Why isn't Zac disabled in pro-play?

Late For Tea·7/23/2017, 8:30:05 PM·40 votes·2,507 views

Zac is probably the most broken champion that has graced the rift in recent times, yet Riot has done very little to change this. His ganking potential is through the roof, and he is very forgiving if you can't land your skillshots. He is practically perma-banned in pro-play, and when he does make it through he has no problem single handedly carrying the team to victory.

I'm genuinely wondering why Riot doesn't disable him in pro play (LCS) until they fix him. Red side is heavily handicapped by the fact they have to ban Zac almost permanently, putting them at a great disadvantage. Disabling him frees up a ban slot, leaving red side with more options, and therefore slightly reduces this disadvantage.

I'm sure Riot is well aware of the massive problem that Zac currently is. Making such a broken champion in the first place, that happens. Fixing him? That will take time, especially as the problems lie in his ability mechanics, and therefore may need a new rework. However disabling him can pretty much be done with the press of a button. If Zac does make it through, he pretty much sucks all the fun out of the game with how strong he is compared to other champions.

What are Riot's thoughts on this matter? Because I never hear them talk about the state of balancing broken champions.

50 Comments

Buffy4327/23/2017, 8:43:58 PM33 votes

Zac was fairly balanced before his changes - Not sure why they don't just do a revert.

TurquoiseYoshi7/23/2017, 9:45:59 PM15 votes

Why wasn't Runeglaive Ezreal banned in pro play

Why wasn't perma-root Ryze banned in pro play

Why wasn't Juggernaut rework Morde (or Skarner pre-hotfix in LPL) banned in pro play

Why wasn't reworked GP banned in pro play

It's not like this has even happened in League history, champions being disabled only happens for bug reasons. There's a reason why bans exist. Also, Meddler has basically said that they're nerfing Zac, among others, and that they're looking at Cinderhulk, which buffed Zac a decent amount. Yes, Zac is too strong, but there's no reason he should be disabled in pros.

Blakiepug7/23/2017, 10:26:35 PM7 votes

But I though Zac rework was supposed to make him healthier for the game... :)))))))

LadyRenly7/23/2017, 9:49:55 PM7 votes

an assassin tank that displaces entire teams and has a boatload of CC, why even bother playing carry junglers when you can carry with Zac?

warpenguin5557/23/2017, 8:52:15 PM6 votes

Obvious salty DIG fan is obvious.

lol jk. I agree, Riot really should have fixed him by now, or at the very least taken him out of his permaban status. The balance team just works so damn slow

i cant move wtf7/23/2017, 9:48:42 PM4 votes

What if Zac was just "disabled"? Like if his legs were crippled in some way and he had 50 base move speed. Makes you think.

Some Noob Dude7/23/2017, 8:53:36 PM3 votes

Also Cho'Gath

nGio7/24/2017, 6:49:09 AM3 votes

As a Zac main, I'd be okay with them giving him back his damage, and reverting his abilities. I really love the new Zac as well, but I'd take the old balanced Zac over whatever Zac might turn into if he continues getting nerfs every patch, until he's unplayable and becomes forgotten. Riot has a history of not admitting when they turned shit upside down for no reason, and the end result will most likely end in disappointment for his mains.

Gone by Night7/24/2017, 8:25:13 AM3 votes

Why did they even rework him? Like wtf?

Kloqdq7/24/2017, 2:05:10 PM3 votes

The rework was a hot mess for Zac. He has just suffered and everyone else on the rift is feeling it. Zac needs to get his Q changed to both ends being a skill shot if they want him to have that ability. His ult should also be reverted because lets be honest, that thing is too powerful and has far to much potential.

Mira Arya Enthe7/23/2017, 10:57:15 PM2 votes

Because tanks can never be strong, useful or viable. Forever victims of the system. All them evil adc's holding them down.

Trestani7/24/2017, 2:10:06 AM2 votes

riot's stupid fucking rework of zac, has completely ruined the champ. He was completely fin as he was, he didnt need a rework. They made him impossible to balance with his new ult. Being able to insec entire teams is dumb. i say we DE-REWORK ZAC

Kinnikuko7/24/2017, 2:08:47 PM2 votes

Why does zac have a SKT skin if he wasn't played before the rework

ChompyWulf7/23/2017, 8:46:34 PM2 votes

Really all that needs done is to revert him to old ult. New one is just too strong of a tool to kidnap people under a tower and get away with almost no damage taken. Rest of his kit is OK.

jama6557/24/2017, 3:21:41 AM1 votes

Why would they disable him? its not a bug or anything if something is stupid strong its up to players to ban i mean look at GP/Mord after rework they were perma banned not disable nothing wrong with the champs besides being OP no reason to disable them

nargnargnarg7/24/2017, 4:39:59 AM1 votes

Dignitas would pay Riot to make that happen

AirKingNeo7/23/2017, 9:30:28 PM1 votes

Any time there's a triple perma-ban redside thing in proplay (Rengar, Leblanc, [REACTED] or Zac, Elise, Caitlyn) you know there's major balance issue. Considering next patch is world's qualifier, I cannot fathom why the balance team refuses to give heavy nerfs to these champions to prevent such favor for blue side.

Shuyin1787/23/2017, 9:47:58 PM1 votes

Are you in the LCS? No? Then you get no voice on what Riot does with the pro scene.

ZT Xperimentor7/23/2017, 10:01:36 PM1 votes

Why isn't leesin disabled? It'd at least increase play & ban diversity.

DarkRitual7/24/2017, 2:54:27 AM1 votes

Things are only disabled in pro play if their bugs are game-breaking, and if they are not Mordecaiser.