Anyone finding poppy to be underwhelming from a jungling perspective?

Skaarrjj·12/13/2015, 11:51:18 PM·5 votes·766 views

I've only ever played her as a jungler, and her clearing is a little bit better, but her ganks are a lot weaker because she doesn't have the mobility/chase she used to have. Also she's not as tanky, and doesn't do the damage she used to.

I feel like Poppy gave up her tankyness and damage for....nothing. I mean sure I can build full tank but then I get ignored where before I would NEVER be ignored.

Her Passive shield has a SUPER TINY pickup radius and is just annoying in the jungle. But the bigger issue is that trying to utilize the shield in a gank or teamfight just doesn't work, because the shield flies in a random ass direction where getting it would leave you with lower health than if you were to not get it.

I'd like to see her W passive buffed both normal and below 40% hp. She doesn't feel tanky.

8 Comments

MunchCrunchLunch12/14/2015, 1:56:08 AM1 votes

yes she is. she doesn't take that much damage. but her clearance is extremely underwhealming.

Xicashina12/14/2015, 1:59:58 AM1 votes

I agree on the clear speed that Munch mentioned i felt like her ganks were fine and her team fighting feels godly (In that she is the epitome of a perfect frontline (IMO)(Nothing flashy just perfect)) But her clear speed feels somewhat lacking. Im not sure why her clearspeed feels lacking either as theoretically she should clear rather fast, what with her aoe Q but it is. Now that i think about it due to her limited mana the only ability you can really use in clearing is her q that might be why its so slow

The Whamboozler12/14/2015, 8:03:03 AM1 votes

On the contrary, I have been playing a SHIT TON of poppy since her rework and I feel she's very powerful in jungle. Check out my match history.

Her first clear is a little rough, but if you use your passive and stun creeps against walls well she can full clear without ending up too low on health. Her ganks are good IF you can position well. Flanking the enemy is key. Knock them into a wall or towards your team, W, and slam Q on them. They'll HAVE to flash or die. Remember if you don't charge up R it knocks them up instead of away. You can't hurt them while they're airborne, but it lets your cooldowns come back up and I'm pretty sure they still take damage from AoE effects on the ground over the area they're "standing" while they're airborne. A wall stun, Q, R, then W and chase slowing/damaging with Q will ruin most champs.

Once I have Cinderhulk and a Sheen I hit like a train while staying pretty tanky. This midgame time feels like her strongest to me. I've been able to out duel people I had no right dueling this way. Shyvana. Lee Sin. Rengar. Narrow jungle makes for easy stuns into walls and her Q hits HARD. W prevents cheese escapes and you can R them if you get in over your head. R is also very strong in objective fights. I've ulted away an enemy or two as they're doing dragon and my team has dove the rest to net quick kills and secure the objective. It works with baron too. xD

Come late game she falls off in her damage, and while you still can duel some champs decently or threaten a squishy enough to make him back off or die, but her real strength NOW is teamfighting and being a powerful front line. She can peel, she can scare off or block assassin dives, and she can turn fights around easily with one good E or R. She needs her teammates now though, since she can't carry a game herself.... so I hope you got them fed.

Playing a lot of poppy jungle, it feels like she's a good, solid, balanced champ. I like that she isn't super-mechanically complex but that there is a lot of depth to how you use her. Her positioning and choices feel like they matter a LOT. If you're a poor decision maker, she'll feel weak. She isn't really a hard initiator tank, sewing disruption and chaos like Malphite... But she can pick a team apart like a surgeon IF you know where you need to be and what you need to do.

She might be less impressive in high elo where most players don't make dumb choices, but in the mire of Silver I've been having a lot of luck with her... I only seem to fail in those games when my entire team is feeding or refuses to cooperate. Poppy NEEDS teamwork. She can only lone-wolf for a little bit in the mid game when she's strongest.

That said, I'm no pro... just some scrub silver player who loves this champ. My match history in team builder should speak for that. I'm prob gonna take her into ranked soon.

DevlinCrow12/14/2015, 12:39:08 PM1 votes

I've played against a Plat player using Poppy as jungle, he was ok but when I noticed Poppy was ganking it seemed to take her a lot longer to get in and out, which allowed me to counter gank or invade the jungle. Only 1 match but hopefully my view is relevant