

i upvoted but there is one thing those cant be nerfs in many cases but tweaks and reworks riven needs a rework or a tweak to put her into one role, either a spammy fighter who does his defense through offense, or an assasin right now she is a tanky bursty assasin without cooldowns (with 40% cdr she can reach like 400 ad easily and can have only like 10 seconds of downtime on that)

so not a nerf but a tweak to sit her down as one but kill as the other

many will say that she is only meele but i alreaady saw a salty riven who removed 2 carries every 5 minutes and they couldnt dodge nor run, she just flashed and comboed her third q with her stun into ult, thats more than enough to blow a carry

she got rekt but just like lb she is flexible to win many matchups she should lose and to outwork her counterplay

darius is a problem because he is all mele unlike riven whos range is of 4 dashes and her ult since he is meeme only and people can easily outrun him he needs to win those fights i wouldnt blame his ballance becuase he is meant to be hard countered by certain champions and he actualy is

in case of leo i just dont agree, i just won a lane vs one too many times

in case of lb this needs to be a rework/tweak that will either make her an assasin or a mage, the same problem with riven, by tapping 2 roles at the same time she can get what is good from both and nothing that is bad about them being an assasin gives her insane burst and outplay potential being a mage gives her good aoe and some cc

end game bosss5/28/2015, 6:03:24 PM1 votes

yep all expected messages were placed.

"if you play it right"= if you were successful anyway. yeah anyone will win under that condition

all posts about the la blanc are indirectly agreeing about what i said.

BeatzBoyFTW : your right for the most part, but dariuses ult did 600 damage with one offence item, somethings wrong here.but teh true damage i didnt know about. also i play bram and i dont have an issue killing leona personally. (and i was silver 2, but thanks to being in elo hell, a constant losing streak from trolls and afk players changed that.)

warpenguin5555/28/2015, 6:10:30 PM1 votes

i personally hate lb too, she probably passed zed on my most annoying to fight list(teemo and trynd are still there), but assuming your team knows how to group and has a decent concept of focus, shes useless late game. Not to mention that shes probably the squishiest champion in the game (idk about ekko yet havent play a game since the patch went out.) Initiate on her and shes toast. Honestly although shes annoying im really not scared of her once midgame roles in

warpenguin5555/28/2015, 6:17:29 PM1 votes

missed the leona thing. she goes in, all in the adc and shes literally useless as shes forced to burn everything when she goes in. for darius kite his ass. the only champion easier to kite then him is singed. i dont have enough of a top lane pool and dont fight riven enough to have something for her but i do know that even if she gets ahead she still drops off late assuming your team isnt retarded and keeps on trying 1v1 her

Truly Prideful5/28/2015, 6:32:20 PM1 votes

I honestly think Riven would be more powerful if she used mana.

Muted Summoner5/28/2015, 6:35:07 PM1 votes

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ok ill make it short, some champs are overbalanced, end of arguing, they are. riven Darius leona la blanc a.k.a. "im afraid of picking a real champ"

e z fixes that wouldn't make them remotely useless: riven:Riven give her a mana bar! like all the other burst champs! wow. that was hard. making her actually have a remote drawback for missing all her moves. (i dont hate riven or think shes op, but shes overbalanced)

darius:Darius his early game scaleing is so f-ing high that he can ignore all damage.(and dont say he cant we both know he can) his ult is busted because its glitchy. (this happened today)example :he has a hydra. just a hydra, i had 143 armore(53% damage redux) he kills me at 612 hp only landing his ult. that 1224 damage at lvl 12. wow neet! answer: lower his early base hp by 55. and fix his ult"R"!

leona:Leona has retarted cc and can ignore mostly all damage she takes, also can 1v1 almost anything.( yes she can we've all seen it and all done it!) answer: now riot, dont sh-t the bed when i say this, but... nerf her cc. or up her cooldowns. or, even better, give her a drawback if she misses! ( i dont dislike her, but shes practically uncountable ,except in a few matchups .but she will win bot by herself 99.9% of games.(like blitz ,thresh and morg))

la blance:Leblanc ok , befor i start , if your a mid laner your either going to love this or hate this because it is a tad subjetive. this champ is skill based, but if you have the skills, she cant lose, no matter what, end of discussion(example: fakers only lost with her like... 1 or 2 times EVER) and she has no counter unless your challenger rank or shes just afk. she needs to have her kit modified in a way that makes it to where she cant just super flash every 10 secs. and she does that. alot! shes hyper damage hyper moblilty and shes impossible to read unless you no life this game for years.( and dont you do it la blanc mains, dont you say she has hard counters, because i bet you have a large invitory of stories on times you beat them)

her only weakness is viegars ult. this champ is to good, do something about it

i addressed these issues not because i hate these champs.(but there overbalanced kits and stats have cost my teams many games because of there raw numbers) but due to a lack of weaknesses in them they have few answers.and most of the answers to them involve intensive practice and devotion to the point that most players will not have said skills. even then, if the skill levels are even, the overbalanced champ will just steamrole the other laner.

i main support, im not the best player, but what i said here will make salt fly. because there is alot of truth to it. and some people will post longwinded counterstrats.

to the counterstrat posters: 1-2 ways to beat "whoever"champ.... ok you listed 2 ways. theres 2 ways to fight this them in your book. and if your the other 345 ways then you lose. its never going to be ideal in your favor, and if you beef even once on the counter you still lose .

Darius does ignore armor with his E, and his R damage is increased with his passive stacks which also deals true damage which ignores any Resistance. Maybe you took to much minion damage. Darius can easily clear the opposing minion wave and if you can't clear his friendly minions, chances are hes gona out-trade you.

Leona just got a E nerf for width. But if she is tanky your gona want to cc the adc as much as possible. if you don't have enough cc the adc will end up procing Leona's passive several times. Thats where this damage is coming from. A Thresh flay helps early game or flashing Leonas ult. If you can poke her down and evade her E early game and or her adc you should not have trouble. Vayne counters Leona also in some way, you can E Leona after she begins moving to you with her E. A skilled Janna will rekt a Leona at all stages of the game if Janna doesn't get ganked. her tornadoes, slows, shield, ult and move speed bonus makes it hard for leona to catch her targets.

Riven You either poke her down wait for her to push a lane and get ganked or you simply Beat her down because you are better. I find Nautilus works well against her and other tanky champions, as long as you don't take free damage. Chogath is another counter for her if you don't waste your mana or take free damage. Riven most of the time wins her lane because she gets to deal free damage to ppl wanting to get cs.

Leblanc requires chain cc and ganks. Basically your jungler doesn't have to secure kills but getting her to waste mana to escape helps but you never want to take free damage. Shes similar to Riven. They go in to deal damage and bolt out fast as they can, abusing their targets trying to get cs. Morgana is great in the sense she can farm..without being near lb by casting W. Playing safe is generally the best way to deal with LB in gold elo and below. In those divisions I doubt you will meet a god lb unless its a Smurf. Just don't take free damage. If she is pushing her lane. If your jungler helps** you** (this means u need to also) ward which they should but more than likely won't happen in gold elo and below. Get a gank from your jungler. The wards are there to prevent counter ganking a lb.

Deep Terror Nami5/28/2015, 9:25:42 AM1 votes

This is coming immediately after two Riven nerfs, and a few hours before a Leona nerf lol. You can count Leblanc nerfed with the mana masteries being swapped to favor Supports (her silence nerf was a long time ago so let's not count that). Zed got that 1 second Ult lockout nerf so I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't looking at the same for LB in some way too.

No idea about Darius. I only see threads about his poor bleed damage.

femmé5/28/2015, 9:26:10 PM1 votes

Darius needs a nerf? DARIUS?

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Jamaree5/28/2015, 10:24:49 AM1 votes

I can't hear anything over how trash you are...sorry.