So I am currently Bronze 1, last ranked game I laned against a gold 4.
How is it fair that I am visibly bronze but have to try and win against golds players? Riot is literally making me look like a bronze player but is placing me against players way higher than my current rank. WTF
they could be on a huge loss streak making them low silver
Here is a better one. I did some flex with some buds of mine.
One bud of mine like myself had zero flex games played.
We spammed a bunch of games that day and got placed. I was played in Iron 2... and he was placed in bronze 2.... even though we played all placement games together, lol.
I can explain.
The key point is: you have a Rank and an MMR that are not entirely linked together, and matchmaking only look at your MMR to decide who goes in your game. THEN, the system look at BOTH your Rank and your MMR to decide how many LP you win or lose.
The matchmaking goal is ALWAYS to give you fair matches. Always. It tries to make two teams that are as good as each other. (Sometimes it just fails, there are some errors, but then it's a mistake in the execution, not in the design. The design is that each team always has a fair chance to win, and that's a good design.) So if you are matched against a Gold player, that's a good sign, it means the match-making system thinks you are as good as that Gold player (or the average of that Gold player and their premade).
The problem with that approach is, if the system thinks you are as good as a high-Silver/Gold, but you are still in Bronze, it's frustrating. You know you deserve Silver or even Gold, but you don't have that Rank displayed on your profile, and it's unfair. True. And that's why there is the second part, the part about how many LP you win or lose. If the system thinks you're high-Silver but you're officially Bronze 1, you will earn a shit-ton of LP for each Victory, and lose very few LP for each Defeat. Typically, +26-30 LP / -15-17 LP. So even with a 50% winrate, you will get (+28) + (-16) = +12 LP for 2 games. And you will climb, and you will get out of Bronze eventually. Even by being matched against Gold.
And what about Promo Series? Well, that's why you have free wins. For same-tiers series (Bronze3 to Bronze2), you have 1 free win for a Bo3, so you need to win 1 of 2 games, that's still 50%. For a series to the next tiers (Bronze1 to Silver4), you can have up to 2 free win for a Bo5, so you need to win 1 of 3 games, that's 33%, so it's even easier.
tl;dr: being matched against Gold is a good sign, and the system is fair. Just keep playing and you will climb.
I am silver 1, granted my mmr is probably a bit higher. But I am constantly fighting plats and sometimes diamonds. Regardless of how SUPER DUPER AMAZING the game must think I am it is gotten beyond old. All I can say is i'm extremely happy I never game them a single cent. Clearly they don't care about anything but the money.
Fighting golds doesent bother me because at least thats closeish, Considering a plat 2 person is in the top 4% of all players~ anything above that and your basicaly asking a kid in tee ball to go up against a college pitcher. Maybe im in machine pitch not tee ball but the point stands.
Your MMR is higher than your rank, so you get placed against gold level players. It takes your rank some time to adjust to your MMR.
This is the primary issue with an ELO system. It queue's you versus an invisibly number where the only thing you can see is your and your opponent's actual rank. The fix, though with its own issues, is to queue players against their visible rank and make adjustments based on that.
Similar thing happening to me. My Flex is S1, but I'm getting put in games where there's a diamond player on the enemy team disturbingly often. I'm guessing this will stop happening when the season starts?
Either the system is seeing that you are playing well above the rank you are currently at. Or that person who you were against shouldnt be at that current rank and is testing them to see if they should continue to be in that rank or not!
i hope they keep this and refine it to kill smurfs
Look at this thread...lot of great info there:
And this is the followup (got gold with plat 2 MMR) :
Honestly dont know why they dont just have people play against people within their rank and the mmr just determines how much lp you get rather than it determining who you're going to fight also
It's because they fked up the MMR system (they said it in on reddit post if i recall) with the two new divisions this preseason so i think it will get fairer the next season, but this shouldn't had happen, riot is just bad at planning this kind of things i guess.
It's the preseason. They're doing major ranked changes. They said, weeks ago, that the matchmaking will be fucked up during the preseason because of this.
IT SUCKS!
