Riot, Is there any possibility that Mordekaiser could be reverted to his pre-rework kit?

Pïco de Galio·10/29/2016, 1:59:13 AM·19 votes·2,054 views

Back when Mordekaiser was not reworked, I mained him mid lane and had a blast playing him as a counter to assassins and just in general loved his kit and play style, but this all changed with his rework, which made his kit awful for the mid lane. He became an OP bot laner with clunky mechanics, then he was nerfed into oblivion and changed so he is now a top laner and is essentially in the same exact spot he was in pre-rework if not worse (has 70+ bugs, weird mechanics such as getting additional exp in duo lanes and dragon clone). With all this in mind, would you ever even consider reverting Mordekaiser back to his former self, similar to how you did with Kog'Maw? I just think that old Mordekaiser was honestly more healthy for the game than his current iteration, but if not they are even and it would give old Mordekaiser players the satisfaction of having him back. All I'm asking is that is it even a possibility? You say that you reverted Kog'Maw for not hitting the mark you wanted and Mordekaiser didn't either, since he was made to be a bot lane champ and is now a top laner / jungler. Maybe revert him to his former glory until you design a new rework that might put him where you want him to be? All I'm asking is that is it even a possibility or are you happier with current Mordekaiser moreso than old Mordekaiser? I just can't see how because at least old Mordekaiser was played in the lane(s) that he was designed for (solo lanes).

TL;DR: Old Mordekaiser was arguably less flawed (played in his intended lanes, less frustrating mechanics, etc.) than his current iteration and was wondering if him being reverted (like Kog'Maw) is a possible consideration?

38 Comments

Mordepool10/29/2016, 2:46:03 AM7 votes

Revert isn't the best option. Look forward.

DunkinNoobs10/29/2016, 6:50:28 AM2 votes

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less frustrating mechanics, etc.)

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Dengeden10/29/2016, 12:04:56 PM2 votes

The old Morde was win lane - lose game. How was that healthy? The only time I ever saw a Morde win was when my jungler fed him.

Jeddy01710/29/2016, 9:04:29 AM2 votes

Meddler already made a comment on this.

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The big factor in reverting Kog was that he was in a pretty healthy, pretty unique state before hand. We thought we could improve that further. That didn't work out, so we're going back to things that have been demonstrated to work appropriately.

There are certainly other updates that haven't hit the mark as hoped, Morde in particular. The difference there though is that old Morde also had a bunch of issues, some of which the update did improve even if it added some others.

That's why they choose not to revert Morde. It's best to just wait for his inevitable VGU.

FizzChummedINami10/29/2016, 2:21:44 AM2 votes

If they do change mord I'm sure it won't be anytime soon with all of the new changes for the new season and everything else they are working on.

BoilTheOil10/29/2016, 7:20:29 AM1 votes

what they can do to keep him from being annoying is nerf e base damage but buff scaling or something like that and there we go

MoFo Jones10/29/2016, 10:33:27 AM1 votes

His W is the sole reason I hate playing Morde now. Go to lolwiki - there's a 5 paragraph essay containing his W skill description. The old W was so much better and easier/fun. Now you require an ally to be nearby and certain interactions between you and him to occur. FUK THAT BS.

GULAG 4 U10/29/2016, 11:31:35 AM1 votes

Mordekaiser relies on rushing rylai's and he has health costs when he has 0 way to regain it beofre level 6 without popping ult. If he was reverted he would certainly be god tier or trash tier.

GULAG 4 U10/29/2016, 7:19:45 PM1 votes

Because old mordekaiser wasn't healthy. Old Kog'maw was.

The Yetii Rider10/30/2016, 12:06:10 AM1 votes

Can't revert models after they've been changed, we found that out when they ruined Steel Legion Garen.

From a balance perspective a reversion might have some problems but from an art perspective it would be a nightmare.

Knifecat Reborn10/29/2016, 2:55:03 AM1 votes

Upvote.

Hige10/29/2016, 3:43:46 AM1 votes

there's no reason why you can't go mid mordekaiser, specially against assassins:

http://champion.gg/champion/Mordekaiser/Middle

50% winrate exactly, that's the epitome of balance even though win rate is but a number, in this case it's a very good one.

WiegrafOfValor10/29/2016, 3:57:49 AM1 votes

Make a pool brother!

And yes, I want old Morde back.. I think old Mordekaiser + Passive Scaling with HP will make Mordekaiser great again.

TheHappyReaperz10/29/2016, 5:10:47 AM1 votes

A Morde thread without MM? What has the world come to?