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Katarina NEEDS some love, some kind of change.

Jordydragneel·12/11/2018, 3:42:41 PM·3 votes·1,010 views

i been playing this game since almost the very beginning, at first this game used to be fun where we could play dominion, 5v5, the runes and masteries wouldnt affect you much if you went ingame with the wrong ones, was weird but it wasnt too complicated for someone to understand the game. i have always been a sucker for mages, and my first couple mages i played was Lux and Ryze , Champions that have received updates yet i feel that their difficulty had remain the same since they came out, which i think is a very good change and update for them. My man topic Katarina, when she came out was a bit weird to play, there wasnt a lot of spinning besides her ultimate, but to me it was fun to play, then she got hit by a rework, when we recived really nice W could spin our blades around us and do some damage before our enemy realized we were there ( kind of how zed works). But holy fuck the last rework just fuck her up, who told riot we wanted her W on the passive???, literally now we go in on a fight and cast preparation+Ultimate and and it takes like 3-5 secs for us to do some kind of damage where enemies can just do a tremendous damage to you plus CC and you will be dead before you realize it. she is designed to be an assassin not to be easily assassinated. My only demand is to please put back her passive into her W, nerf the damage i dont care, and let only one bouncing blade do the job, not two of them. i realize that she can be very strong right now if you know how to position yourself, timing, having a good sense of momentum, plus we have to know our place, she is an assassin not a tank, point taken. But i dont care about non of that i wanna have fun with her and have fun in the game, not have a master degree on positioning myself and speed on my mouse, i got to school for that. This is a dam game, back then when runes and masteries were messy, forgetting to change your runes before the game started didnt really affect us as much. I feel like the game is now playing for us, we are forced to get a rune so when we do one simple cast there goes like 5 different effects that put your health in half,Where is the skill or fun on this???. Like what has this game becomed? everytime i decided to take a break from the game this game changes so much that is unplayable for me and those that are casually playing. Keep the core of the game the same stop changing soo much is becoming soo annoying to have to deal to new changes on so many champions every single time.

And outside of this topic, i think the NEXUS mode is really fun and 20 minutes is perfect, and the mini games really brings alot of the casual community together to have a bit of less stress ingame and actually have and enjoy the game.

I hope someone reads this and understands where im coming from Thankyou

8 Comments

Míellá12/11/2018, 3:58:45 PM2 votes

I'll have to disagree on your point. Old Katarina was just completly toxic. (Also kinda clunky) She was needing a rework in my opinion and I think they nailed hers.

She now has a delay, because she also deals some more dmg than the old one. There's supposed to be a delay, because if there wasn't, she'd be just completly broken. No counter play all.

back then when runes and masteries were messy, forgetting to change your runes before the game started didnt really affect us as much. I feel like the >game is now playing for us, we are forced to get a rune so when we do one simple cast there goes like 5 different effects that put your health in half,Where >is the skill or fun on this???

  1. That is the fun part of her and her skill gap. You need to perfectly position yourself with Kata. She is a fast paced champion on which you need some good reaction time on. If you learn to play around her delay, (which is only ca. 0,5 sec btw), you can easily deal dmg with her. No changes needed on that.
  2. Old runes were messy, and if you forgot to change the page, you were completly fucked. You missed some stats while the enemy didn't and he could just rape your ass.

Katarina now needs some love, yes. But not because of the reasons you said, but because of how weak she is at the moment. She got nerfed so often that it now is a coinflip if you can win the game or not. Her damage isn't high enough get kills, and the fact that you need to buy gunblade to do anything at all with her is just insulting. She isn't flexible at her current state and laning phase is just no fun at all. She will lose 80% of all laning phases, even if you are better than the enemy. You can't win EVER against a champion like Fizz, even if he misses everything, because his base stats and his base dmg is just higher than yours. Kata's scaling isn't the best, but if you manage to get some kills and get gunblade, the sustaine will help you survive. and it will deal enough dmg to kill some squishies that already had low hp.

I honestly think that Kata needs some stat buffs, so that it doesn't feel like shit to go play games with her. Its hard to do the job of assassinating people with Kata right now. It can still work, obviously, but it's just too hard.

Sincerly, http://www.auplod.com/u/uldpaoad971.png

Ugly Alien12/11/2018, 5:32:25 PM2 votes

Like the rest, Katarina has a disadvantage from the start.

  1. The biggest disadvantage is basic csing. She gets bullied in lane and unable to cs properly - has to wait, stay back, usually under turret. While you go through this ordeal you will lose alot of minions. And forget what I say, just watch videos of Kat mains in challenger (ex. Katevolved, Showmaker, Hubblet, etc). They are always behind in cs the first 10-15 minutes. I'm not even exaggerating, they are always behind - like 90% of the time. Low elo blokes like me suffer even more.

Solution: I don't know. Maybe lower the cd of Q so she can use that more to cs or poke so she has some way of keeping up on cs

  1. Her delayed combo is BS. Kat does not have a shield nor cc, she can't even dash anywhere right away cause she has to wait for the damn W dagger to land, until then she takes hits. Just imagine you are laning, you notice the opponent is in a bad spot and you want to poke, you will E, W, and E the hell out. Guess what, by the time W dagger lands the opponent has ample time to spam all their abilities at you. Even poking is risky even if the opponent is in a bad position. There is no other assassin that has delays like this.

Solution 1: E should reset instantly if she goes on the dagger radius. Just look at freaking LeBlanc. Literally, within half a second she can come in land her ability and go back to her initial position and does more damage than Kat. Now imagine Kat. She E's , throws W, wait for it...wait for it....E out.

Solution 2: W cast time has to be faster. She has to E, W, and E out fast. The delay makes her exposed. A competent player will save the cc until you E to them, for example Lux, then she roots and slams all abilities. There is so much you can kite, you will get cc'ed eventually