Junglers how do you do it?

Nimba·5/3/2015, 6:59:02 PM·43 votes·4,077 views

I always thought the QQ threads about how terrible it is to jungle in soloq were overstated but it's truly a nightmare.

says: Where are my ganks reply: Okay coming, go in on Kalista and run back to tower as I then am left to fight their and alone, barely escaping

another instance

our has given their two quick deaths by the time I've gotten to my blue then proceeds to flame me the entire match because this is presumably my fault, starts with the "REPORT EVE FOR UNSKILLED PLS" in all chat of course.

How do you put up with it? I can barely enjoy the game jungling when people are so damn rude, even when I pull off nice ganks sometimes I get flamed for ksing.

HOW DO YOU PUT UP WITH IT?

100 Comments

Nameless Voice5/3/2015, 8:31:46 PM38 votes

Today, I played Cho'gath jungle, because I felt that was what our team needed.

Towards the end of the game, we had a large teamfight at baron, where I chose to use my smite and my ultimate to kill enemies instead of killing the baron. We lost the baron, but aced their team and won the game.

My mid flamed me for letting them steal baron after we'd aced them. She also flamed me for not blocking the enemy Ahri's charm from hitting her.

I must say that's one of the strangest flamings I've ever had.

Vicvictorw5/3/2015, 7:49:14 PM18 votes

Junglers are the nanny of the game. You're essentially babysitting four children that you will need to have better judgement over so that your time is never wasted.

It is rare that they will actually know anything about your job to be able to tell you how to do it. Analyze the situation and determine whether it will be beneficial to go in; there is no sense in committing if they won't follow up.

Jus Clownin5/3/2015, 8:22:02 PM7 votes

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I always thought the QQ threads about how terrible it is to jungle in soloq were overstated but it's truly a nightmare.

says: Where are my ganks reply: Okay coming, go in on Kalista and run back to tower as I then am left to fight their and alone, barely escaping

another instance

our has given their two quick deaths by the time I've gotten to my blue then proceeds to flame me the entire match because this is presumably my fault, starts with the "REPORT EVE FOR UNSKILLED PLS" in all chat of course.

How do you put up with it? I can barely enjoy the game jungling when people are so damn rude, even when I pull off nice ganks sometimes I get flamed for ksing.

HOW DO YOU PUT UP WITH IT?

Simple: I dont. Most laners are entitled little children (My buffs.. MY kills, gank for ME!) who never look at anything beyond whats going on in their lane. (Come gank for me top even though your bot and clearing your jungle! WHY ARENT YOU STANDING HERE WAITING TO GANK FOR ME!)

Here's how i handle it as a main jungle. I will gank for you if -i- feel the opportunity is worth my time, and will benefit the team as a whole. Thats -my- call to make. Not yours. Your call to make revolves around you not doing stupid stuff in your lane. And if you start to get toxic because i wont hold your hand I'll purposefully ignore your lane.

Earl Eulrich5/3/2015, 10:59:28 PM6 votes

stoicism.

Yash Gautam5/3/2015, 7:09:39 PM4 votes

I recommend champs other than Evelynn. Try Rek'Sai or Vi. Maybe even Sejuani if you like being tanky. If you want, follow my build on Rek'Sai http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1801490341/219570991?tab=overview

THESuperStuntMan5/3/2015, 11:27:33 PM4 votes

Mute button as soon as someone says something negative. Works wonders for my enjoyment of the game.

Slamurai Jack5/4/2015, 2:53:05 AM4 votes

Step 1: Figure out which people on your team are the idiots. Watch your laners trade a bit while you're in between camps. Watch how they CS and see how they manipulate the minion wave. You can usually get a pretty good idea of which players on your team blatantly don't know what they're doing by the 5 minute mark.

Step 2: Avoid those people like the plague unless ganking for them is literally free, so free that you could 1v1 the enemy laner if you have to, which you probably will with your laner being an idiot and all. Also, idiots on your team also tend to have a habit of exposing themselves to ganks constantly, so it's probably a good idea to throw down some wards for them.

Step 3: Once you've identified the idiots on your team, it's time to try to help the non-idiots on your team (GG if you don't have any). This means helping them ward, trying to stay around their area of the map if they need help, and work in some ganks if you can. These are gonna be the guys that win you the game, so focus on helping them as much as possible, while only helping the idiots if you absolutely have to.

Step 4: The idiots on your team, being the idiots they are, are very likely to start getting lippy in chat, so remember: Mute is your friend. They're going to have nothing useful to say the entire game, so go ahead and press that mute button without hesitation.

Changsty5/3/2015, 7:01:21 PM3 votes

Mute them and continue doing your thing

Droogzy5/4/2015, 6:38:09 PM3 votes

I once had a game where a Kalista had given 7 kills over to the other team by 10 minutes into the game

"GG no ganks from Shyvana"

........

Dreadlocks5/3/2015, 9:31:42 PM3 votes

I usually say something along the lines of: You lost the lane by yourself, it's not my job to fix it. Or if i know they first picked a mid/top and then got counter picked i say something like: Your fault for first picking a champ that is easily countered.

As i jungler.. I try to spend my time helping a lane win.. not break even/add more to the feeding.

XIII Vanitas5/4/2015, 4:38:55 PM1 votes

Ignore any crybaby and use mainly pings to communicate. Easy. The most important thing about being a jungler is knowing how to spend your time. Time spent chatting is time wasted.

Evil Jester5/4/2015, 5:22:39 PM1 votes

only gank lanes that are winning or ahead. Your job isnt to gank, its to secure the objective, make sure they get it, not win the objective for them.

53872273_DEL5/4/2015, 6:54:15 PM1 votes

If a varus and blitz cant handle kalista and blitz, depressing. If the other teams jungler ganks, You better be counter ganking that SOB, and/or counter jungling. I put up with it by hitting that tab mute. and you focus on yourself. Solo Q isn't about teamwork, it's about farming yourself up to be a force to be reckoned with. If they get ganked, where are their wards at? I hate people who pick support but get their damage item first rather than sightstone because it prevents a handful of problems. Especially Mid, they should get the 2 stealth totem trinket. ward both sides of the river.. If you rally back it makes you look like a bitch. Gotta be the bigger man and just mute them, if they feed then well too bad, they got issues over a game. After game, some people stay and flame the hell.. You just either it play again or simply home immediately when you get into lobby.. I laugh at people's rage. Because its ignorant. When I first started ranked, I was one damn baddie. Then you get suspended for a day, you learn how to not speak and you learn how to mute people who bother you.. If they call you unskilled you can say "likewise to you".. And just roll on with your game. You lose, you learn, you get better.. Wukong vs. Heimer, avoid his bitch ass turrets and farm. Simple, take my advice with a grain of salt.

Sockenfreack5/4/2015, 6:59:35 PM1 votes

Thick skin my freind. That's helps a lot. I don't question myself and make desisions. When I got the decision between "Enemy jungle camps top. Top can barely hold its position but is not losing tower. Gank or First drake?" I do the first drake. It helps the whole team and when the enemy jungle is camping anyways I'll do a tank mid on my way top. So if the toplaner is blessed with the brain capacity of a average human he decides to hug his tower and keeps farming under it till Im there. That should lead to mid having free lane time not has the advantage of being a drake up and top gets a good ol gank witch helps him too. When he then picks up a kill and enemy top lane had to go back he also got free lane time~~ Problem solved

Of course this is a best case cenario but when u know what you are doing u can handle it. and when ur team blames u for the loss of the game in the lobby and u are Udyr with a 22/0/13 and had multiple hanks on every lane.... Well then u usually don't get reports :D

Lysdexic15/4/2015, 7:07:53 PM1 votes

What I do is explain to them the reasoning for my actions insofar and then mute them. I want them to know that no, it is not entirely because I do not like them, I actually have a thought process behind this. However, this will rarely stop the verbal abuse, so I mute them anyway so I can concentrate on the game.

Nightmist Dark5/4/2015, 7:26:16 PM1 votes

item 3083 thick skin man

Barrclaw5/5/2015, 3:59:58 AM1 votes

Eventually you learn to just not care anymore.

Occams Raiser5/5/2015, 2:00:42 PM1 votes

I have never seen a jungler explain his actions. That is part of the problem. I think many junglers would realize that flying by the seat of your pants is nerve racking for laners as well. I ask you a question and get silence. Go f@#k yourself and that thin skin. It's hard for all of us. If you think you are too good to explain your actions or communicate, you get what get.

Lugg5/4/2015, 6:27:38 AM1 votes

Jungling is definitely the hardest role in solo q. If you don't gank all three lanes continuously at the same time and stay farmed up, you get flamed and reported.

I really love the games where all 3 of my lanes have lost their lane before I even complete one round thru the jungle. And of course it's my fault.

djjomon5/4/2015, 1:31:25 PM1 votes

Honestly, it's this kind of team attitude that made me become a jungle main. I noticed a trend of losing games where the junglers had no map awareness and no objective control (silver OP). The ganks were usually good, or their powerfarm to 6 was fine. But would chase for kills top instead of securing dragons, wouldn't push towers, etc.

I'd rather have dumbass laners than a dumbass trying run the map lol. Now, for better or worse, I'm the dumbass running the map.

terkmc5/4/2015, 2:35:41 PM1 votes

I vent my anger my pummeling the shit out of the enemy team with ganks from all angle, repeatedly, until their team flame one of their laner for feeding

Karlyr5/4/2015, 2:37:43 PM1 votes

How do I do it ? Press tab. See that bubule across your teammates names ? Click, every, single, one, of, them.

Good job ! You are now a jungler !

Shogunai5/4/2015, 3:03:57 PM1 votes

Jungling is all about decision making an map awareness, so best thing you can do is understand what your doing an focus on that. Don't get me wrong you should be ganking but when the opportunity presents itself. Remember your in full control of what your doing and no one else. People will complain but let them, if it gets annoying, hit the mute button. Focus on your game an try to make as much of an impact that you can.

Gingivits5/4/2015, 3:05:14 PM1 votes

I used to think jungling was hard. Now I know its not just hard but really tests your patience.

I jungled as Nunu for a little while and I knew his ganks were pretty bad but his counter jungling was insane. The enemy jungle was Amumu so I proceeded to steal every big monster from each camp and about half his buffs to the point where he was 2 levels behind me and was struggling to get items.

Ezreal (mid) dies to Ahri once and then cries because he should be getting ganks and snowball passed her (I had tried ganking before but it was Ahri with a Nunu and Ezreal, was not going to happen). I then tell him I will try once more and ping that I'm on my way. He dives in and dives while I'm still running towards there. Then he tells me that I am a terrible jungler and shouldn't jungle anymore or just uninstall because he could only imagine what I was like in lane.

Amumu ended up rage quitting because he couldn't get a single big monster and when he ganked, they almost gave up a double/triple kill every time because he was so under leveled.

mvargus5/4/2015, 3:16:31 PM1 votes

First, take a deep breath.

Second, remember that no matter how well you do, someone will likely complain about your jungling.

I've been jungling for a few months now. I ended up falling into it when I joined my current teamspeak community. It seemed like the people I played with were very interested in playing top, adc and support, and as I was a poor midlaner and had Sejuani, I started jungling with her before patch 5.2 came out. It helped a bit that I started out jungling for friends, but I soon learned that a lot of players will complain about your play.

And often its not something you can do much about. I played one game where the mid on my side was a Veigar. He was facing Pantheon. Veigar pushed the lane very hard, so Pantheon was hanging out under his turret and farming. At the same time Veigar was constantly demanding that I come and gank even though there was absolutely no way for me to do that without turret diving Pantheon. I told him multiple times that it was not a good gank, but Veigar blamed the situation on me. (only for the ADC and top laners to jump on him for his attitude. It wasn't a happy chat.)

Heck last night I was in a game where I played Amumu. (Sejuani was banned as always happens now.) I was farming hard, but also ganking whenever I was near a lane. The other teams toplaner both complimented me and complained about her own jungler in all chat saying something like. "Man Amumu, you are ganking all over the place, I wish our jungler would use you as an example." (Sadly, their team eventually outscaled ours and my side lost.)

I've learned to have a very thick skin when jungling in solo queue. Some players are very patient, but many don't want to accept that they make mistakes and find the jungler to be a convenient scapegoat.

GundayMonday5/4/2015, 3:39:25 PM1 votes

Mute button OP.

Panwar5/4/2015, 4:22:07 PM1 votes

I had a game last night where my Irelia was losing to the Zed top. But unfortunately it was a game where all my lanes were losing or on the back foot. After several need assistance pings from Irelia and a couple of "Need help top." I write in chat "Everyone needs help." To her credit she didn't complain again the entire match, and even though Zed pushed her passed her second turret the other lanes did well enough that we were able to pull out a win.