So I'm a support main, and there is always that special adc that tells me what champion to play. I know there's synergy and what not, but you don't see a support telling the adc who to play, or else every adc I carry would be Lucian. I just wonder if anyone else experiences this, and why it's so common?
Strawberrycocoa8 votesSometimes it's helpful to be flexible when people ask you to change champs. Once had an ally Yasuo ask me to pick a different champ because I was picking a melee support when we had melee mid and top already. I thought about it for a second, then had the best idea and told him, "Oh man, do I have the support for you."
I picked Lulu. And every time I ulted Yasuo, sweet sweet airbornes on every teamfight.
Listening to his request made that match GLORIOUS.
Slythion3 votesFlexible players are amazing, everyone was lucky to have you :3
Abyssphere1 votesSometimes it's helpful to be flexible when people ask you to change champs. Once had an ally Yasuo ask me to pick a different champ because I was picking a melee support when we had melee mid and top already. I thought about it for a second, then had the best idea and told him, "Oh man, do I have the support for you."
I picked Lulu. And every time I ulted Yasuo, sweet sweet airbornes on every teamfight.
Listening to his request made that match GLORIOUS.
The Yasuo was actually being smart there, though. There's a difference between suggesting something for the sake of your teamcomp and your Vayne saying for no particular reason that she "needs a Blitzcrank".
Slythion5 votesMostly because ADC's are the babies of the lane, and are largely useless without a good support. They ask for a champion that
I know there's the whole "adc's are jerks and supports are saints" stereotype in league, but you have to realize that adc's are put into a very vulnerable position just by picking that role and should be allowed to ask for something that fits their early game needs. You can hate the classic "adc's are jerks" but bottom line is, you need them as much as they need you and the situation is that you should be going something that synergizes well with them. It's just how the relationship works.
I'm not saying it's ok for an adc to bully their support for not doing everything you say, but a support's primary job is to help the adc through their early game. You service them (which does NOT mean you are owned by them). They should appreciate you for your service, as they can't do anything without you, but they should be allowed to ask for something that fits their needs.
huar3w1 votes^THIS
And might I add, I see a lot of supports who select their champion with zero regards to the team comp as a whole.
For example, team has a squishy jungler/top and the support last picks another squishy. Or I see supports picking squishies like Soraka against a team with various assassins who can easily dispose her.
Slythion2 votesThe stigma that adc's are jerks and supports are saints causes a lot of issues. Both classes can and will be in the wrong in some cases
Lycanoon1 votesAny ADC can be easily synergized with... Just depends on how WELL you coordinate with them. Splitting up from time to time to ensure a gank or surprise kill or saving your ADC's ass from being over ran is required.
As a quinn main, I tend to throw out her skystrike if I see my team retreating and it gives us JUST enough space between us to regroup then move in for the kill. Normally this isnt the case and I get left hanging and all alone up against 3 - 5 champs.
Ironically, people hate quinn...and I've had quite a bit of flame as a quinn main. I troll the map with her R and it's even worse in ARAM! I lure a champ or two into a team gank...
But wait...with her mobility and ability to do so, ISN'T THAT THE RIGHT MOVE!? lol
Slythion1 votesNot necessarily, there are better adcs for different comps.
Need some utility or lockdown for teamfights? 
or 
Need an adc that can self-peel or stay safe in teamfights? 
Need an adc for a duel/pick comp? 
You may have success with Quinn due to her overloaded duel kit that allows her to win and dive players that get caught out (especially good in lower ranks), but that doesn't mean she is the best choice.
As for synergy, you are sorta correct. Any bot lane can work, or you can expand that to say any champion in any lane can work. It all depends on matchup/player skill/team comps/ etc. Hell, Dyrus went Tank Nami top (yes, 
) and won a ranked match in high elo (diamond or master? Idk).
The point is, it's really up to the adc to at least suggest who would be better suited for their playstyle.
They play an agressive, dive-orientated style but the team needs a tank or someone to peel? 
They play a safe, farm-fest style (so needs a champion that can zone/trade by themselves) and the team needs some poke/siege potential? 
ADC is extremely passive and the team requires sustain for their competent front-liners for long brawls/fights? 
As you can see, there are optimal picks that are simply better than the others. Your adc also knows who they work with best on a player-skill level and not just champions, so it is wise to at least consider to their requests.
P.S.- There are comps that simply don't work. Don't go /
into /
. No amount of synergy can save that poor rat if the enemy is at least slightly good.
Lycanoon1 votesVery solid advice. I'll take that into accord the next match I play in ranked. Last night, I played a ranked and was going to support bot with soraka...and I stated I was going to use her, my team banned her anyway. So with the 2 gold and 1 silver on my team...decided to be clowns and tell me to play Taric...how about, no? I am NOT familiar with taric yet, so I went with quinn. Oh how lovely that match turned out. Being told "leave my farm alone!" "Don't attack anyone, stay back and look pretty" "Go JG!" "blah blah blah blah"
Keep in mind, here I sit at level 3 with 1 death, while everyone else on my team is level 5 - 8. Under-geared, and just laughing at the sheer stupidity of leaving their "support/sub-adc" unfed and under-leveled. So what happened? Dragon taken repeatedly. Herald and Baron taken repeatedly. Trolled our lanes and inhibitors. All the while, I kept safe and pulled crowd control, popping off skystrike and a blind or two where needed...warding top and mid. I FINALLY leveled up to a substantial level, but I was so unfed and weak that going up against anyone at end-game would have been suicide. Pretty sad that the enemy team agreed that the amount of salt in the end-match lobby was uncalled for, and stated "Next time, FEED YOUR SUPPORT NOOBS." I couldn't help myself and just put +1 and left the lobby.
Slythion1 votes...you went Quinn support?
Lycanoon1 votesYup. Dick move, yes. But I played to the best of my ability (sadly it looked like I was totally new to the game thanks to my team being LESS THAN non-helpful.
Slythion1 votesYou have got to be kidding...
Lycanoon1 votesLOL! I don't think you understood me clearly.
I was going to play for support, MY TEAM banned her...even after I said I would play that champ as a support.
Seeing as I don't have Taric unlocked and Kayle wasn't exactly a good pick for the champs my team was playing...and by the enemy team's picks...what more would you expect outta me? Yes, I got tilted just a little, but I didn't feed the enemy team what-so-ever, and I would never do that. So I went with Quinn to provide slows, blinds, reveals, and quick warding lanes.
Quinn isn't a Famine champ either, that would be the case behind a complete failure. Yes, the enemy team DID side with me due to the amount of toxicity and salt I was getting. My team blamed me solely for the match being thrown, losing dragons, barons, and their deaths as well (they shouldn't have banned the champ I requested then).
I take negative criticism WHEN it's due...and picking quinn, yea...I deserved some of the salt...but being purely blamed for the match going south? Naw...Cho' gath and our vlad fed them EARLY...not to mention the others had more deaths early on prior to me getting wasted.
Not my fault they fell for the classic Bait tactic...and rushed after 1 weakened champ just to get ganked by the other 4...where was I? Staying in lane and dropping minions and pushing turrets.
Look, I'm not going to keep defending myself here when the match history shows it all. So...I pulled a dick move, after getting dicked. Fair is Fair in these "elitest ELO matches". [slayer-jinx-catface]
Almighty4 votesALL the time. Vaynes are especially more bossy towards the support.
Vayne: Pick something with CC and tankyness Me: Picks Sona/Soraka/Janna because that's what i feel like playing. Vayne: nub. (Vayne leaves)
This is hands down my fave scenario.
Don't let any stranger on the internet tell you how to have fun.
Almighty.
MunchCrunchLunch3 votesTeam fight starts
Tumbles into blitz hook and dies
: GG SCRUB SUPPORT
: That wasn't even..
: REPORTED
akaSolo3 votesNo I typically ask the adc if there are any support he would like me to play.
Shonjl2 votesBecause ADCs think that support is their bitch, which isn't the case.
Support is just there to help you get started since most adcs suck badly early game, and them getting ahead has a very big impact on a game.
Just ignore them, I usually mute ADCs that act like I should praise them, hell I would take kills and CS from them to spite them. Not everything is about the ADC which is an unknown concept to them.
What I would do is do what you want to do, but also take into consideration what the team needs/what the enemy has. Like if they have a Blitzcrank, it may not be a good idea to play Soraka or Sona even if you want to since if you lose lane, its very likely you will get blamed and to be honest, it probably was your fault too, either because you got grabbed, or they got grabbed and you had nothing to stop them like a CC champ would. But if you are good at those champs where you are confident at the matchup, go at it, just better be ready to prove you can not be a hinderance.
IcyPepper1 votesSupport is just there to help you get started since most adcs suck badly early game
Thank you. Ugh, I hate it when the ADC is like "where is my support" twenty minutes in when I'm helping the top/midlaner get shit done.
After ten-fifteen minutes tops, I'm the team's support, not your goddamn babysitter -_- If you can't use your trinket to ward, that's your problem.
Fovere1 votesBecause ADCs think that support is their bitch, which isn't the case.
Support is just there to help you get started since most adcs suck badly early game, and them getting ahead has a very big impact on a game.
Just ignore them, I usually mute ADCs that act like I should praise them, hell I would take kills and CS from them to spite them. Not everything is about the ADC which is an unknown concept to them.
What I would do is do what you want to do, but also take into consideration what the team needs/what the enemy has. Like if they have a Blitzcrank, it may not be a good idea to play Soraka or Sona even if you want to since if you lose lane, its very likely you will get blamed and to be honest, it probably was your fault too, either because you got grabbed, or they got grabbed and you had nothing to stop them like a CC champ would. But if you are good at those champs where you are confident at the matchup, go at it, just better be ready to prove you can not be a hinderance.
I liked this post so much I just had to repost it.
Athenes Lulu2 votesThis isn't support exclusive rofl, I have heard of teammates telling my junglers, midlaners, and even toplaners on who to play on a very regular basis.
If you are seriously finding that a problem, then that's on you. The moment I hear this kind of shit, I will know from the bottom of my head, this teammate is probably bad, and that I can disregard anything he says.
I just lock in Lulu/Sona and babysat and carried their shitty asses anyways.
EndlessSorcerer4 votesIt depends on how they phrase it and their reasoning.
"Pick Gragas jungle. I command you, lowly peon."
is significantly different from
"We already have 4 squishy champions. A tanky jungler might be beneficial."
Athenes Lulu1 votesYou kinda missed the point of that post, but yes, you are still correct.
Even till this day I still see people demanding non-supports to play certain champs because he/she is OP (which also means they themselves don't have to have much "skill"), as implied from the OP.
Baby Ghoul1 votesI don't ever see people commanding top and mid to pick a certain champion. To much lesser extent people may occasionally ask for a tanky jungler. They lock Master Yi regardless of how you ask and nobody wants to piss off the jungler because they're the ones responsible for ganking.
The majority of games people just assume the support will fill out what's needed, and its why games are lost so many times in champion select. The support cannot properly fill out a heavy AD or AP comp because they are utility based and they don't scale like the rest of their teammates. The items they get are different.
That Vayne asking for Braum is always super annoying, but hey that's what the mute option is for. If you get teammates that don't communicate from champion select you're always better off playing your best champion.
rand0mredneck2 votesIt's even worse when you pick a non-typical support. I've been called everything from a "Neckbeard troll-picker" to "Kumquat fucking racist" for maining support Gragas.
MunchCrunchLunch2 votesmostly I see supports asking adcs which they prefer rather than the other way around. there is nothing wrong with it
soulbatt1 voteswhoever picks second should be able to pick a champ that synergies with their lane partner cant count the time ive picked leona for an adc teemo to show up facepalm
Erockandroll1 voteswhoever picks second should be able to pick a champ that synergies with their lane partner cant count the time ive picked leona for an adc teemo to show up facepalm
With out even asking if your any good at tank supports, or even own any of the good ones? One time, I was hovering over Karma, And the ADC locked in Leona because they were adamant about not laning with karma, then demanded that I swapped them an ADC. Except I couldn't because I didn't actually own Leona at the time.
I see this pretty often, but 90% of the time its for the team not just the adc. Like, ADC asks me to be a tank, so I check my team and we have no tank so I go Thresh. Stuff like that.
And that's another problem. With Support level xp and Items, Unless your Alistar, you can't be the teams tank, even with a tank support. If you get to that point, you already screwed up.
soulbatt1 votesthe adc your referencing is just a moron you dont lock and expect a trade(and its been stated force picking a different role then assigned is bannable) , pick order is what matters people need to hover that way the team can see if they are going to be balanced before its too late
spombjop1 votespick raka always when is not banned. i don't play supp but i always win when i do with raka
Around999People1 votesI see this pretty often, but 90% of the time its for the team not just the adc. Like, ADC asks me to be a tank, so I check my team and we have no tank so I go Thresh. Stuff like that.
theragingnerd1 votesits just in the best interest of the team to pick what the team needs these people are saying this because they want the team to win and as your lane partner they are the most qualified to ask this
Lycanoon1 votesI usually don't have an issue switching up my roll in PVP or "rotations"...but when I have a full line of Tanks or ADC's and they expect a support...HA! No.
or or 
would be my go to's from there on out.
I don't get why people demand specific champs to be played when you damn good and well know that people play with certain strengths and weaknesses...and the most common weakness is the most obvious! People forget to build ARMOR to protect themselves from getting 1 - 3 shotted by a mediocre Katarina or some other burst damage champ.
When I get ranked people in AI or ARAM see the build i go with for my character...I get called a noob, flamed, and "reported" for feeding and being unsportsman-like.
There will always be toxic mofo's in games like this. Best bet is to take it with a grain of salt and just move forward from there.
lostbob1171 votesBecause we don't want a support that we can't work with. If you pick Leona for an ADC that wants to sit back, relax, and farm then you both won't well together. Where you could have picked Janna instead and helped out a lot more for that ADC.
siilentdeath1 votesonly demand i make as an ADC is that the support pick a legit proven support none of these champions. then play like a support and not build pure apc with no warding or sightstone purchase. champions i have gotten as support this season that were WTF are 
not making this stuff up.
CoTheSlow1 votesOk Trundle is an actual support (as in he sees pro play and such). I also Know that people sometimes played illoai support in Kill lanes due to her straight up lane power. But the others I have heard nothing of. I can kind of see why you might pick Kindred, sol or azir as they have some mild cc/zoning power but I wouldn't say they were optimal. I don't know enough about the others to comment on them though.
Anu3isII2 votes : People had had considered my Support capabilities a joke, had called me a troll, had reported and laughed at me... Until Season 4 came, and the brainless Tank Supports ran rampart destroying any lane without one of their kind... That was my time to shine, and I didn't only rise in power, I made them suffer! I made them feel my torment, I made them feel useless, I made them fear me, and in those days, people recognized my true power!
Cyndercat1 votesTrundle works though and had a pretty high win rate too.
YCitizenSnipsY1 votes"but you don't see a support telling the adc who to play"
Then you don't play league of legends
Tentacle Love1 votesYOUR adc shouldn't determine the support you play. The ENEMY adc should be the deciding factor.
Bodkins Odds1 votesUsually it's the enemy support that's the deciding factor.
MrLlamaWaffle1 votesI usually don't mind, usually just means that the support they want me to play is one they are comfortable laning with, fine by me.
SpongebobIsLife1 votesI think it comes down to the fact that certain supports fit their playstyles better. For example, if you have a draven main, you do not wanna pick a passive support like raka or janna. Also, some people just dont play well with certain champs, for example, Supports make 90 percent of the plays in the bot lane, therefore play making supports snowball faster. On the other end of that, there are players who prefer to just farm a lane out and not really get aggro as adcs scale harder with cs (items) then most champions and do not want to risk getting behind. I do not say this to sound rude, but adcs are supposed to be the carry, so anyway that you can help them carry is beneficial for you and for your team.
