The Current State of Lethality

God King Codi ·12/16/2016, 10:40:41 AM·2 votes·997 views

Im just gonna dive right into it, i was considering running a rune page with lethality marks and quints on lee sin jungle, once my friend heard this he said dont its ass and when i asked him why he said its cause he heard a streamer say it, i've tried looking around reddit for posts regarding lethality but i havent found anything, could someone please explain why? and if your wondering why im trying to run a lethality page on lee its because when i usually play lee i go for that sexy 5 man kick so i like to do the most damage possible

12 Comments

SoundChaosDebug12/16/2016, 10:43:24 AM3 votes

Lethality replaced armor pen, they changed it up so it does less damage early game and slightly more / same damage late game.

It's pretty much a nerf to early game pressure and then it normalizes mid to late game.

Big Lincoln12/16/2016, 10:44:15 AM1 votes

it's ass, the stat itself is complete and utter ass

lethality only gives you about 40% of the armor pen up front, and it only breaks even at level 12. it's pretty awful for actually securing any sort of lead. flat AD is much better early on, especially for Lee Sin who you pick for early game winning

Spoofghoul12/16/2016, 10:48:12 AM1 votes

The only reason why it's ass on lee is because lee has one of the strongest earlygame's

so complimenting that with an earlygame runepage seems logical Lehtality also doesn't help at all in jungle clearing so just flat ad is better

i wouldn't go as far as to say that lethality is ass on lee though since it still scales well into lategame

Altonius Amakiir12/16/2016, 10:51:48 AM1 votes

It seems to be a stigma. 1 point of lethality does less armor shredding than 1 point of flat armor pen used to do. However Riot added more of it to items and runes. If you didn't know, lethality scales with the enemy's level, the way Riot set it up, lethality is weaker than flat armor pen was until level 8. After level 8 it is better, but before 8, it is slightly weaker. I think people just don't like it because of how they usually build it for early game, and now its slightly weaker in the early game. For instance I have seen a lot of complaints about it focusing on how 1 point of each is not equal in the slightest, yet they don't even bother to account for the fact that there's more lethality.

However, by no means would I say it is not worth building or putting on a rune page. It can still give you that early game edge you need, and now gives you less of a diminishing edge late game. I have them on my rune page because back when it was armor pen I found it made a huge difference on my jungle clear times. Since it changed to lethality I haven't noticed a lowering in my jungle performance, so I don't think its that noticeable of a change early game at least(although maybe it is for assassins).

Titanium7012/16/2016, 12:49:35 PM1 votes

Lethality is a pretty strong stat right now - however with runes, you prepare for early game and in early you dont want it. If you want do deal dmg - build it, and use your runes to give you as much early power as possible. (especially as Lee)