So i got demoted yesterday to bronze 1. But i still only win 11 LP per game

Zlothify·4/16/2015, 2:13:01 PM·1 votes·1,136 views

Yea, so i recently got demoted to bronze 1. But i still only win 11 LP when i win a game but when i loose, i loose around 30LP, how am i supposed to be able to go up in ranks if i loose everything i win. Like i have to win 4 in a row to make sure that im not back on route 1 if i loose, why does this happen, and can i do anything about it?

ANYWAY, ive played some games in bronze 1 now and im one win away from promotion so stop hating on my bronze lvl plays soime times:) ty

PS, ive heard that when you go into new elo it changes back to original LP Gains/losses, and thats why i asked

13 Comments

Trash MammaI4/16/2015, 2:24:03 PM1 votes

Win more. CS better. Die less. Get more kills/assist. Raise your MMR. Be a more positive person. etc. etc.

I get 20+ LP per win and lose about 10-15 average

Karlyr4/16/2015, 2:28:38 PM1 votes

If you got demoted to Bronze 1, It means that you have the MMR of a bronze 5. You can't be dropping from a League unless you are 5 divisons lower than where you were.

Sorry to tell you that, but you'll have to win a lot to climb back to Silver 5.

Sailor Mint4/16/2015, 2:29:35 PM1 votes

Getting demoted a tier means your MMR is a full league lower (i.e.: Bronze V). You'll freefall until you reach your expected rank or start winning more than you lose.

You're sitting on a 35% win rate. For your own sake, I'd suggest not playing ranked until you get a better understanding of the game. There's no hard reset between seasons and at this rate, you'll tank your MMR well below Bronze.

Grashnim4/16/2015, 2:42:00 PM1 votes

It's because you're playing at a bronze IV level!

GundayMonday4/16/2015, 2:55:59 PM1 votes

This just happened to me up in Diamond (Went from Diamond V to Plat I, then back to Diamond V). You can get stuck playing with worse and worse people (MMRwise) if you go on a losing streak in one of the V divisions. You need to go on an insane win streak to break out of it. Otherwise you could win 3 lose 1, and continue to fall in mmr. I have no idea why the system is designed this way. Sucks that it's happening to you.

KY5KmUJg9B4/16/2015, 3:03:01 PM1 votes

That's how the system works bud. No matter where you are on the ladder, if you win more than you lose, you will see more LP per win and lose less LP per loss.

In your case you're losing more than you're winning, therefore you are losing more LP for a loss than you gain for a win.

The system is trying to force you into the ELO that you belong in by making it easier to fall than rise, because you are losing more than you win.

Just because you got demoted does not change the fact that you are still losing more than winning, it just means from here on out you will be facing less skilled opponents. If you start beating the people in Bronze I, you will gradually start gaining more LP than you are losing.

ElysMustache4/16/2015, 5:07:54 PM1 votes

The difference in the ratings between two players serves as a predictor of the outcome of a match. Two players with equal ratings who play against each other are expected to score an equal number of wins. A player whose rating is 100 points greater than their opponent's is expected to score 64%; if the difference is 200 points, then the expected score for the stronger player is 76%.

A player's Elo rating is represented by a number which increases or decreases based upon the outcome of games between rated players. After every game, the winning player takes points from the losing one. The difference between the ratings of the winner and loser determines the total number of points gained or lost after a game. In a series of games between a high-rated player and a low-rated player, the high-rated player is expected to score more wins. If the high-rated player wins, then only a few rating points will be taken from the low-rated player. However, if the lower rated player scores an upset win, many rating points will be transferred. The lower rated player will also gain a few points from the higher rated player in the event of a draw. This means that this rating system is self-correcting. A player whose rating is too low should, in the long run, do better than the rating system predicts, and thus gain rating points until the rating reflects their true playing strength.

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