Here's the problem(s) with Bronze players.

Kixcticia·3/1/2017, 9:59:15 AM·82 votes·18,994 views

I've been playing League of Legends for a vast 7 years now, and over the course of this expense amount of time, I've witnessed all mistakes that Bronze players have in common. No, this is not a hate thread, think of it more as a, positive reinforcement to try help some players out.

Issue 1: They never listen to advice given to them. Not to be a biased asshole, but this seems to be the biggest problem. It seems that 80% of bronze players aren't willing to take a fellow teammates advice, which, could ironically be the difference between winning and losing a game. 2 minds are better than one.

**Issue 2: They always sway away from recommended builds way to far. **No, i'm not stating that building away from the recommended page is a bad idea, but you shouldn't go redemption on Urgot for example. I see this way too frequent, not the Urgot, but people trying out builds that aren't quite "good".

Issue 3: They over extend, A LOT. I feel like this is a map awareness issue. Bronze players have the mindset, to my understanding and personal experience at least, that they think that their team is right beside them when they go in. A good tip, is to look at your mini-map once every 10-15 seconds. Once you get used to this, do it every 5 seconds. It'll become muscle memory and will cause you to die twice as less.

Issue 4: They constantly make the same mistakes over and over again. Think of this as the definition of insanity. You see your Gnar top lane go up with no towers, and starts pushing up the wave and dying over and over again. He doesn't seem to think about what he's doing. This could also trying to 1v1 the fed enemy Vayne over and over again, when all you do is die to her 1 on 1. Doesn't seem logical to try it again, does it? Get a teammate to help you shut her down instead.

Issue 5: They focus on kills, instead of objectives. I feel like I'm playing Team Deathmatch in Call of Duty when playing in low elo games. The game isn't set on kills. Yes, they help tremendously, but the game is centered around a very specific set of things, those being towers, map awareness, teamwork, communication, Dragons/baron, and obviously the Nexus itself. All of these things I've listened make winning the game a hell of a lot easier.

**Issue 6: They over extend, and/or over chase.**I believe this might be the biggest problem in lower elo. People chase a Teemo because he's low, but little do they know, his teammates are sitting in a bush waiting to kill them. This is why map control is important, doesn't mean you should still chase, however. Also, the over extending, causes you to get ganked a lot more frequently. You can look up how to freeze lanes and push when necessary on YouTube, i'm sure. Another thing, being over staying. Don't take more than you can chew, grab the turret/baron/dragon while you got it, then take your leave. No need to be greedy.

**Issue 7: Their cs is normally around 80 at 20 minutes, if not less. ** Csing is a really important aspect in League of Legends. If your lane is ahead of you by 3 kills to your 0, but they have 50 cs to your 150, you're technically ahead of her, gold wise. Also, if you're against an awful matchup, then just focus on cs as well, no point in getting yourself killed for no reason.

**Issue 8: They play champions that are too difficult for their skill level.**Champions like Draven Yasuo Vayne LeeSin for example. (This is a totally BIASED opinion.) Stick to something simple, which has a lot of damage, and is easy to master, like MasterYi Annie Garen Ashe Malzahar for example. No need to make things harder on yourself by trying out "OP" champions. Issue 9: They don't pay enough attention to the mini-map. I stated this point previously, try to look at your mini-map every 10-15 seconds, then once that becomes a habit, try to look at it every 5 seconds, if not less. Knowing where the enemy team is INCREDIBLY important, I cannot even fathom how important this is.

Issue 10: They play to many games when their on a losing streak. If you're tilted from a few bad games, take a break, watch TV, or go outside. I personally go outside, and skate for an hour, come back, and I feel like a whole new person. If you're at a 3 loss streak, stop. There's no point, you're mindset is just going be negative going into the game, unless, you're just inhuman.

Issue 11: They don't think before they act. This can lead into various scenarios, one being that you're at 150 HP, and you really want to flash and kill the enemy Caitlyn , but they end up healing anyways, and in return, get yourself killed. Knowing when enemies summoner spells are down is pretty important to keep note on. You can always look on Google, the timers for each summoner spell. Just using that as an example, for there are hundreds.

Issue 12: They don't itemize according to enemy team compositions. You shouldn't pick Rammus on a full AP enemy team composition, for example. Doesn't make much sense. Another point, is to check who is doing well on their team as well. If there's a 0/16 Ahri with 1 item, compared to a 11/0 Caitlyn , you would obviously build against what Caitlyn is building, instead of building Magic Resist against the Ahri.

There are a few other points I could go on about, but those are the most frequent of the bunch. Please be sure to comment down below if you have any questions/concerns about a point I've stated out.

182 Comments

Duke Anax3/1/2017, 12:38:45 PM16 votes

Issue 13: They take Barron then start a teamfight especially when behind. "guys we have Barron, let's kill'em all!" (issue 5) No, just NO. Barron is a pushing/sieging buff not a fighting buff. But it only works in a lane that has a champion with the buff in it. the best use of the buff is to put a champion ich each lane and push as much as possible, without overextending (issue6)

ThePikol3/1/2017, 12:20:39 PM14 votes

Issue 1: They never listen to advice given to them.

You are his teammate, so the same or close rank. Why would he assume you know better than him? Don't get me wrong, I sometimes give advices my teammates too (like telling my adc to get item 3123 because enemy have 3/4 healing champs), but I get why they shouldn't listen. Let them learn on their own.

Issue 2: They always sway away from recommended builds way to far.

I was in Bronze 1,5 season and never saw something like that. I would even say the opposite, they copy pro build while not knowing why they build specific items.

Issue 3: They over extend, A LOT.

True

Issue 4: They constantly make the same mistakes over and over again.

So much true

Issue 5: They focus on kills, instead of objectives.

I can't handle the truth!

Issue 7: Their cs is normally around 80 at 20 minutes, if not less.

I usually get the most farm, but I woudn't say theirs is THAT terrible.

Issue 8: They play champions that are too difficult for their skill level.

I see Vayne, Yasuo and Lee almost every game and as much I would like to not see them that foten, some of them are good. I think it's not like "Bronze players shouldn't play this champ" but more like "play a lot and you will be good at him"

Issue 10: They play to many games when they're on a losing streak.

Isn't it a problem in all elos?

Fegone3/1/2017, 3:31:43 PM6 votes

Issue 10: They play to many games when their on a losing streak

Teemo Teemo TRIGGERED Teemo Teemo

Nylisa3/2/2017, 12:26:05 AM5 votes

as a new player (still level 12) who haven't made it to competitive yet , this taught me a lot of things , thank you.

Skorch3/1/2017, 11:17:35 AM4 votes

What if i dont do like MOST of these but am still bronze. ;-;

Strilter3/1/2017, 9:11:20 PM4 votes

Ummm this is the problem with ALL players.... sure the farther up you go the more likely you might find an open minded person.... but I've seen diamond and plat and higher as fucking ignorant, and close minded as a cesspool 4 player. Those players also think they can get away with everything because they consistently do not respect their opponent, because they assume they are better. Their Macro and Micro is amazing but their decision making is outright terrible, the majority of their success comes from the fact they outplay mechanically consistently, or their team bails them out. (which they should) But honestly this problem isn't isolated in bronze.

Spoofghoul3/1/2017, 6:57:21 PM3 votes

Im gold, actually im not sure what rank im at havent played ranked since mid season 5.

Anyway this applies to about 80% of my teammates and heres the funny part, they have gold, platinum, diamond and master borders

sometimes really makes drop my jaw, how can you reach such levels and not have the basics under control.

I swear i see the average gold/plat play on bronze level just with better cs thats all

So for all you bronzies out there, just make sure to practice cs and try to get 75-100 per 10 minutes and you might make it all the way to platinum without learning anything else

SwiftKitten883/2/2017, 12:24:02 AM3 votes

the thing is one during my 16 game winstreak to climb out of bronze.. i had one game where i literally felt so honored to have my team.. and it was really just for 1 small thing.

we were winning we pushed in.. we took an inhib and then EVERY PLAYER backed out of the base and rotated to a different objective. without ANY PINGS or ANY CHAT.

that one small thing was probably the best moment i had ever had playing league in over 4 years.

Jyoeru3/1/2017, 10:16:55 AM3 votes

Taking advice is hard when most people don't offer objective advice or seem to know what they're talking about. Lots of meta flaming takes place in Bronze. People will tell you what you're doing "wrong" because they saw it on moba or a stream or a video or here, but they don't necessarily know why their advice is good or bad, or why what you're doing is good or bad.

Frequently, players will pop off with advice that's more some idealism they've picked up based on what they want to do and how you're going to enable them to do it, which can also result in poor outcomes. If you're a 0/5/1 WW jg telling me what I am doing wrong at 1/2/4, I am a lot less likely to even read what you've said than if you're a 5/1/0 of the same. Frequently, the people who offer this advice are people who are so far behind themselves that they really come off (and end up) as trying to blame everyone else for why they've lost the game at 5mins than realizing their own flaws and so on.

Dealth3/2/2017, 5:29:49 AM2 votes

Not everything is a mistake. Most of them just need some more practice because they only play casually or are new to the game.

AetherPhoenix3/2/2017, 8:10:41 AM2 votes

Thanks for posting these tips/issues! I'm in bronze II and these have helped me realise what I'm doing wrong. I think i do 1,2,8, 10, and 12 okay, but the others i need to work on a LOT. Especially paying attention to the minimap - I suck at that. Once again, thank you for helping me work out my big mistakes. Hopefully I'll be able to climb a bit now :)

BBag0hxULG3/1/2017, 10:02:26 AM2 votes

I know what I do wrong, I just can't seem to grasp it and take control of it, ya know? I do shit without even realizing it, very informational post though, I learned a few things.

Taco12PackPeaces3/1/2017, 10:08:09 AM2 votes

Safe to say i'm guilty of 5 of these lol.

Zexvain3/1/2017, 10:12:50 AM2 votes

This shit is in Gold elo mmr to man, I can't stand it any fucking more.

Serika Zero3/1/2017, 12:10:08 PM2 votes

Issue 1: They never listen to advice given to them.

this extends beyond bronze. Don't know how many times I've tried to explain basic games rules to a few players (around bronze or medium or low silver) and I'm getting constant bullshit from them about how they know better and they are the best and they did everything until now on their own and how i'm an idiot because i don't feel the same way they do and that math is for losers and that they don't care if xxxx is not efficient........

SwiftKitten883/1/2017, 2:32:59 PM2 votes

everything you said in the OP is 100% correct

i actually made a similar thread to this

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/0TiAyEMn-strategy-of-league-how-to-climb

Alex h87213/1/2017, 7:25:42 PM2 votes

The CS point though, so accurate ESPECIALLY when it comes to the Jungle. I main jungle in bronze and I've noticed so much of the time that if I just farm up a storm, and only go to gank lanes when its a very juicy opportunity etc, I will end up w/ much more gold and possibly a level or even 2 on the enemy Jungler who is not full clearing his jungle before trying to force ganks.

Seriously though, I think its maybe 1 out of 6-7 enemy junglers I see in this elo that even come close to keeping up with my CS, and having that level 11 (2nd rank ultimate) in teamfights/ganks/objective contests vs the level 10 enemy jg is a very significant advantage.

I don't lane that often but I've seen that something similar will happen in lane where players are too focused on trading/getting that in lane 1st blood, that if a laner plays safe avoiding death and farming up, they will come back to lane after 1st or 2nd back considerably stronger than the guy who hasn't been focused on CS.

Ambient Snow3/1/2017, 7:56:48 PM2 votes

yea done enough of these. they make sense but no one cares to read them

xScarfy3/1/2017, 10:38:54 PM2 votes

“Issue 1: They never listen to advice given to them.“ So true...I once was supporting a Varus and the eneny botlane had a Lucian and a Soraka. A little fight started and they ended up killing us, because the Soraka was doing a good job on keeping Lucian alive, so I said to Varus “Focus Soraka or she will just heal up every dmg we do to Lucian“ and his reponse was “Muted“! I just gave him an advise and he muted me because of this? Well, we lost our lane...

Solidarius3/2/2017, 5:18:15 AM2 votes

nice advice but, they are bronze for a reason.

There is nothing wrong with being a Bronze player, A lot of vets of this game forget that this is only just a game and take it way 2 seriously sometimes.

Sometimes I try to 1v1 the fed vayne because I want to "outplay" her, even if i fail it is still "worth" it.

I could go on and on, but there is no point,

let them be bronze, if they want to learn they will.

2many people in this game CARE so much about winning or losing, I have lost games where I had a score of something like 22-0-0 and I was Honestly HAPPY/Satisfied at the end of the game, and I have won games where I did nothing and had a terrible score like 2-10-0 and felt like SHIT even though it was a Victory.

I know I am only a Silver "nub" but I can tell you with 100% certainty id rather be Bronze 5 as long as I have "fun" than be a "Challenger" and be stressed out each and every game

but hey... thats just my opinion on whats wrong with "higher level players"

yyyyourself4/2/2018, 2:09:08 AM1 votes

Im a bronze player and i always feed. how come thats not one of the issues

Kanzler6/13/2019, 2:32:03 AM1 votes

I see half of that shit in my gold games.

Bigkittiepoop6/13/2019, 2:36:09 AM1 votes

Bronze players and i mean all of them troll and will never improve. Reason is because they honestly believe if they win, they have to be the ones to carry them to the win. Its pretty disgusting if you ask me and they make all the mistakes posted in the OP all of em. Any bronze players that claims they only do a certain ammount of mistakes are just proving my point. In their eyes they have the ability to carry every game or they rather lose. Its repulsive even when you throw perfect math at them, they disregard the universal fact that math never lies. Bronze silver and up to gold 4 are quite literally what is wrong with this game. They claim to not care about winning but yet play ranked where it all about being competitive regardless of their delusional thought process. You will never climb out with the mentality that you are better than all players you meet. CLEARLY YOU ARE NOT