Junglers, if you ever, once, ever utter the phrase "I need leash, no leash no gank"

jaymc1130·10/4/2016, 11:35:15 PM·16 votes·7,987 views

You have no business jungling ever. Period.

No jungler should NEED a leash first of all, if you can't solo clear half a jg quadrant without any assistance then you have zero clue how to properly manage the camp aggro and micro your way around so you take the least dmg possible. There is not one single champion that cannot do this. Not one.

Secondly, if you refuse to play the game properly after that and avoid a lane just because it didn't leash you when you fail to communicate effectively what you would like your opening 4 minutes to go like as the jg you should be perma'd on the spot for trolling. Period.

Stop acting like little bitches just becasue you fools can't figure out how to play your role properly, just stop playing it at all and do us all a favor.

Troll the games just because you don't know where or how to start in the jg... sheez.

261 Comments

Randomonium10/5/2016, 12:03:51 AM32 votes

There are no words for how absurd this post is. Not giving your jungler a leash results in them being way far behind the other jungler, makes them incredibly susceptible to an invade, and makes them be at a much lower health if they go for a gank after 3 camps.

I honestly don't blame any jungler who avoids your lane if you refuse to leash. Playing jungle is all about maximizing your resources. If a laner isn't willing to provide a leash, which is literally NO cost to the laner, then I wouldn't trust that guy to carry the game. That kind of person is usually so ignorant and toxic that they'll go on tilt over the tiniest things.

LGBTCute10/4/2016, 11:49:01 PM16 votes

K I won't utter that phrase. But I will still think it, and it will still be the truth.

If you're not leashing or at least offering a leash to your jg, then you are telling them you lack basic game knowledge. A decent jg knows it's better to help good players then bad ones. Bad players waste an advantage, good players will use it to win.

You're also displaying a selfish attitude, which tells your jg and entire team that you're not going to be considering them in teamfights and skirmishes. If you aren't considering your jungler's needs, you're probably not going to think about helping them during a gank. So ganking for someone who doesn't care about their team is risky to say the least.

Not to mention, refusing to leash can put some junglers behind in HP, mana, clear time, and make it harder for them to gank.

Bottom line is if you don't leash, you're telling your team that you need to be carried.

OP must be new to this game, probably still below level 30.

The Yetii Rider10/5/2016, 12:33:41 AM7 votes

"first of all, if you can't solo clear half a jg quadrant without any assistance then you have zero clue how to properly manage the camp aggro and micro your way around so you take the least dmg possible"

Uh, yeah. Plenty of people don't have this skill. That's why they get leashed.

Not even 10% of the playerbase is Plat or higher. Saying "git gud or don't jungle" isn't realistic.

Truly not Gay10/5/2016, 1:51:04 AM6 votes

I think you phrased this post extremely poorly. Your main concept of there being no place for a jungler to ever say "no leash, no gank" is good. However, the rest of the post basically calling anyone who can't jungle without a leash total garbage who shouldn't be playing jungle. A person has to learn jungling somehow and there are only a select few champions who can easily jungle without a leash. Most of the other ones you either have to be experienced with both the champion and the jungle roll or you need a leash to not fall behind. While it is possible to solo the jungle with anyone, is it really a good thing to do? If you solo on a champ who struggles early and get invaded you are 100% screwed.

If I am jungling and don't get a leash then don't expect a gank in the early game. This isn't because I'm toxic or a trash player, it is because a gank from me with the champions I typically play will most likely result in me being too low on mana/hp or being 2 levels behind. The only way a gank like that ever works is if the enemy is just asking to be ganked by pushing to the tower without a ward while being low on heath or mana.

Weathered10/5/2016, 12:01:00 AM5 votes

If you honestly think all junglers can do fine without a leash, you haven't played jungle nor have you played the game long enough. If you think clearing a quadrant and backing is jungling, I suggest coaching. If you decide you won't sit there for a few autos, which costs you nothing, then you obviously don't need my help if you don't help me.

A Plat jungle main.

PhDs Nuts10/5/2016, 12:43:12 AM5 votes

I hope you get ganked at level 3 and your jungler is stuck going b to heal instead of countering while it happens.

Meep Man10/5/2016, 1:55:11 PM4 votes

I just say "If you don't leash, don't expect me to be generous with your lane"

specter42410/4/2016, 11:38:25 PM4 votes

a leash is a mutually beneficial thing

it helps the jungler clear faster, less chance of dying to an invade and more hp after the clear.