Why would anyone ever go blue Kayn over red?

FancyKiwi·10/24/2017, 12:39:04 AM·1 votes·19,258 views

Serious question. I don't play Kayn and never have but red Kayn seems to do similar damage while have far more survivability since he can ult the tank while near dead and come out near full HP. He also get a AOE knock up while blue make a shadow to cast it while he moves woo. Blue Kayn can ult from slightly farther and resetting his passive while red does a ton of max HP damage while healing a fuck ton. So am I missing something or is red better than blue in nearly every way?

9 Comments

Salron10/24/2017, 3:30:16 AM2 votes

Red Kayn does no where near as much damage as Blue Kayn

SA Kayn kills a squishy in WQAA

The Deckowner10/24/2017, 12:42:34 AM2 votes

Because they feel like trolling

koshkyra10/24/2017, 12:40:25 AM2 votes

Because item 3147 item 3087 item 3078

crzymdscntst10/24/2017, 1:18:50 AM1 votes

The problem I see is that most Kayn players don't abuse his W from inside the walls. (extra range and can be cast from inside a wall, hello friend behind that wall thinking you were safe)

But on the other hand, his only bonus for SA is a 3 (or was it 4) second window from his first hit and then another one after his ultimate for that bonus magic damage. The only thing SA gives outside of that window is more mobility to his skills.

PhantomGG10/24/2017, 3:25:12 AM1 votes

In all seriousness Blue Kayn is just as strong as red. Just red Looks stronger because of current meta with tanks. When the enemy team is a team comp consisting of

Rumble MasterYi Syndra Ashe Lux

Just a team full of squishies, Blue Kayn legit has a field day, and literally puts his "farm tool" to work. a blue kayn with item 1400 item 3147 will erase your adc faster than you can say "WHAT THE FUCK RIOT?!", blue kayn is far more efficent in dealing with really squishy comps. Hell I will go blue kayn even if the comp is

Maokai Sejuani Syndra KogMaw Lulu

For I see 3 squishies I can absolutely destroy if they make even the smallest of mistakes. I really only like Red Kayn in comps where almost everyone is a tank, both forms are good in the right situations. This isn't me dick riding blue form btw, this is just me putting focus on talking about blue form since it's your question.

Q: But Phantom, Full AD Rahst is also good at killing squishy people so why is blue form better at it?

A: Because young padiwan, Rahst does "delayed" damage, his W is a self stun, and his E is slower, and his R instead is mathematically changed to be better against tanks. Blue form, your E is faster/better, your R scales with your AD, and W has no self stun, making him much faster at killing squishies.

KlydeFrog10/24/2017, 10:09:44 PM1 votes

why play as rengar over kha? renagr falls off if he doesnt get all the passive kha is just steronger all together

aconartist2/18/2019, 7:07:01 PM1 votes

Blue kayn is good for a team with squishies and minimal CC. Dont even go blue if there is tons of CC

Done2510/24/2017, 12:51:41 AM1 votes

Because if your team sucks and he somehow gets ahead he'll pretty much one shot anyone he feels like killing. But that's more an issue with Lethality and Duskblade tbh.

SEKAI10/24/2017, 1:14:18 AM1 votes

Because Shadow Assassin kills most people the instant he makes contact with them if he's ahead (partially because of the blue passive that converts his damage, post mitigation, to BONUS magic damage), Rhaast would take longer to kill but he's unkillable when reasonably fed. Shadow Assassin Kayn also runs faster with E.

Though as another said, maybe his strength in SA form is more attributed by duskblade and lethality items than himself. Idk.

Shadow Assasssin is also one of the few assassins left in the game that is not gated by 10 conditions and delays before being allowed their burst, which is also surprising given he's a new champ released just months ago. And no, I'm actually saying it as a good thing, because while I support giving conditions to assassinations, how Riot does it is both an overkill and the worst possible ways to do it by using primarily the delay-gating.