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Smokin Penguin·3/13/2018, 2:22:25 PM·20 votes·1,335 views

I'm making this post because a lot of people nowadays are complaining more and more and i don't think it's because the game "sucks" now...

What i mean is that a lot of this hate i think is coming from people who i think are influenced by the streamers that they watch and not so much the actual gameplay.

Why would these streamers and former pros say that they are tired, frustrated and bored from playing League?

  • Well a big reason might be because they've been playing this game for a very very long time most of them since season 1 which was almost 8 years ago.
  • And the problem with playing the same game on the same map with the same champions using the same items is that it will eventually make you feel tired of the game no mater who you are.
    • And this hits them the hardest because unlike the average player, League streamers play the game for hours on end starting a new game the moment the last one ends. And i'm not even going to talk about the ex pros because everyone knows how many hours pro players put in the game on and off stream.

Something people who've been playing for a long time don't seem to realize.

  • League will never again make you feel the same way you felt when you first started playing and that's not because they don't want to do that, it's because it's impossible for them to do that.
  • I remember when i first started playing at the end of 2012 i was in the 8th grade had just changed schools and during lunch i heard a couple of classmates talking about this game that's really popular and that it's also free to play so i asked them about it and they told me about it, later that day after coming back from school i looked it up and they were right the game was free to play so i said what the hell might as well try it, so i downloaded it and let me tell you i have never played a game as much as i played League of Legends, every Saturday and Sunday i would would sleep for only 3-4 hours the rest would be spent playing... During the week at school the only thing on my mind would be playing the game after coming back from school and after i made a few friends i started playing with them which made the game 100x times more fun and don't get me wrong the fun lasted for a long while but eventually the excitement and fun started to slowly diminish until today where i play a couple of games before i get bored.

Can League get better

  • Yes of course it can as a matter of fact the game is 100x times better than what it was when it launched.

How do i deal with this boredom, frustration and anger?

  • Take a break, a few weeks a couple of months or even year.
  • I completely skipped season 7 because i was dealing with real life but when i came back i was really looking forward to playing again maybe you should try doing the same, idk.

TL;DR. It's natural for people to get bored of a game, which will eventually lead to frustration and dissatisfaction which both turn into a downwards spiral. League is still a fantastic game with an amazing community, taking a break from the game can be a very healthy thing for someone who has been playing for a long time.

32 Comments

BALDG1VEN BOOMER3/13/2018, 3:24:10 PM9 votes

Most of these former pros are guys that have played and practiced the game almost as if it always a religious lifestyle to them.

Most have have probably played up to 12 hours per day studying and playing the game during their professional careers and most of them had turned into a full time streamer after that streaming a considerable amount everyday.

The earlier seasons of League was probably some of the most glitchiest in terms of bugs you can exploit and some off the charts balance like Evelyn, LeBlanc, AP Yi, AP Tristana, Juggernaut update etc. All of those things sound pretty anti-fun and would make people instantly quit but after eight years why quit now?

Well there’s a list of reason but all these would vary depending on person, but overall this list isn’t something that should be ignored.

One thing that has crept up though is lack of urgency from the balance team and the “Bring back Morello” uptrend, sure you can argue they have been actively engaging with the community but only as of late.

Cyrosi3/13/2018, 2:34:28 PM9 votes

I'm a relatively new player, not even lvl 30, and I really like LoL. I never tried a MOBA before, and I really like it. It's not perfect, but it's a fun way to spend an hour or an afternoon. If people are going to complain about LoL, I'd rather them offer solutions to fix some problem that they see, because again, this game, like all games, isn't perfect.

For example, I think the new player experience could be a lot better, especially in the tutorial area. I'm a big gamer, and play lots of other games. but most other games don't have the same rules or roles as LoL. I'm a support player, but there's no other game in existence where I as a support am expected to not attack the monsters at all until late game, and the game never told me that. Someone had to tell me that in a bot game.

Then there's jungle. Holy crap, jungle. There's no direction at all for what junglers are, or are suppose to do in the tutorial, and there isn't really an equivalent role for a jungler in any other game I've ever played. I had to look up a LoL basics youtube video and some tutorials in the suggestion box to learn about Jungle. That really needs improving. There's not anything in the tutorial that tells you about itemization either. I never knew that items were built from other items, until someone took pity on me in a bot game, sat me down, and had a 10 minute explanation into the basics itemization and beginner's stuff in LoL.

Marshbouy3/13/2018, 3:18:31 PM7 votes

I personally believe that the cause of "all" the streamers hitting burnout at roughly the same time is that they find validation for their dislike in the others that are also no longer enjoying the game.

I think the effect is snowballing, once a few quit because "the game sucks now" then the others call things into question and eventually quit too.

Sasogwa3/13/2018, 2:50:05 PM6 votes

To be honest, the balance team especially Repertoir are doing a huge job right now, but they're still dodging/ putting to later on the problem of freaking botlane being overpowered and overwhelming, which is the main reason why people hate this game right now. And as long as this is the case, the game cannot be healthy especially in high elo.

makkii3/13/2018, 7:19:45 PM5 votes

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I'm making this post because a lot of people nowadays are complaining more and more and i don't think it's because the game "sucks" now...

What i mean is that a lot of this hate i think is coming from people who i think are influenced by the streamers that they watch and not so much the actual gameplay.

Why would these streamers and former pros say that they are tired, frustrated and bored from playing League?

  • Well a big reason might be because they've been playing this game for a very very long time most of them since season 1 which was almost 8 years ago.
  • And the problem with playing the same game on the same map with the same champions using the same items is that it will eventually make you feel tired of the game no mater who you are.
    • And this hits them the hardest because unlike the average player, League streamers play the game for hours on end starting a new game the moment the last one ends. And i'm not even going to talk about the ex pros because everyone knows how many hours pro players put in the game on and off stream.

Something people who've been playing for a long time don't seem to realize.

  • League will never again make you feel the same way you felt when you first started playing and that's not because they don't want to do that, it's because it's impossible for them to do that.
  • I remember when i first started playing at the end of 2012 i was in the 8th grade had just changed schools and during lunch i heard a couple of classmates talking about this game that's really popular and that it's also free to play so i asked them about it and they told me about it, later that day after coming back from school i looked it up and they were right the game was free to play so i said what the hell might as well try it, so i downloaded it and let me tell you i have never played a game as much as i played League of Legends, every Saturday and Sunday i would would sleep for only 3-4 hours the rest would be spent playing... During the week at school the only thing on my mind would be playing the game after coming back from school and after i made a few friends i started playing with them which made the game 100x times more fun and don't get me wrong the fun lasted for a long while but eventually the excitement and fun started to slowly diminish until today where i play a couple of games before i get bored.

Can League get better

  • Yes of course it can as a matter of fact the game is 100x times better than what it was when it launched.

How do i deal with this boredom, frustration and anger?

  • Take a break, a few weeks a couple of months or even year.
  • I completely skipped season 7 because i was dealing with real life but when i came back i was really looking forward to playing again maybe you should try doing the same, idk.

TL;DR. It's natural for people to get bored of a game, which will eventually lead to frustration and dissatisfaction which both turn into a downwards spiral. League is still a fantastic game with an amazing community, taking a break from the game can be a very healthy thing for someone who has been playing for a long time.

Not trying to be rude but I think you are doing a disservice to the people you’re are talking about when you conflate people getting bored/burnt out with the game in general and the their real problem which is frustration at the state of the game, I wouldn’t necessarily call it a straw man, but you are more mind reading them in a sense, and honestly you are blatantly incorrect in your assertion.

Do we still enjoy laning trying to destroy towers with our minions? Yes, killing enemy laners? Yes, skirmishing? Yes, fighting for objectives? Yes, playing our favorite and new champions? Yes. We haven’t gotten bored of these things. We’ve gotten frustrated with things like champ/role balance, game pacing, certain mechanics ie plants etc.

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Sounds like what I got nuked into oblivion for saying in that other thread.

Because apparently suggesting that people that have been playing league for 8+ hours a day 7 years straight might be expected to be burnt out means I'm a "Riot Fanboy" whose just "Dismissing their criticisms".

Whatever.

The reason people get mad at you is because they vent their frustrations with the game and instead of hearing those frustrations and arguing against those points y’all sit here and pretend that you know how these strangers feel better than they know themselves and use it as a cheap way to invalidate what they’re saying

Purgë3/13/2018, 7:03:14 PM5 votes

lol no? the game sucks so hard right now , based on your argument then they would say they hate the game since the s6 or the begining of s 7 but it's just sucks so hard right after the ardent canser meta the game is so bad right now and it's because of the balance accept it all the game is around botlane , the mains of other roles have no impact heck probably even adc mains arnt enjoying the game that much because it's so random and dosnt need skill right now

HalcyonDweller3/13/2018, 6:11:10 PM5 votes

Nah dude, not all frustrated players are burnt out. Lots of people still love the game and want to play it. Them being frustrated with the state of the game isn't just a burnout issue, there are plenty of people who are frustrated for legitimate reasons and not due to burnout.

AMYS GRAVE3/13/2018, 6:44:42 PM4 votes

TL;DR. It's natural for people to get bored of a game, which will eventually lead to frustration and dissatisfaction which both turn into a downwards spiral.

But it is not natural for a mass exodus where this sentiment is spread across as many people as we are seeing. Some people can get brunt out, but this many popular streamers all at the same time? idk man.

LVL99 Helper TK3/13/2018, 7:49:27 PM4 votes

This is fine

Ehm.. no its not

Moxidate3/14/2018, 11:26:18 AM3 votes

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BobaFlautist3/13/2018, 2:54:41 PM3 votes

Sounds like what I got nuked into oblivion for saying in that other thread.

Because apparently suggesting that people that have been playing league for 8+ hours a day 7 years straight might be expected to be burnt out means I'm a "Riot Fanboy" whose just "Dismissing their criticisms".

Whatever.

Mandalorian 1173/13/2018, 5:32:52 PM3 votes

I agree with this. I've been playing this game religiously since the beginning of 2016. Jhin was just released, and I love it. However, I can't imagine this being the only game I play all day long nonstop. I play league alongside Rainbow six, overwatch, fortnite, and recently bloodborne. To me, everything balances out.

Now the current meta isn't the greatest, I do admit. That's what a lot of pros don't like, the fact that one guy can't win the game but one guy can lose the game. My favorite youtuber Bricky said that the 9/1 riven can't carry the game anymore, but the 0/7 lucian might be the main reason why you lost the game. I do agree to an extent, but I do have faith that riot can make it better by the mid season. Just giving my 2 cents.

AirKingNeo3/13/2018, 6:41:38 PM3 votes

Why would these streamers and former pros say that they are tired, frustrated and bored from playing League?

Or maybe they just don't like how the game is right now. That's always a possibility.

Blåbæret3/13/2018, 8:28:51 PM3 votes

TLDR of your post: "People have been playing for so long that they've become bored. The game is good, it isn't shit" - you know the best, amirite? Your post is boderline fallacy.

Lmao, downvoted this shit thread. Moving on now.

Disco Duchess3/13/2018, 4:32:16 PM2 votes

THANK YOU. I took about a year off because I was getting burnt out. Jumped back in about a month ago and fell in love again. Hearing the people think the game "sucks" and is getting "worse" genuinely confuses me because I just don't see it. I was a bit peeved about the changed runes/masteries because I have less control BUT it's fine. We are all in the same boat now. I cant try to "break" champs by making weir crazy masteries + runes lol

I totally agree, take some time off. Go live life, them come back. It's a game people. Enjoy it.

InTheory3/13/2018, 2:30:30 PM2 votes

Nicely written!

T4underbolt3/14/2018, 9:22:38 AM2 votes

They are not bored with the game. People are done with riot turning this game into noob friendly freelo sht fiesta where individual skills mean nothing. You can be god of mid lane but your bot dies 3 times before you even get lvl 6 and opportunity to roam and enemy bot shreds you even if you make outplays simply because you can't dodge auto attacks and usually they are paired with very balanced supports that heals and shields all hp of the ADC. Or tanks that are supposed to scale to late and provide cc, DMG soaking but instead are also auto win in lane and deals more DMG than actual DMG dealers.

Tokogawaruf3/13/2018, 6:45:52 PM2 votes

Finally finding a Post like this among the Pile of Complains reminds me why i even visit the Boards.

Jmman3/13/2018, 7:17:57 PM1 votes

Or maybe all the new thing have made certain champs and roles too strong and Riot will not address these. Instead nerfing not great win rate champs and buff ones with 50% plus ones. Then leaving ones with 53% plus win rate untouched.

What this does is turn the have not which are having a crap time playing the game vs the people they are all of a sudden GOOD at the game solely because the champ they selected. Then you get a feeder on your team and since you main a crap champ there is no hope of comeback.

I have played since season 1. I don't care how many down people give me. They never got to play in the older times. Before the Power creep, before they had to make champs op to sale skins and new champs.

I'm glad the game is working for the banwagoners. But guess what. They will move on too once the power gamers find a new game to explore and play. These streamers are what builds hype for the game. Once a smart company takes advance of Riot not caring about its original base the downfall will be epic.

Sure maybe I secretly want the game to fall a horrible dead because of how they treated my main for 4 to 5 SEASONS. I and many of my friends keep checking for new game to come out. Trust me one will.

Why is it so hard to see a low play low win rate champ and fix him instead of Ryze 6 times a season. its not. Why are they making new champs that have to keep one uping the other? This is all because of the sale to Tencent and money being important instead of a quality game.

https://www.polygon.com/2015/12/16/10326320/riot-games-now-owned-entirely-by-tencent

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-dark-side-of-venture-capital-five-things-startups-need-to-know/

Read points 1 and 2. They are getting their ROI at any cost. This cost comes to game play because that isn't the top objective. (doesn't earn money the game is free) its getting the Return they wanted. And yes LoL is doom to fail because of this and the nature of online games. Do to this possible they want to earn as much as quickly as possible. Please explain to me where balance is a higher priority than ADC skin sales.

Look at the point in time which the game has less balance and worst game play.

Then tell me i'm wrong.

Ifneth3/13/2018, 6:11:08 PM1 votes

I like League, but threads like the ones you’re talking about make me want to leave the forums or at least stick to Story, Art and Sound; Concepts and Creations, and Dev Corner.

It’s toxic, bums me out, and is getting in my head.

Purgë3/13/2018, 7:06:06 PM1 votes

and changing the game so it depends on who u pick and not acutly how skilled u are is not a "change" it's a huge mistake made by the company but appeanlty too lazy/dosnt care about addressing these problems

u think anyone would enjoy leauge in the early season if it was just about picking the meta adc heck evryone would main adc and the game wouldve been boring