Define: Toxic

GhostInTheShell·12/23/2015, 11:10:41 PM·2 votes·1,191 views

Currently means "Champion I do not like" and is most frequently used to describe high mobility champions with outplay potential. Can we establish an actual definition for toxic so that the word is meaningful and not just some infantile snarl word?

Preferably someone from Riot should set this definition, since they're the ones that came up with it and it's not used outside of the LoL community.

8 Comments

Rhyvinn12/23/2015, 11:20:53 PM3 votes

The word "toxic" is usually used to describe the summoner and their actions; not the champion they are playing.

(From a previous post): ..."it used for a quite large amount of behaviors such as flaming, blaming and trolling.

The actions of a certain individual which actively or passively decrease the team moral and performance are considered toxic. A toxic person is also able to bring up negative behavior in other/neutral people. A toxic environment results in less team-play and usually lost late-game as people distrust each other.

So basically toxic describes all possible offenses in one word."

Edit: Lyte, from Riot, said this in a 2013 post (http://www.reignofgaming.net/redtracker/topic/94110-who-invented-the-word-toxic)

"The reason we use the word 'toxic' is very intentional.

In our observations and research on player behavior, we find that a single source of negative behavior can ripple through hundreds or thousands of games. For example, let's say we have a game with 10 players--9 are positive, and 1 is negative. The 1 negative player is racist, rages all game, and intentionally leaves the game. This experience can negatively influence some of the other 9 positive players in the game. Some of these 9 players will play another game of League of Legends and instead of being positive, they might start the game neutral or negative. Their actions can then influence 9 other players in the game, and toxicity spreads.

A single negative action could result in thousands of games with negative incidences--this is why many of our latest experiments focus on shielding players from toxicity (Restricted Chat Mode -- forcing players to make a decision between using limited chat resources for cooperative communication, or still using it for negative purposes and being message capped), or stemming the spread of toxicity (our next experiment)."

Obungo 12/23/2015, 11:15:58 PM1 votes

I get reported for offensive language when I said "Wheres the balance?" after getting one shot by a full tank Dr. Mundo. Aside from gg, gj, and nice, that was literally the only sentence I said that whole game in all chat. I was in a group of 5 friends.

I got 25 game mute.

Ralanr12/23/2015, 11:17:15 PM1 votes

I believe Riot defines toxic as bad for the game as a whole. Offering little to no counterplay despite how powerful it is.

Kat and Yi have counterplay that takes the form of Hard CC. Old Poppy had an ult that made her immune to all but one person on the enemy team, then she went and bashed all of their skulls in while her original target can only watch in despair because they can't stop her (because they're most likely a support) and the enemy team can't stop or work around it.

Gigahappytown12/24/2015, 12:13:56 AM1 votes

Toxic means 2 things

negative player

and unhealthy design

unhealthy meaning things like old poppys ultimate and and old talon e

GhostInTheShell12/24/2015, 3:18:37 AM1 votes

Still waiting on a meaningful definition for toxic in a context where it is used to describe a champion and not players. The (original) meaning of toxic, which was used to describe negative player behavior is nonsense in the context of describing a champion.

If it just means that a champion is overpowered than it is much simpler and concise to say "OP" instead of "toxic" like every other gaming community does.