@Riot The nerfs that feel the worst are the ones that say "their fun is more important than yours"

ScreamPaste·5/10/2015, 8:36:22 AM·4 votes·583 views

Nerfs always feel bad, underserved or otherwise, but the worst kind of nerf is the kind that says to players "your fun isn't as important to us as someone else's". This happened to Evelynn Season 2, leaving her intentionally horrible, so bad in fact that she become shorthand for "I'm trolling, dodge", and people were legitimately banned for playing her and doing poorly because it was hard to distinguish a bad Evelynn game from just plain trolling. Evelynn players were abused by the community, and their fun taken from them by riot, because their fun was impacting the fun of others. You didn't see Evelynn every game, and she was never overpowered. But playing against Evelynn was frustrating for new players. So Evenlynn players had their fun taken away.

That's the most extreme example of this happening that I can think of. But it has happened to other champions to lesser degrees.

This is the worst feeling sort of nerf. The sort where a champion who isn't actually too powerful, but the community outcry is. I thought Riot had abandoned this idea, Kalista's existence seems to spit in the face of the idea that a champion who isn't fun has to be kept competitively unviable. So why does it seem like community outcry is still affecting who is nerfed and who isn't? Why do champions who never or almost never even get looked at for competitive play, get nerfed?

I'm just perplexed. Riot why?

13 Comments

exiledFromBadmen5/10/2015, 8:55:47 AM3 votes

I really miss Evelynn T_T

disregardable5/10/2015, 8:46:49 AM2 votes

Is this about the Riven nerf? Because that wasn't exactly a large enough nerf to call it "fun killing". Also, Kalista isn't unfun to lane against. Her only issue is with champions that she sees only a few times during the game, melee with no gap closer tops/jglers.

Puri Puri Taric5/10/2015, 10:35:48 AM1 votes

bohooh.

Puri Puri Taric5/10/2015, 10:41:31 AM1 votes

bohooh.

qetzel5/10/2015, 3:16:28 PM1 votes

You have to balance the fun of the person playing the champion with the fun of the person playing against that champion. It is not an easy job. I think Riot are getting much, much better at it.

Proffesional play and soloqueue are also different things. What is strong in competitive play is not necessarily good in soloqueue and what is strong in soloqueue could be shit in professional play. You need to balance for both. Again, this is something that I think Riot has got much better at.