Veigar is underpowered.. (With Explaination)

Δpocalypse·9/16/2017, 11:29:59 AM·4 votes·1,511 views

So, ive been playing veigar for a long time. So the old veigar had an instant "E" his damage was a little bit weaker than now. But considering the new veigar deals too much damage and overkills, that is not good. The new veigar is not so strong as you may think. He is more annoying. You could just win matchup by playing an long range mage and zone him from minions or even worse you can go and play utility assassins like fizz, zed or kayne and you will automatically win if you did not make a huge mistake. When you are fed with veigar it all goes down if you can hit your E with him, if you do miss your E its really punishing and can lose a whole game for it. The new delayed veigar stun is not really the best you have to practice alot to hit it good, or else you need to hit abilities with W and Q. I mean Q is fairly easy to hit but it doesnt do that much damage. his W does 100% ap scaling and deals alot of damage. Even if you hit the stun on target you may not hit W cause the stun range is more than the W and if it was an assassin you'd be dead. The old veigar had just the right amount of damage and he was a little more forgiving. The new Veigar ult is really strong but thats only his ult. The old veigar ult did damage relying on the enemy AP. So if you fell behind early game it wasnt that punishing. But as of right now Veigar is really weak and no one should consider picking him up anytime soon. Yes I do know that you can climb with veigar and that there are pro veigar players, Im currently on a 60% winrate in low elo (mid gold). You are pretty much forced to build protobelt or zhonyas to survive and those items arent even the best escaping tools. Barrier is bad, teleport (cause the horrible early game) and ghost cause no mobility has to be used. As if i faced veigar and he got 1500AP and oneshotted me, I would be pretty pissed. But overall he is just one annoying bad champion. End of the line. Write your thoughts.

-OTP Veigar

18 Comments

undesirable team9/16/2017, 12:11:04 PM5 votes

hey guys im a draven main i think my champiion is weak here's why: he has to press buttons!?!? wtf??!/ riot?

DariusDemiurge9/16/2017, 11:44:07 AM4 votes

You're wrong.

Darkdemon6539/16/2017, 11:41:56 AM4 votes

https://imgur.com/a/TzS4j

Anyway, it's already known that he's UP and he already has buffs on the PBE.

bloom9/16/2017, 12:27:49 PM2 votes

Veigar is just pretty outdated, either buffs or mini mechanic updates wont make him neither healthly nor balanced. He is just stupid and unfunny to play as and against due to lack of skill expresion (to erase any paper champion you click just Q + R) and overall dumb playpattern (afk farm for 20 min then just evaporate enemies). Years ago (like late 2014 or 2015) riot said veigar will get his VGU in 2017.. and now in 2017 they don't even consider him as candidate even though he needs it badly.

Mr Rico Taco9/16/2017, 11:55:04 AM1 votes

Veigar support from the old C9 Lemonation was the reason for those nerfs... it seems to me, the stun of 2 seconds is very strong , with that stun Lemonation forced almost every enemy champ to buy mercury boots to mitigate the time, its the same problem with Malzahaar now, u force every carry to buy QSS or as a poke champ, plus the ultimate of Veigar oneshoted easily those ap champs like Fizz, in that time if u are far behind didnt matter that old ultimate carried many games vs ap comps, and what Riot tries to do is that the champion is worthy to his mechanics and difficulty, although veigar is one of the strongest champions in lategame therefore one of the weakest in early, its delay in the E is because that is more a skill to zoned than to stun, using it to avoid ganks or fights or force them if the enemy is overextended, but of course ... a strong stun in area requires a weakness, besides that unlike other stun abilities it is very effective as a disengage n peel to avoid forced confrontations with utlimates like Rengar jump, not sur if that ultimate of Malphite also, i dont remmebt if there are some abilities that passes through the stun without removing the champ from the game like Master yi Q or W from Mao Kai.

XxxLumberJackxxX9/16/2017, 4:51:42 PM1 votes

I'm not convinced he needs an update. Just some thorough love tapping. Is really just like 0.1 sec off the delay on W and a mana decrease on E for starters

Trídent9/16/2017, 6:06:45 PM1 votes

well, you're in luck: he has buffs on the PBE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSlA09C91sc

Liquid Poro 9/27/2017, 12:52:10 PM1 votes

Not until changes and late game.