2 top vs Jungler awareness

Roamcel·9/27/2015, 12:19:11 PM·1 votes·719 views

From the top of my mind, i can easily say that I've won 50% more games when my team had no jungler, than when it had. Basically, empirically, 2 top vs 1 top is ridiculously better. Of course the rare occasions the other team has no jungler also, game is more balanced.

The point is not simply that 90% of junglers are just incompetent, clueless players who think they know shit just because they can kill a neutral monster, the problem is simply that 2 top can literally rip apart enemy 1 top, even under turret, when you know to play your champions.

Not to talk about the ridiculous flaw in the obvious counterargument to 'turret hugging': turret hugging is an idiocy, since the turret is 10 times better than the player, at last hit and farming. Not to talk about the risk of getting ganked while turret hugging, when the enemy has two top.

So basically, why is there so much focus on jungling as meta, when it's obvious that the jungler is a liability? Math-at-hand, first wave is roughly 330 gold without jungler, and 400+ with jungler, but what wiki doesn't take into account is that the -TURRET- will chew away an important chunk of those 400+, not to talk about the obvious ganks against the solo top, which is basically non existant when there's 2 top.

So, stop jungling. Or learn how to fucking do it properly.

5 Comments

pripustas9/27/2015, 12:54:31 PM3 votes

Enemy picks Irelia and just farms under turret. If you dive her, she takes at least 1 of you with her. Mid/Bot suffers because now they're 1x2/2x3 You're lvl 24. You haven't seen people who can cs decently and stay in lane 1x2 yet. Once you get more experienced opponents you'll change your mind. Now you get mostly bad teammates and enemies.

Headmans Pride9/27/2015, 12:29:25 PM1 votes

or now your opponent knows how to last hit and gets more gold than you and your partner within 5 waves and your 2v1 no longer matters.

Ionian9/27/2015, 12:37:48 PM1 votes

{quoted}

Basically, empirically, 2 top vs 1 top is ridiculously better.

Yeah that's why every competitive LoL game since season 2 always had 1 top and a jungler xdddd

Mecha MaIphite9/27/2015, 12:54:04 PM1 votes

One of you will have to take smite, or you will get almost no dragons or barons. Your mid and bot will also be behind because they get ganked. You will get out levelled and when the jungler comes, you will lose the 2v2 because you didn't get solo exp. Their top will just start flask and sustain any damage you do to him while he farms under tower.

I have never lost a 1v2 in top after I hit 30, because no offence, but the people who use that strategy are either messing around with troll picks or just aren't experienced enough to understand the importance of jungling.