I have a question about the role of an ADC

MarhsallLee67·10/10/2015, 8:45:25 PM·7 votes·993 views

Is it supposed to feel like the most miserable shit in the world, or is it just me?

ADC and support are the two roles I still have yet to become somewhat decent at, and with the announcement that Sivir is getting the victorious skin this year (which I'll be getting), I figured I'd try practicing ADC some more- specifically Sivir.

Good Lord, I hate it so much.

Granted, I'm not good at it. I'm awful at it, actually. But the difference between ADC and other roles (imo, at least), if I lose to somebody in top or mid or even the jungle, I often feel as though there's still a chance for me to come back and beat my opponent, whether it means mechanically outplaying them or coordinating well with my team. As an ADC, I never feel like I'm really... doing anything. If I somehow manage to get in the lead, I feel like all I really do is just stay behind the rest of my team and right-click. If I fall behind, my right-clicks simply don't do as much damage as the enemy ADC's, and the one thing I do is now utterly useless, and I officially do nothing for the team. And depending on the champion I'm playing against, coughVaynecough it feels like no matter how poorly or how well I perform in lane, at some point they're just straight-up going to be doing more damage than I am.

I never feel like I'm becoming a better player, or at least gaining a better understanding of the role. This is mostly because of the fact that I usually play Team Builder to ensure that I actually get to practice adc, and in Team Builder, I often get matched with and against players ranging from Gold to Diamond. Obviously, ranking is not an accurate measure of skill level, but in this case, I feel like the majority of the players I face are more skilled than I am. Consequently, I lose in such a way that I get completely obliterated, and all I learn from such experiences is that I need to "git gud," without really knowing how to go about doing so...

What am I doing wrong? Is it just the champions I play? (Currently the only ADC's I actually play are Ezreal and Sivir- Ezreal appeals more to me since he's more of a caster rather than just a right-clicker, and so there's some kind of intuition required when I play him.) Do I just need to get better? How do I get better?

...Or is the role of an ADC designed to just be this painful and miserable?

12 Comments

Environmentalist10/10/2015, 8:55:27 PM4 votes

Haha I'm surprised I read all that. I mean, you're obviously going to do slightly worse because you're new to it, but no, ADC is not a miserable role. I love playing ADC, and I find when you're able to synergize well with your support, it's extremely satisfying pulling off some nice 2v2s. You'll get better with practice. Try finding a friend who's comfortable with support that you can practice with. If you want, I can play some norms with you and support you! I main support, and enjoy it, and I also play ADC heavily so I'd be able to give you pointers along the way. Add me in game if you're interested.

Ralanr10/10/2015, 8:56:40 PM1 votes

My take on it (as an unranked scrub) the adc and support have the most pressure on themselves in this meta (and maybe more) due to them needing to carry the game later.

So it's pretty god damn miserable when the enemy team makes it a point to shut you down.

Take the fill role in soloQ, you'll get support or adc roles most of the time. That alone should be enough to indicate how much people dislike playing in bot lane.

Mimy10/10/2015, 9:01:34 PM1 votes

I actually find adc/support to be fun.. xD

I think it really just depends on the person..

Because you're higher elo it might be harder for you to learn the new role due to more experienced players.. but alls you can so... is.. "Play"

..

It's like me (A bronzie) asking my diamond friend (He got diamond this season..) "How do I get good?" . Him: "Play" . Me; "Play?"

The funny thing is.. I understand him.. but I don't understand him.. that that word "Play" has a much larger meaning than what I'm grasping.. >.< but at the same time it's such a simple concept and alls you wanna do is beat your bronzie face in that I'm not improving at all.

I guess just keep playing and practicing..

Sirsir10/10/2015, 9:04:45 PM1 votes

ADC is pretty sucky right now. Thanks to the Juggheads if you don't play perfectly you die. If the enemy picks certain champs coughRiven cough you can't do jack (she managed to 1v2 my bot lane despite being 1/5, balance). Even when doing well certain champs can still 1v1 you. I 1v1d a fairly fed lucian as an underfed K6. That said they are just about the only way to DEAL with the juggheads.

About the'sit back and right click' you should play ADCs with play making potential. Sivir is only that strong in a coordinated team and Ez is fairly weak right now. If you want castery, try Lucian, or maybe Varus. Hell maybe even Corki.

Josheheh10/10/2015, 10:09:05 PM1 votes

I'm like 10x worse at botlane than I am other roles I just hate not being able to, like, DO anything with my abilities. Autoattacking is something I never really liked in any game, since free damage is inherently so much more powerful than abilities. And on support I tend to get those people who play nothing but ashe to level 30 and still suck at it.

A Chaotic Mind10/11/2015, 12:39:41 AM1 votes

Well the ADC role atm is kinda painful and miserable if your team lack the coordination/willingness to peel for you, but you're making it worse by playing Ezreal. Basically the only ways you can win with Ezreal is if:

  1. you manage to abuse a very limited time-wise powerspike in the mid-game after the bad early and before the even worse late-game;
  2. you are a god Ezreal player and manage to snowball out of control (ez is one of the hardest snowballing adc) and close the game before the enemy adc reach 5-6 item

If you want to play a tri-force adc just pick Corki because with Ez you need to snowball the early game with a weak early game adc. btw with pretty much every adc if your the only one fed your fucked, if your behind your useless (unless your adc outscale)

Erockandroll10/11/2015, 12:40:06 AM1 votes

If your going for "being the strongest champion on the field." then yes, the ADC is crap. You for the most part, should have an XP loss compared to an enemy solo laner. And your glass cannon who's only job is to do damage, Which you can only do when your team initiates/peels for you. Otherwise, you dead in seconds.

But this isn't to say that ADC's arn't valued members of the team. They have one job, But people notice when they do that job well.

Only Play Darius10/11/2015, 1:20:15 AM1 votes

Your thoughts on right clicking have always been true, ADC vs ADC it really depends on whoever is more fed and all you can do is stay away from them and its something that will hopefully be fixed in the marksman rework.

With jjuggernauts getting tanky enough to walk through your team while doing enough damage to kill you in one combocombo, ADC is currently a pretty shitty role to play. These days midlaners roam every opportunity they have, dragon changes encourage junglers to spend less time top and more time bot, and toplaners all take teleport and will frequently use to to come not and get your opponent fed, overall botlane is just a giant punching bag and people just go there to get some gold if they can't force a kill in their own lane l.

A Miss Fortune10/11/2015, 2:09:55 AM1 votes

ADCs right now aren't in the best spot, there's a ton of issues with them. Coming from an ADC main I love the role, but it requires a lot of experience to be effective with. If you don't have perfect positioning, perfect building, know the strengths and weaknesses of every single ADC, and know how to work against/with every Support, you're simply ineffective and won't do much. There's so many things you have to know and master to be effective as an ADC, making it EXTREMELY unfriendly to beginners.

I'd probably say that the ADC role overall isn't in the best state because it requires so much knowledge and experience and on top of that ADCs are extremely team since most bruisers and assassins can easily blow them up regardless of how fed they are.

Aych Pii10/11/2015, 7:08:04 AM1 votes

Sorry, but if auto-attacking people to death isn't satisfying to you than you might as well give up. ADC isn't for everybody.