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Are ADC's really broken?

BeNiceToOthers·5/10/2018, 1:07:21 AM·8 votes·3,800 views

For the past season, everyone has been complaining about the state of ADC's and botlane. When you really think about it though, it all started when supports got new and improved items like ardent censor, redemption, locket, etc. For the first time in a long time, assassins can't just ignore the support. They are real champions again, but that also means when bot lane is ahead, it is much harder to come back because you can't just jump in and kill the adc anymore. That means that it's much more devastating when your bot lane is behind. It doesn't help that because bot lane's tower has no defenses and the fact that there are 2 people in lane to kill, bot lane is the prime spot to gank for mid laners and jungles. It also doesn't help that because there are 2 people in botlane, there are more kills to give, thus a bigger lead. Because the crit build is so cheap and efficient, that lead is felt all throughout the map. In the end, what we have is a lane that is a coinflip. Who camped bot harder? Who got their adc more fed, and inversely got the other adc behind. If we can extend the laning phase, thus lessening the impact of first tower leads, the difference in gold between adc's lessen.

An idea I have is to boost bot lane's tower defences. Anyone who has played bot before knows you can't back when the enemy adc is in lane. This is because if you're forced to back, you can expect to have your tower be reduced to 30-40% when you come back. The snowball of not only having a cs lead, but also first tower gold makes the difference in gold between adc's too drastic too quickly.

19 Comments

Krytoric5/10/2018, 11:54:34 AM5 votes

Nah they're not broken at all, the boards just need something to complain about.

Tanks are unkillable and one shotting Juggernauts are just point and click deleting Mages use 1-2 abilities and the ADC is dead Assassins can kill an ADC and get out before they have time to react Any jungler can come into bot lane a level up and win the 2v3 and end the lane right there Hell even supports like Leona can pretty much solo kill the ADC at level 2.

But god forbid the ADC kills someone in double the time it takes everyone else lol.

EDIT: Seriously, has anyone ever actually seen anyone in game complain about ADC? Even now, people still meme about how bad it feels to play, and how underwhelming it is in game lol. Only the boards ever complain about them.

Athenes Lulu5/10/2018, 5:11:25 AM4 votes

Not really, Boards just like to overreact when supports are also part of the issue.

Namely enchanters and items designated to help them. A lone ADC is a free kill unless you are super behind AND he is fed.

I remember towers used to have fortification where they gain bonus armor when there are no minions nearby. Kinda strange on how it doesn't work when no allied champions are nearby, but a little buff like that would help.

saltran5/10/2018, 7:52:42 AM3 votes

I would say that is more a case of Botlane as a whole being too strong, mostly in higher elos where the winning botlane starts to roam with their teammates understanding what they are doing and take objetives around all the map.

Saying that just "adcs are brouken" is a vague and unaccurate way of indentifying the current meta. And in lower elos it doesn't even happen and yet they are the ones that cry the most about it.

Pika Fox5/10/2018, 4:39:08 AM2 votes

Supports are actually far more balanced now than they were when the role wasnt a real role. Think about it; How OP did a champion have to be in order to be put in a 0 gold role buying only wards and maybe boots and still be useful? Even with all these new toys, this still comes off of the numerous sona and janna hard nerfs back when supports had legitimately 0 gold income options and 0 support based items.

BeNiceToOthers5/10/2018, 1:18:25 AM2 votes

To elaborate on the significance of an early lead. Compare 1400 gold to 2000 gold. Even though it is only 600 gold apart, that is 30% more gold. Compare that to let's say 6000 gold and 6600, that is only 10% more even though it's the same 600 gold apart. The difference in 600 gold 15 minutes in is so significant because you rush Crit so much faster.The the laning phase being so short means these leads mean so much more.

PeachsProperty5/10/2018, 1:41:25 AM2 votes

even before i took a 2yr break towers melting to adc (especially trist) were an issue and even after the turret buffs they were still only saved for an extra min or 2.

if you boosted bot lanes turrets, then ppl would just swap top and bot so top would be the saem as bot is now.

only way to "equalize" it would be giving turrets a ranged dmg reduction so it effects all lanes so they couldnt get around it.

and that itself would make ppl mad i assume.

Colton1475/10/2018, 4:35:42 AM2 votes

Weakest ADCs: Jinx Caitlyn Kaisa Ashe Sivir Kalista KogMaw

ChristmasTime5/10/2018, 4:30:04 AM1 votes

ADC's power is fine, but I agree with your point about supports, they have to many tools to protect now and earn too much gold. ADC's role is to take towers, so I think its fine that they do that, their other role is to out put damage, so they should be able to do that as well, I much prefer AD's hurting 20 min into a game than when AD's would be near full build and doing next to no dmg to tanks. Also, Ad's are pretty team reliant, like you have to be with your team and most dont have play making potential. Lastly, I do think increasing the bot tower resist would be fine for solo q but it will never happen because, the lane swap meta would re-emerge in pro play which apparently the public didn't like watching. (I however, prefered watching this, because there was much more thought in the game, and now everyone is too safe.... but everyone is probably too safe because the jg respawn timers are F'd up right now, so they are almost always a threat to be ganking you or sitting in fog of war when they used to actually do their jg to keep up in levels with the other jungler.

d4rkshock5/10/2018, 2:27:19 AM1 votes

It's because this meme is back.item 3504. The casters wouldn't shut up about it on worlds. They nerfed it and now it's back. The problem is shields. As a Talon main, I hate shields because I can't oneshot them and then they have heal and then I'm fucked. They needan item designed to destroy shields. They have it on Irelia but if it's a problem, why not make an item to fix it but nerf Irelia jsyt so it's not a Zed original item 3147 problem when it was essentially a zed ult.

remakoro5/10/2018, 1:56:51 AM1 votes

item 3504 NEW...

You know it was actually giving heal for AA before? Fucking item 3190 got absolutely obliterated since season 6. They changed it first (not gonna say buffed it cuz they removed that sweet MR aura) And then they just kept nerfing it. Unless you build a A SHITLOAD of HP you gonna get shield for less amount than before they turned it into decaying shield. Dont know dude. ADCs still kicking even after they went all out with nerfs on support items. Only redemption remains crazy but damn it has 120s CD.

For the first time in a long time, assassins can't just ignore the support. They are real champions again, but that also means when bot lane is ahead, it is much harder to come back because you can't just jump in and kill the adc anymore.

You mean enchanters right? You DO mean enchanters dont you? Cuz tanky supports could shine really well before and were dealing with assassins pretty damn well. But its hard to play them right now and quite likely things gonna get even worse for them. So prepare to see even more enchanters. You could also take APC as support and carry from that slot with raw dmg and some utility. Kinda risky right now with all those assassins roaming around though. So i really dont know what you are talking about. And enchanters never really suffered as well. They keep getting nerfs to their kits. Remember what happened to Sona, Karma, Soraka.

Stop shifting the blame. People playing 2-3 same fucking disengage supports that can give steroids and shields to ADC all this season for a good reason.

Shablagoo5/10/2018, 2:54:23 PM1 votes

As more and more adc's got nerfed and more classes got buffed it became apparent the supports are the real op class as of now. Now that being said, it does not mean that adc's dmg and item cost did not need to be nerfed. Adc's overall are literally to much, tank busters along with deleting squishies in two shots really needs a tone down.