A closer look: AP Varus (long)

Omiwom·6/6/2016, 7:58:34 AM·3 votes·941 views

Hi, I've achieved Mastery rank 5 onVarus by exclusively playing him AP, and I want to discuss the future and viability of this variant of Varus. First of all, I will say that I find AP Varus much more fun than AD Varus. I hope Riot will preserve it just as they preserved AD and AP Malzahar

Alright. Let's talk about Varus' identity. Varus is a man who borrowed a mysterious evil power. He has a single purpose to achieve before the power eats away at him completely: To take vengeance on the Noxians who slaughtered his village and family.

Now let's relate this to his playstyles. If you don't know a thing about AP Varus, here's the basic gist of it: you build up three stacks of Blight with your autos, then you detonate the stacks with your Q, E or R. The detonation damage of the Blight scales with AP and deals %maxHP. With enough AP, he will absolutely flatten anyone who stacks HP.

-AD Varus, the most popular Varus, is a very long range carry. He sits super far back and spams Q all day, stacking his tear. Overall a very low risk style with good reward.

-AP Varus needs to get in close to auto attack for Blight stacks, but damn does it pay off if you get three stacks to proc, especially in the late game. AP has a very weak early game, and a one-time nuke with his ult. It's a very risky style that requires good spacing from your enemies, and the reward is lower than AD Varus because he runs out of cooldowns to proc the blight. He can only do his big burst once every minute or so with his ult.

So why play him AP? Because a dangerous martyr of a man, even if he is an archer, should not be sitting 1000 units outside the fight spitting out one ability over and over. In fact, I think his Q is a misunderstood ability. It should be used to finish off stragglers who survive his initial burst, not spammed annoyingly to poke down enemies. On the other hand, AP Varus is perfectly aligned with his identity. He'll topple anyone in his way to get revenge, no matter how tanky, by using his corrupt power to destroy them in one big burst of evil. This is exactly what AP Varus does when he ults a target with three stacks of blight.

It's a healthy playstyle with counterplay AP Varus is very outplayable. You can flash all his abilities to stop the blight proc, or you can mess him up when he's stacking it on you. He only shreds health, Magic Resist makes things very hard for him. I would argue it's more healthy than AD Varus' play pattern of spamming Q.

So why isn't he viable? In a meta where a Maokai W or an Alistar combo spells death for an immobile squishy, and you've got Zed ,Fizz andEkko running around, it's just not practical to take three seconds to build up those Blight stacks within 600 range of the enemy. But that's okay.** AP Varus' play pattern doesn't need to change. He just needs clearer strengths.** Here are some suggestions:

  1. Leave everything the same, but remove blight's cap on monsters. The idea here is to make him an objective slaying monster, like Kalista or Kindred, but better. This one extreme strength will compensate for his vulnerability to being assassinated and impractical, slow burst pattern against champions.
  2. Increase maximum blight stacks to five. Emphasize his identity as the corrupt guy who will seriously mess you up if you let him stack that Blight.

Thanks to anyone who read, and I encourage you to try AP Varus in normals. It's a lot of fun and it would be really fun to watch if it was viable. My hope is that Riot will acknowledge the playstyle and nudge it into viability, like they did with AD Malzahar.

P.S. A good build for anyone trying this is item 3157 oritem 3001, then item 3285 item 3020 item 3089 Grab a item 3115 if your positioning is really good :p

4 Comments

Wolfess6/7/2016, 5:27:05 PM1 votes

I love AP Varus and yes, I agree that he feels like he'snever considered viable by others because what he does, he does best late-game after he has a good chunk of ap because as ap varus you really need ap to scale, and the more of it you have, the harder you scale due to it converting into percentages of an enemy's hp, no matter how much they have, rather than a percentage of your ad just boosting your own damage.

IMO AP Varus is an anti-tank/bruiser due to that hard CC root and a slow and yes, the Q is an excellent low-hp-target pickoff if they try to run away and especially if they have blight stacks while doing so. His ult QoL update REALLY gave him a better place with the addition of blight stacks building on ulted targets, making him spend less-time autoing and letting him proc blights faster on rooted targets since it IS his identity and it saves him time. Before, starting with ult was a really bad idea on full-hp targets as your ult is your nuke and % max hp on top of that, you could literally kill squishies on a 3-proc ult just like that. Now you can a least initiate ult, get off 2 autos, letting the ult stack a third one free, and proc with E or Q and potentially have the kill.

I really think item 3115 or potentially item 3091 can be core items on him since he is quite auto-atk reliant for his purposes. the more time you take getting 3 stacks, the easier it will be for your opponent to kill you. As a means to build some level of sustainability, I used to build item 3027 on him since it has decent stats all around once fully stacked and he does rely on a bit of mana. I don't believe I've tried him after mage update but I believe that RoA and perhaps item 3146 though I haven't tested it yet. The amount of heal you can get from procing blight on a tank could be decently impressive if I'm looking at it right, though it still feels mildly situational but I'm looking forward to trying it out in a normal or bot game.

oh yeah, if I remember right, you can literally have enough AP and magic pen to LITERALLY kill super minions on just 3 stacks and one proc, I think around 500-ish should do it, maybe a bit less.

Titanium706/7/2016, 6:01:43 PM1 votes

I'm a fan of AP Varus as well - played him alot in... S3?.. but since DFG got removed its kinda hard for him... He's not terrible, but there are alot of better choices - especially when looking for an AA based AP.

In term of Playstyle/Lore I#m totally with you - however, finishing of on long doesnt work with a 4s CD ability which tends to twoshot people. ^^' (It will always be spamed)

Instead of using him as an AP Mid, I thought about playing him as an AP Heavy Bot, starting with a Rageblade to use the early AD advantage if you have to much AD in your Team. (Yas/Zed Lanes for example)

But thats just a theory craft - I'd like to try this out.. but... the people.. <.< maybe I should search for Kog-Costume. x'D


On the otehr hand - Varus doesnt need much to become actually viable - An AP scaling on E would be enough.

EDIT: Ah I forgot: Dont even think about taking the DMG cap against monster away! You dont want a Lategame Varus two shoting Baron! Increase it - yeah, remove it - NO NO NO NO!

Nick Da Chip6/10/2016, 4:01:56 AM1 votes

I've been playing mainly AP varus for about a year now. I always read that he has a weak early game, but I don't see it that way. 3 autos and a Q with the right runes and masteries does quite a lot to any champ early game. You could argue that he has weak team fight presence early game though.

I've tried many different paths on him. It's really tough to get good with AP varus, and he is kind of easy to outplay if the enemy champion has flash or a dash/blink ability, but I don't think he isn't viable in the least.

I used to think going glass canon was the best way to build AP Varus, but after a lot of thinking and watching others play AP varus it seems like investing in a little defense is the best way to go. He already blows up squishy targets with his new ult and tanks don't bother him much mid to late game because of his base scalings on his W.

Does anyone play AP varus a lot? I find building ROA, then Berserkers, then Nashors is the best way to go. After that I usually go Rylai's, Abyssal, or hourglass depending on their team comp. Any advice from people who actually spend a lot of time with this champ would be nice.