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So how ban crazy is the game?

9999999999 HP··1 votes·511 views

I was in the beta for LoL, but I stopped playing as soon as the beta ended as there wasn't enough content and I had no champs. I got convinced to play it again later on. I did 24/7 ranked and eventually got reported/banned for telling teammates how to play the game and hurt their feelings. So I am back to see how the game changed after 3 years when someone told me that the Tribunal is gone. Is the game still report & ban crazy where people rage at you and spam reports?

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aZ3R0n2 votes

Yes, the player community is still highly immature, toxic, and self-centered. Yes, a noticeable amount of players will rage in chat, afk, feed intentionally, and go on and on in /all chat with "REPORT MY TEAMMATE!!" like it really matters.

Riot did away with the Tribunal and now has the Instant Feedback System, which is a mostly automated report script that learns from itself and the community over time. When the IFS was new, toxicity was absolutely out of control and rampant, but now it seems to be getting much better at picking up toxic chat and behaviors. The best part about the IFS is that it judges without bias, so 99.9% of the people that get punished truly deserve it. Sometimes it does make rare mistakes, usually when someone gets punished for feeding even though they just had a really really bad game, but that's what manual reviews are for.

Riot has beefed up their policy on what is and is not toxic, so now people who use the N word or other racial slurs, homophobic or sexist slurs, and encouraging others to kill themselves (kys, get cancer, etc.) pretty much get a 14 day suspension with only one or two offenses. Also, crying out for reports on players is considered toxic (Report Calling), and stupidly unnecessary shit like "ggez" or calling people bronze or bronzies can be reported.

So yeah, Riot is at least trying to get on the right track as far as player reform goes. The negative side of the IFS is that it does not understand context or sarcasm so you have to be careful with saying things that can be perceived as toxic even if you didn't mean it that way. For example, if you're playing with a 5 man premade and you're telling your friend in chat who's carrying that they're trash and the worst insert champion name here in NA and someone on the enemy team reports you out of spite because you whooped their ass so hard, the IFS might look at that chat and determine you were toxic even though it was all just sarcastic humor with a friend.

Also, a lot of people get punished for retaliation, such as when someone is being toxic or trolling and they say something to defend themselves. The toxic troll reports the person who retaliated, and then they both get flagged by the IFS. So now the only thing to do is ignore the morons, mute them, mute their pings (THANK YOU RITO!!), and report them after the match. Action will be taken against a person'a account with as few as three reported matches, less if they are guilty of bigger infractions.

Anyway... tl;dr the League community is slowly improving, just mute and report.

9999999999 HP2 votes

stupidly unnecessary shit like "ggez" or calling people bronze or bronzies can be reported.

Is this a job or a game? Are people this thin skinned?

aZ3R0n2 votes

The problem isn't that people are "thin skinned" but rather that people say these things with the direct intent of causing frustration in a game that is already a high tension and stressful environment. Common courtesy and mutual respect go a long way, and Riot's new honor system is trying to promote better sportsmanlike conduct.

9999999999 HP1 votes

Isn't there a mute feature for this reason? To be honest, if I didn't put any money into this game I wouldn't care, but it isn't right that a business will fraud me out of money because someone thin skinned complained. If I knew the game was going to be this bad with getting your account banned and your IP stolen from you, I would never have put any money into this game.

Pierce The Veal2 votes

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Isn't there a mute feature for this reason? To be honest, if I didn't put any money into this game I wouldn't care, but it isn't right that a business will fraud me out of money because someone thin skinned complained.

You don't own your account. You agreed to play by their rules. Basically, you subjected yourself to their law while playing the game. The law isn't necessarily fair. It's not fraud.

The only person here that frauded themslves out of their money would have to be you, if it came down to it. On some cases I agree with you, people are too thin skinned and should just mute, but there are indeed cases where banning of toxicity is necessary. Then again, I don't really see how stuff like "ggez" actually positively contribute to the game. Actually, I'm even frustrated that they added a mastery emote to the game. It's literally only used to bm.

9999999999 HP2 votes

Because banter is fun when people know it's only banter.

I didn't know that Riot can perma-ban people when I bought their fraudulent RP. Sure it's IP where it can disappear from lawsuits or whatever. But having it forcefully taken from you permanently by reports is pretty lame. I don't know how people can defend that.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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Because banter is fun when people know it's only banter.

I didn't know that Riot can perma-ban people when I bought their fraudulent RP. Sure it's IP where it can disappear from lawsuits or whatever. But having it forcefully taken from you permanently by reports is pretty lame. I don't know how people can defend that.

The reason they can defend it is because you expressly signed a waiver that said Riot can do whatever they want with your account. You only crime is, being stupid enough to sign it and play, I guess? No offense intended, but that's what it comes down to when you play video games nowadays. Sign a tos and you're signing away your rights to your account. Don't sign one and you don't get to play.

9999999999 HP2 votes

Every other game hasn't held me at gunpoint with my IP with guidelines as punishing and strict as this. Only if hacks are involved then yes, but otherwise it was never this bad. But yes, it was stupid of me to spend money on LoL...

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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Every other game hasn't held me at gunpoint with my IP with guidelines as punishing and strict as this. Only if hacks are involved then yes, but otherwise it was never this bad. But yes, it was stupid of me to spend money on LoL...

Yep

aZ3R0n1 votes

The vast majority of sportsmanlike players disagree with this argument. A mute button is not a free pass to be negative, just like the newly added mute ping feature is not a free pass to rudely spam pings on your teammates. Everyone is accountable for their own actions, and whether someone is negatively affected or not they are still within their rights to report negative behavior.

Personally, I report all instances of negativity and toxicity, my team or the enemy, whether I am the target or not. I simply don't want those kind of people running rampant in the player community of the game I love most.

9999999999 HP1 votes

I personally find the negativity part of the social aspect of the game. I just enjoy it as part of the game and laugh.

aZ3R0n1 votes

There are ways to do it... Like saying "Nice ult Ashe" when she misses her arrow and other sarcastic stuff that an automated system won't catch.

9999999999 HP1 votes

I think people get more upset realizing if they bantered back, they would most likely get reported. So, they have to hold their anger inside and bottle it up, then afterwards report.

Phyuq Yiu1 votes

I have like $250 invested in this account so.. that is a good reason to not be overly toxic. It would suck to have to start all over. On my secondary account I'm a bit more verbal but still I had to get that account to lv 30 and stuff, thats a lot of progress to waste just because you dont like a guy on the internet.

Rewt2 votes

You have to be REALLY toxic to get banned. And "telling them how to play" was probably spaced out with demeaning terms and trying to just shit on the person who was doing poorly. You would never get banned for saying "hug your tower" Now if you say "Hug your tower you fucking autistic ape" then yea. Probably.

Source: Took part in around 200 tribunal cases.

Zone of Endless1 votes

Yes.

Phyuq Yiu1 votes

Don't be toxic af often. You can get away with a lot. I can't imagine how garbage of a person gets banned lmao

9999999999 HP1 votes

le toxic memes What happened to sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me?

Phyuq Yiu1 votes

yea, mute is a thing too, some people are more interest in defending their ego (chatting w/ the dude they dont like) than playing the game. When 2 people start arguing back and forth they may as well be in love, get a room, add eachother on facebook or something.

I personally report people that trigger me or my allies. Example, top is feeding, mid is not but my mid is flaming my top laner. Report the mid laner because he is trash, trying to provoke another alli into a text-off.

If 2 people get entangled in the text-off then fuck it report em both, especially if we were doing well or even had a chance, they're garbage no matter how skilled or knowledgeable.

I flame people a little but I focus on the game mostly. So I havent had a warning in about 2 years.

If yer looking to play the game, have at it. If you wanna be Tyler1 well, have at it for a bit but good luck unlocking much and keeping it.

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