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Dear Rheeeee-to, about the support tops

Linna Excel·2/3/2020, 9:42:35 PM·1 votes·943 views

So once again we are in a situation where a support goes out of lane and once again people start item 3070 item 3070 because the meta just shifted on them. First of all, meta shift happens so they need to adapt instead of crying about it. Second of all this is all really riot's fault for never doing due diligence during the process of creation and reworking of champs.

This isn't the first time a support has left lane. Soraka got a major rework expressly because she left lane. So I'm going to call BS on riot. You guys know it's possible for people to take champs into different lanes than intended. Vi was supposed to be a top laner. Leona was designed as a top back in the day. Quinn was supposed to be an ADC. Ryze was supposed to be a mid. Every support mage started off as a mid-laner.

This happened expressly because you guys fail to test supports out of role just about every time you make one except for senna. For years you guys have been lazy about this and it needs to stop. Pyke mid was an issue specifically because right after release, you guys had no idea he might have gone mid and caused more issues than he already was going to.

I really think it's time whoever is in charge of the champ team needs to sit down and before sending anything to the PBE that the testers need to spend 1-2 playing a new champ or major rework in every lane and role while trying their best to find an out of lane strategy for the champ.

DrMundo: baht seaporrts wher neavher ment 2 leef lain. Ima doktur with tuu hondrad yirs of xspeerinc en gaim deezin. AurelionSol: Shut up boomer. Every dullard knows about murphy's law, thus since it is possible for someone to pick a non-meta champ in any role, for the sake of assuring quality, by whatever overly feeble standards you have, you rigorously test it out before releasing it to the public. As a service provider, you have that basic responsibility as part of the social contract with your customers. Haven't you ever heard the phrase that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?

2 Comments

Chembaron Yamada2/3/2020, 11:10:20 PM2 votes

Even if people are playtesting something, stuff like this can still happen.

Look at new champion releases, for example. These are definitely getting tested before they are shipping them on the live server, yet it still oftenly happens that they don't land in a balanced state. Because having some playtesters trying out stuff is not enough of a sample size to really measure strength here.

They could have tested Soraka top and still come to the conclusion that it is fine, since their playtesters didn't experience cases of her becoming overbearing. But when she ships in that state, suddenly the sample size gets much larger and you get a way clearer picture of the actual state of the champion.

And this is, honestly, fine. This is how you have to approach things, let someone playtest something doesn't give you an idea of the actual strength of it. It just gives a vague idea, as long as nothing happens in the playtest that proves that the concept is broken to begin with.

You just have to follow up with changes then if something turns out problematic once you have the actual data to prove that. And this is what Riot is going to do. The data has shown that Soraka is currently problematic in top lane, so they are going to fix that.

vgamedude2/3/2020, 10:05:47 PM1 votes

I agree meta shifts need to happen so lets stop having every single game be duo bot marksmen carry