Does anyone think Sated Devourer is balanced?

Munchauzens·8/12/2015, 7:45:23 PM·38 votes·3,221 views

I'd like to get people's opinions on sated. I think it makes multiple champs far too strong to be healthy. Its not even a late game item like its supposed to be. It's easily completed at 20 minutes. Yes, I understand that it has slight tradeoffs, more farming less ganking and whatnot. Overall though, I think it is currently immensely too powerful. can practically 1 shot squishies with ult and botrk. and several others can kill squishies in literally three or four auto attacks late game.

I hope Sated gets removed or massively nerfed. What do other people think?

91 Comments

Ironclad Dragon8/12/2015, 8:33:03 PM15 votes

Oh, it's perfectly balanced. To spoil my day.

Biffolo8/13/2015, 12:44:39 AM12 votes

Not gonna lie, I feel it's fine. I know it's not a popular opinion, but I feel 15-20 minutes its plenty of time to do work to make sure things are difficult for the other person to get things done properly. Xin is by far the scariest one with it, because he actually has meaningful early game pressure to go with it.

Wiggle Dat Butt8/12/2015, 8:04:16 PM8 votes

If a team has a sated devourer jungle on their team, and all lanes win while the jungle farms.. Sated jungler is going to be ridiculously OP.

If a team has a sated devourer jungle on their team, and all lanes lose while the jungle farms.. he's not going to be able to carry.

It's a real double-edged sword and to me it promotes bad jungling ideas like you should be in your jungle farming the entire game instead of helping your laners out. I've never seen more bad junglers ever since devourer came out because everything "thinks" they are so "OP" when they get the item. I got to plat 3 using one jungler and one mid lane I'd say 80-90% of games and I did not change my build to try to accommodate to devourer.

I still get people who rage at me when they see me build warrior. They are like "lol noob went warrior, sated so good you suck" at about 10 minutes in the game. It literally never fails. Then when I go 13-2 or something and carry the hell out of them, they don't know what to say and just start repeating stupid phrases like "salt" "git gud" "global warming" and sound like idiots.

Teslyn8/13/2015, 2:34:05 AM6 votes

no, not balanced.

Cowgirl Ed8/12/2015, 8:07:32 PM4 votes

No it is not

A bad Malzahar8/12/2015, 10:10:33 PM4 votes

Warwick's ult doesn't even trigger the Phantom Hit passive of Devourer.

Cogito Ergo Sol 8/12/2015, 8:32:21 PM3 votes

Completely unbalanced right now, it should be a late game item but you can complete it at 20 mins, plus the normal devourer (the not sated one) is more gold efficient then Warrior. I think they should remove it. It only brings toxicity to the game, junglers WANT the crab for more stacks, an this bring too much control of the dragon and the baron (e,g, instead of ganking he does the crab)

Zyorhist8/13/2015, 8:55:54 PM3 votes

I have been on both ends of the devourer. I have played as the sated junglers and against them. The biggest thing that people don't realize is that they can do something about the devourer. Its weak until its built and takes time to build. I don't see nearly enough counterjungling to shut down the sated junglers.

I was against a sated kayle not too long ago, and the game went to the 40 minute mark. I kept her from getting past the 22 stack limit because I kept everything down that she could stack on. Almost all of her stacks were from assists she managed to get through fights.

That being said I don't think the devourer should produce as many stacks from dragon and shouldn't get stacks from enemies. It should produce stacks solely from large monsters. This would mean that the decision to make a play in a lane actually has to be decided over picking up another 3 stacks from a side of the jungle.

warpenguin5558/12/2015, 11:59:29 PM3 votes

i do. if you fall behind then complete sated, your still pretty useless

KONO RUBICK DA8/12/2015, 9:18:23 PM3 votes

balanced, just broken on kayle because she is a hyper carry with 3 sec ulti, and on shyvana

yi can be focused down, or cc'ed it's just bronze players instead of teamfight they go 1v1 him

MarkedOfKane8/13/2015, 1:29:10 AM3 votes

They kill champions who aren't even squishy in just a few hits. How did this item not get pulled? Its ridiculous.

Doctor Dyment8/12/2015, 10:47:16 PM3 votes

The biggest issue is that it makes champions who already have very large snowballing potential... even more snowbally. It becomes very frustrating when Master Yi, an already fast-to-snowball champion that can deal high damage rather quickly, can snowball even FASTER and with MORE DAMAGE in a shorter time.

NemeBro8/12/2015, 10:57:14 PM3 votes

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I'd like to get people's opinions on sated. I think it makes multiple champs far too strong to be healthy. Its not even a late game item like its supposed to be. It's easily completed at 20 minutes. Yes, I understand that it has slight tradeoffs, more farming less ganking and whatnot. Overall though, I think it is currently immensely too powerful. can practically 1 shot squishies with ult and botrk. and several others can kill squishies in literally three or four auto attacks late game.

I hope Sated gets removed or massively nerfed. What do other people think?

Sated Devourer does nothing to help Warwick one shot squishy champions with his ult compared to the previous iteration of the item. The phantom hit passive doesn't trigger with his ult. Warwick was able to vaporize squishy champions before the release of sated devourer. So could Yi and Shyvana. Xin Zhao and Kayle I am less certain of, but in Kayle's case she was also buffed when sated hit, and her itemization got better as well.

Are people only just now realizing how easily Master Yi kills squishies?

Rebonack8/12/2015, 7:48:53 PM2 votes

Balanced compared to what?

Bellows8/12/2015, 7:51:07 PM2 votes

No, atleast not for a few champs, i see the effect on other champs with items like this and the old wriggles lanturn, but even if sated devourer is capped at 30, that is the point at which is effective on champs that use it, however, that point of effectiveness is the point of godliness on champs like yi and shy. Its shouldnt be in the game honestly cause it cant be adapted to certain champs without making others horrendously annoying combined with kits like yi's.

All in all, it shouldnt exist simply because of the unique varying kits that exist. it an item that makes some decent and others OP. There may be a way to fix this, like editing runeglaive so its only sub par on ez, but until then keep it in the shop for now riot.

GundayMonday8/12/2015, 8:00:10 PM2 votes

Yes, it's balanced. The ramp up time is pretty big before devourer junglers hit their sated powerspikes. You have a good 20 mins to make their farming a living hell. After they build devourer, they're going to build something like item 3153 which makes them extra squishy. If a sated jungler can survive long enough to get to that 6 item late game godmode powerspike, they deserve it.

Matezoide8/12/2015, 9:01:35 PM2 votes

The problem with Sated Devourer is how badly several champions can abuse it, as well as the fact Blade of the Ruined King is completely broken.

Partholonian8/12/2015, 10:43:44 PM2 votes

Sated + BOTRK is a ton of damage, but it also leaves the user very squishy. Except maybe Kayle, most other users of it are going to get melted just as fast as they melt others. And aside from Olaf (who I actually haven't seen with it, although it sounds terrifying on paper), anyone using that combo can still be stunned, knocked up, hooked, kited and otherwise peeled like normal -- which will often cause them to explode instantly because they invested so heavily in damage items while melee.

Hai somehow made it work in a couple of games against competent opposition, and I'll be very interested to see if he can keep it up (or if anyone else can pull it off at that level).

Vistha Kai8/12/2015, 11:04:26 PM2 votes

I love how Devourer(not even Sated) is the most cost effective item of them all on purchase. Then it only gets even more broken.

Sated Devourer?

Let's say the last thing I want to see on the enemy team is a jungler with BotRK and Sated Devourer. Can't run away, can't outsustain, can't itemize aganist.

Only Play Darius8/13/2015, 12:04:00 AM2 votes

Yes.

LadyRenly8/13/2015, 12:10:27 AM2 votes

Salted Devourer is balanced and fun

Ranger Azereth8/13/2015, 12:15:30 AM2 votes

I don't have a problem with the item, and if you gank and get a kill it's better than farming the jungle so if someone isn't ganking it's their fault and not the item. Do I think it makes certain champions a bit too viable? Yes probably. Yi and shyv mainly. I'd say if they can find a way around those outliers it's a good item that brings an interesting mechanic on board.

Karn Bishop8/13/2015, 1:27:19 AM2 votes

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I'd like to get people's opinions on sated. I think it makes multiple champs far too strong to be healthy. Its not even a late game item like its supposed to be. It's easily completed at 20 minutes. Yes, I understand that it has slight tradeoffs, more farming less ganking and whatnot. Overall though, I think it is currently immensely too powerful. can practically 1 shot squishies with ult and botrk. and several others can kill squishies in literally three or four auto attacks late game.

I hope Sated gets removed or massively nerfed. What do other people think?

Why does everyone list Xin as a good sated devourer user? he is the worst user of it, even worse then devourer volibear! and nobody ever lists vi, i guess that %max hp every 2 hits is terrible and not worth mentioning.

Fear Popo8/13/2015, 10:28:11 AM2 votes

Just checking, you know WW actually preferred old devourer to this one, right? His ult doesn't proc the double on hit, and the old one scaled higher in damage... so you claiming he can one shot squishies is somewhat fallacious. Also, jungle YI sells his devourer late game for another carry item, so again, not a great example. I'd say Xin, Shyv, and Kayle are its strongest users, and while they are certainly strong picks, none of those are S tier picks at the moment in actual high level play. I main Xin and have before sated was released, and while it was certainly a big buff, I don't feel like it broke him. I like the effort you have to put in to get to sated, especially in that it encourages both dragon and scuttle crab. It is far more healthy than feral flare for sure. I personally love it.

Zeus Jukem8/13/2015, 11:40:39 AM2 votes

XinZhao 3 or 4 auto attacks lmao more like 2

KrizalidKof998/13/2015, 2:37:59 PM2 votes

item 3931 + Warwick

gg surrender at 20

ZzEslIolZQ8/14/2015, 7:58:25 AM1 votes

You want feast or famine? 2 devourer junglers. One will be guaranteed worthless as the other will 1vs5 your team cause numbers.

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