This is why Viegar needs a nerf

FeXUyzmL4l·8/30/2016, 7:36:03 AM·3 votes·540 views

http://imgur.com/a/rfqcu

facts 1)he was 1 level higher than me at 16 2)he did that much damage in 1.24 seconds 3)3 of my items are mr 2 are completed...for a total of 159 mr...

Riot won't do the right thing, but he truly is broken, they should nerf him back to being reasonable and let all the baddies cry because they can't 3 hit everyone even when they're not fed. I've not seen a single viegar game where he hasn't sh*t on everyone.

16 Comments

laughup028/30/2016, 10:52:23 AM6 votes

Hey, I'm the guy that gave you those Nasus tips a few days ago. Let me see if I can help you out here.

First of all, you have to remember that gangplank did about 750-800 dmg to you. That's a 1/3 of your health bar, so Veigar had a much easier time doing what he had to do since you had less health. Due to his void staff, and the fact you do not have much health, if he hits his Q and his W on you, then yes he will kill you with his ult.

Now, Veigar really isn't op. He can be very annoying to face late game yes, and when fed it can be very hard to deal with him if you and your team are not on the same page. But his winrate is at an avg 50.5% currently. He has some severe weaknesses that you can exploit, as long as it isn't like 4 hours into the game.

  1. He is immobile, no sustain, AND squishy. If you get on top of him, he just kinda melts.

  2. He is heavily skill-shot reliant. Ever since his change that made his E and Q harder to land, he's been given a lot more counterplay. It is very hard to hit his W without his E, or good predictions. His Q, altho easier to hit, can still be predicted and avoided. If you manage to not get stunned in his E and properly dodge while inside the cage, you can basically avoid all his damage.

  3. His early game is quite meh, and has a very bad winrate at 20-25 minutes. I know you're playing Nasus, but that means you can exploit that time if you're ahead.

I will admit that Veigar has been slowly rising up every few patches, but reason is because after he rises up slightly, he goes down again a patch or two later. Maybe this will be his big break, but we'll have to see. Currently however, he does not need a nerf.

I don't know why you built Frozen Heart AND trinity force tho, that build is kind of outdated. I myself am still a fan of trinity force, but I have stopped building Frozen Heart on Nasus over a year ago. It just isn't a good item on him after item changes and FH's nerf.

Try Zz'rot Portal over that and Frozen Heart if you want to keep trinity force, ofc make sure to rush CDR when possible. Or, you can rush Iceborn Gauntlet if you want to be more tankier for slightly less damage and mobility.

Also: You have like no health. Of course Veigar is going to 1-shot you if you're all MR but no health and he has a void staff. Make sure to buy health items as well. Also, is Veigar fed? He just might be doing that much since hes fed.

TL;DR: Veigar is currently actually balanced or very near it right now, GP did 1/3 of ur Hp Bar which set up Veigar, and your build is not the most optimal.

LitAF8/30/2016, 8:27:53 AM3 votes

Maybe you should care cause magic pen will melt you.

LitAF8/30/2016, 7:57:08 AM2 votes

He did around 3k on you, GP contributed to around 600dmg. You failed to mention his items

Kaioko8/30/2016, 8:09:40 PM1 votes

I'm going to point out something obvious here - Veigar's ult does more damage the lower health you are. Fact are you were dealt a total of 4.1K damage when you only had 2.5 K health (let's say 3K if you used your ultimate) that still means that his ult which he used as a finisher did way more damage than it needed to kill you.

This means he ultimated you once you were low and had someone else not contributed in damage, he would have done significantly less with it in fact about 40% less damage.

Hahahahyena8/30/2016, 8:40:39 PM1 votes

yeah hes too strong, no matter how much you build against him he always ends up 100-0ing anyone with his ult :/

Keepe8/30/2016, 9:15:38 PM1 votes

Hey look, you're not whining about his stun this time. Maybe you'll actually, I don't know, listen to what I said from the start instead of simpering like an oaf.

Veigar is a bit too strong right now, especially since the Mage Update decided that Veigar should get AP for sneezing on enemy champions. And I say this as an experienced Vivi player.

Should he be nerfed? Not persay, but he should either have his passive reworked or reverted back to Mana Regen while returning the Take-Down passive to his Q as it was. (1 AP per Champ Take-Down per level in Q.) A Veigar should have the skill to earn his AP rather than just handing it to him for no effort. Come late game, he will still have plenty of AP to throw around, but he'll have to have earned it. Just like a Nasus should earn his stacks.

xBushx8/30/2016, 1:38:43 PM1 votes

Yeah he is god.

That's why he was pick/ban in LCS across the globe.

It's insane the pros pick him in ADC cause he's so good.

MissingKayo8/30/2016, 8:05:19 PM1 votes

LMFAO NO. Stop crying and get good.