Oh I'm carrying as a melee fighter?

DegenERICK·3/4/2018, 9:51:49 AM·3 votes·420 views

Time to get ulted with a point and click ability that deals 60% of my health (1100 damage) in teamfights by Garen

What a stupid fucking mechanic you guys, what a dumb fucking mechanic to lose a game to.

I'm not saying it's broken, it's just fucking pathetically stupid. Edit:

https://imgur.com/QOCEfxi

https://imgur.com/C3JgxVL

Just look at these two pictures, I went from 2150/3200 to 600/3200 in a single R hit.

A mechanic that punishes you for doing well. Pathetic.

14 Comments

ZephyrDrake3/4/2018, 9:54:06 AM2 votes

Garen QQ... i mean why not

Critmaster Garen3/4/2018, 11:04:30 AM2 votes

i dont think its even possible for the ability to deal 60% of someones health in damage. it would have to be a rank 3 ult to generate high enough base damage, and you have to be like 10 levels down on the garen. but then youre not carrying games and you have a different problem.

if it dealt 1100 damage, you were much lower health than that.

525 base damage on a rank 3 ult leaves 575 damage which equals 40% of your missing health. means you had ~1450 health missing at the time.

so you were clearly below 50% of your total health pool.

mystifyu3/4/2018, 11:21:07 AM2 votes

If your biggest worry about melee's is a Garen ult, then I guess melee's are in a pretty good state right now (which they are not (except a couple)) I also see no way a Garen Ult will deal 60% of someones health unless you are a million levels below him

SEKAI3/4/2018, 11:38:02 AM2 votes

Assuming you're the villian, or just have 0 resistance and Garen has maxed R.

If 1100HP is 60% of your full HP, then your full HP was at 1100/(0.6) = 1833.33.

For Garen's ulti to do 1100 damage, so 525 + x*0.4 = 1100, where x refers to the amount of MISSING health. So x = 1437.5.

In other words, you must have only 1833.33 - 1437.5 = 395.83 HP LEFT, assuming you're also the villain so it does true damage (or having 0 resistance so it basically does true damage), for the ulti to deal 1100 damage to you; which means you were already 1 step from death anyway, especially in later stages of the game, so not like it really matters.

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If you were not the villian, or that you have some resistances, and here let's assume you have 100 MR, since you said you were a fighter.

It means the damage multiplier the damage receives upon contact is 100/(100+100) = 0.5. So Garen's ulti damage would be halved.

So in other words, Garen's ulti must've dealt 1100*2 = 2200 for it to have 1100 damage on you.

525+x*0.4 = 2200 => where x is solved to be 4187.5, which is impossible because that means you need to lose more than twice of your own max HP (1833.33 as calculated before) for them to do that damage.

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I wouldn't think there would be that much difference to calculate for the cases of un-maxed R because it will probably just return more cases where you have to lose more HP than your max before Garen can deliver the amount of damage on your HP bar then proposed in this test case.

So yeah, based on these calculations, I wouldn't say at least in this case, Garen was being too oppressive.

Ahri Baka3/4/2018, 1:05:26 PM1 votes

So your problem as a melee carry is another melee ? Also , can I ask what was the champion you were playing ?

Dead flag blues3/4/2018, 2:59:15 PM1 votes

I really hate this new passive. It's really unfair to be rewarded for losing against your opponent imo