Late game Tanks vs DPS and Burst

CoolSpot2·1/23/2015, 8:37:31 AM·4 votes·3,952 views

Late game Example:

a) Full tank Amumu vs Full damage Vayne = Vayne wins with full hp . Amumu had 2 cc but without damage follow up he had no chance .

b) Hybrid Amumu with 3 AP items vs Vayne = Amumu wins . Amumu was not nearly as tanky but much more powerful than Vayne

This Logic right here applies to the teamfight in general .

CC TANK is not nearly as Efficient as someone who can deliver damage and CC. The more people on your team with high damage the more likely you are to win . What happens if your team has CC but no Damage? You loose

Obviously there are many variables in this game but my point is that game favors damage over defense .

You can't argue that Tanks have to absorb damage late game cuz it takes like 5 seconds for them to die . Defense just doesn't scale after 35% pen .

What I am trying to demonstrate is that say defensive champions simply delay their death without really contesting . Buidling full CC tank is like digging your own grave. Most tanky champions can't even get away with Hybid buidls .

The way I see it Tank should be able to counter AD/AP carry and not the other way around which is how it is right now . Late game Ad carries burst fulll tanks in few seconds .

Same logic applies to champions who can get away with full damage builds like Xerath,Rengar,Leblanc and overall regular AD carries late game who counter tanks with 35% pen .

Several reasons for that :

  1. Tanky jungle item is inferior to damage Item .
  2. Tanky items overnefred .
  3. Jungle is tuff on tanky champions .
  4. 35% armor/magic pen is too much .
  5. BORK has been overpowered for a long ass time . One item makes AD carry stronger than Tank whos job it is to stop you .

Take it for what you will . I think Tanks need quality of life update across the board .

7 Comments

Talamare1/23/2015, 9:16:54 AM9 votes

ADC should be able to kill tanks late game, however NOT AS FAST as they currently do

ADC should counter Tanks Tanks should counter Mages Mages should counter ADCs

Drunk Rummate1/23/2015, 3:38:21 PM3 votes

here's a recommendation: don't try 1v1ing with a full tank champion. the purpose of building like that is to stand in a teamfight long enough to get all of your important CC abilities off, and then transition to body blocking for your carries.

FHMarshy1/23/2015, 3:30:07 PM2 votes

Yes vayne can kill a full tank amumu, but how long does it take? enough for other team mates to kill vayne for sure with both cc amumu offers

zliplus1/23/2015, 7:57:30 PM2 votes

Uh, full tank amumu is an anti-tank amumu. Of course you're not going to be beating vayne. Your job is to make the team win by preventing enemy bruisers/tanks/vayne from kill the rest of your team.

BaneQC1/23/2015, 7:06:30 PM1 votes

It has to favor offense vs defence other than that this would be a boring game

agbudar1/24/2015, 12:30:00 AM1 votes

the only tank that can beat a full build 1v1 against an adc is rammus but that means rammus had to build enough armor to hit 400 amor in order to nullify LW and even then its a close call.

aka ninja tabi randiums sunfire thornmail frozen heart warmog's ow lets not forget the enemy has a mage that can melt this guy down faster then ice in a volcano