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Spring 2016 Starters Discussion + Week 1 Analysis (Who Do You Start Week 2?)

Nural·1/18/2016, 6:56:24 PM·5 votes·3,212 views

Hi there!

Ok, so the purpose of this forum is exactly what the title describes, to help people set up their best line up possible heading into the next week of games. We've all experienced a moment where we are choosing between two players, not sure which one will have the better turn-out with regards to their current match-ups, their record, if their on a losing streak, new subs of the team, etc. This can now become a place where the fantasy community can help each other out with their rosters so that they are receiving their full potential each and every week. This can also be a place to discuss possible Add/Drop possibilities. Anyway, everyone can understand the purpose behind this forum now.

Just simply post a question about who you are deciding between, along with your reasonings behind why you should and shouldn't start them. Then hopefully a fellow fantasy community member will be able to respond and help you make your decision. Anyone can help out! Multiple opinions and beliefs are better than just one! Remember, Strength in numbers.

Disclaimer: Human beings cannot foresee the future, everything posted on here are just calculated predictions/opinions.

Hopefully this now provides a means for all of us as a community to help each other in achieving the glorious 1st place spot in your respected leagues, along with the entitled sensation of "Bragging Rights." Best of luck to all of you! #FantasyLCS #DecisionsAreHard

Week 1 Analysis

OK Everybody. Week 1 Fantasy LCS can be summarized by the following equation: NA > EU.

By simply looking at the stats, NA players dominated the top of the stats sheet this week, and that shouldn't shock people. Week 1 NA was a bloodbath to be had by all. Where as EU played a very conservative, cautious play style.

However. this is just the first week. Teams are only just beginning to learn how to work and cooperate with these new roster changes, so we should try our hardest to not take these week 1 results at face value. This is just the start of the split. Its important to think in the long term here. The most prominent example of this is Origen. There week 1 was...underwhelming to say the least, And newer fantasy owners will make the mistake of dropping POE for Shiptur because of Week 1 scoring.

TD:LR If you have a team that, historically speaking, is a strong, consistent team, but they failed hard in week 1, DONT DROP THEM! They will come back in due time.

TD:LR 2: Any early trades you make in these first three weeks must be viewed in the long term mind set.

Sleepers Week 2

OG:

I have to put them in here so I can give my two cents about them. OG had a rough week 1. But that can be explained by two things: they, supposedly, had internet issues leading up to the games and were unable to practice with one another, and that they are all adjusting to the POE roster change. I have much higher hopes this week now that they got the first couple of losses out of the way. They now have this entire week to work and build confidence around one another. They face an two untested teams, VIT and UOL. While the 2-0 UOL seems scary, know that UOL had a VERY easy week 1 in retrospect, and that OG will be a true test for them. Have Faith OG Fans. OG will put up more of a fight this time.

C9

I dont know if this necessarily counts as a sleeper, but know that C9 have a very nice schedule ahead of them this week facing off against both CLG and TIP. By the looks of it, TIP is a strong contender for NA "Punching-Bag" this split. While C9 are 1-1, they showed a lot of potential in week 1, and expect them to capitalize in week 2 against these weaker teams.

REN

Renegades had an alright week for themselves, considering they went up against NRG and TL last week. They were able to score 30+ points against two of the upper end teams. And now this week, they face two, lower end teams (DIG and TIP). DIG is still a sloppy team, and TIP is...well...TIP. Not saying you should choose renegades over that of TSM or IM, but if you are in a pickle and need a stand-in player, renegades have easy week in retrospect. For the record, freeze got 48 points. If he's still available... you should pickem up ;)

G2

These guys came out swinging and I LOVE IT. Granted it was against lower level teams, but they were able to handle themselves fairly well. Now they face H2K and Giants. H2K will be a bit more of a challenge for G2, but they should have no issues against that of Giants. If they are able to beat that of H2K, G2 could be a HUGE threat this split. If you aren't sure of wanting to start a G2 player, make sure he's at least on your bench this week in hopes they beat the snot out of H2K and GIANTS this week.

The "FUNTASY" League

For all of those who are participating in a Funtasy League, Here comes your new, week 2 constraint! So far, we've had...

_Week 1: Who ever had the most kills won. _

**Week 2's constraint is "The Checkerboard": ** This is a roster constraint. This week, you must set up your roster in such that your roster is alternating players from both NA and EU regions. (Including Team Slot!)

EX: Top: EU Player Jungle: NA Player Mid: EU Player ADC: NA Player (So on So Forth)

You can have it set up so you have a NA Top as well, but the roster must be alternating regions down the line.

The team with the most points this week wins the matchup!

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GL GL!

Nural

52 Comments

Asgadaf1/21/2016, 8:30:49 AM2 votes

I just wanted to say that your sleeper analogy was the best and most hilarious thing ever! Keep up the good work man, you're the best!

Pheeder1/18/2016, 10:12:59 PM1 votes

Pretty simple question here, I've got a 50/50 eu/na distribution, just contemplating who I want to start in top lane this week, I've got Huni and Soaz in my lineup. Only conflicting matchup I have is with Huni, I have Yellowstar as my starting support.

TheYungSensei1/19/2016, 12:09:40 AM1 votes

Week 1 was abysmal for me. My entire team combined for 149.80 pts, and only one player broke 30 pts: Darshan. Please help me out for Week 2.

My Team:

Top: Darshan Jung: Svenskeren Mid: PowerOfEvil ADC: Zven Supp: YellOwStaR Flex: Hjarnan Team: Origen Alt: Jankos, Nukeduck, Vizicsacsi

Opponent's Team:

Top: Odoamne Jung: Airwaks Mid: Febiven ADC: Doublelift Supp: Mithy Flex: GBM Team: Fnatic Alt: Steve, Steeelback, IWDominate

Free Agents (ordered by pts scored last week):

Top: Smittyj, Lourlo, Kikis, RF Legendary, fredy122, kfo, Atom, Wunderwear, Feng Jung: Trick, Kirei, Xmithie, Diamondprox, Crumbz, Hard, Gilius, Moon, Shook, k0u, Trashy, Procxin Mid: Shiphtur, Perkz, Alex Ich, Eika, Betsy, xPePii, Sencux, Pirean ADC: Freeze, FORG1VENGRE, Stixxay, Apollo, MrRalleZ, Safir, Adryh, Kobbe, Mash Supp: Kiwikid, Remi, Hybrid, sprattel, Smoothie, Noxiak, Big, Edward, Nisbeth, G0DFRED, Gate Teams: UOL, NRG, G2, REN, CLG, VIT, ROC, DIG, EL, FOX, GIA, SPY, TIP

Any and all feedback is appreciated. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Udonian1/19/2016, 12:17:40 AM1 votes

Lost by ~15pts last week, OG and VIT screwed me :( This week's matchup is even tougher, but I have a chance if TSM does poorly.

Top: SmittyJ vs Huni Jungle: Jankos vs Svenskeren Mid: Jensen vs Bjergsen ADC: Wildturtle vs Sneaky Support: Kiwikid vs Aphromoo Flex: Zven vs Piglet Team: H2K vs TSM

Bench: Soaz, Mithy, Shiphtur

Dragondisiple1/19/2016, 1:29:27 AM1 votes

kinda just looking for reassurance for this week.

Top: Vizicsacsi Jungle: Trick Mid: Fenix ADC: Sneaky Support: Yellowstar Team: Immortals Flex: Freeze

Bench: Darshan, Pobelter, Amazing

think OG will do better this week to put in Amazing? Also i know Fenix got 2 loses but he got more points them Pobelter even if he won both games. Who you think i should start?

Thank you in Advance!

0verheated1/19/2016, 8:29:36 AM1 votes

Hey Nural,

Thanks for doing this again this season :). I had an unlucky week 1 because I had Impact but he didn't play Day 1, an I ended up losing by about 10 points :( This week I think I have a pretty good team but I wanted to ask you some questions first. My current roster is :

Top: Kikis Jungle: Reignover Mid: Febiven Adc: Doublelift Support: Adrian Flex: Emperor Team: TSM

Bench: Impact, Pobelter, Spirit

I don't know if I should drop Doublelift or Emperor. The available ADC agents are: Rekkles, Freeze, Altec, Hjarnan, and Steelback. Do you think I should change my roster? If so, who do you think I should drop and pick up?

Thanks, 0verheated

ghost puppeteer1/19/2016, 1:37:27 PM1 votes

Hey I'm looking for some advice!

RF Legendary or Impact? Amazing or Trick? Bjergsen Piglet Vander or Noxiak? Jesen C9

Thanks =)summoner 13

FreakChaos1/19/2016, 2:24:00 PM1 votes

hi NURAL, it's me haha.. I need some advice going in week 2 my roster top Odoamne or Soaz jungler Rush mid Ryu or POE adc Wildturtle sp Konkwon or MIthy flex Freeze team OG (is it ok to pick this?)

**available **
top : fredy, steve, cabochard, rf legendary, gamsu, lourlo, wunderwear, kikis and smithyj mid : betsy, pepi, fenix, alex ich, pobelter,sencux, perkz, eika, fox, huhi and shiptur adc : mrrallez, adryh, kobbe, altec, emperor, rekkles, apollo, keth, stixxay, steeelback safir and mash sp : kasing, smoothie, godfred, vander, nisbeth, hylissang, kiwikid, edward, hai, noxiak, hybrid the team available : RNG, C9, EL, Liquid, G2, H2K, NRG, CLG, ROCCAT and UOL
i'm not very sure for top, mid, and sp

my opponents top Hauntzer jungler Amazing mid Febiven adc Zven sp Adrian flex Spirit team VIT alts Darshan, GBM and Forg1vengre

i hope you can help me bc last week i lost too much points to OG roster and Kasing

FreakChaos1/19/2016, 2:37:46 PM1 votes

hi NURAL, this is my 2nd league. hope you will help me this my roster https://gyazo.com/d11bce435fa6c5f06fbb2acd0c914f49

available players: top : fredy, steve, balls, rf legendary, vizicsacsi, lourlo, wunderwear, kikis and smithyj jg : trick, moon, airwaks, kirei and IWD mid : jensen, betsy, pepi, fenix, alex ich, nukeduck, pobelter,sencux, perkz, eika, huhi and shiptur adc : freeze, piglet, mrrallez, adryh, kobbe, altec, emperor, rekkles, apollo, keth, stixxay, steeelback safir and mash sp : smoothie, godfred, vander, nisbeth, hylissang, kiwikid, edward, hai, noxiak, konkwon, hybrid the team available : RNG, FNC, EL, Liquid, VIT, G2, H2K, NRG, CLG, ROCCAT and UOL

i'm not sure to let go POE to take Jensen or Alex Ich or Fenix or is it worth it to let go POE? the team also not very sure

my opponent https://gyazo.com/3d725023f7d9e00f89bc6abbced377dc

Typhon1/19/2016, 2:43:26 PM1 votes

Crumbz. My thoughts. season 5 he prioritised vision over position and he was severely punished for it with the relegation of dignitas. he doesn't have a high mechanical skill like other junglers (looking at you rush) or terrific pathing choices (chaser in the korean scene, srsly fuck him its like inbuilt map hacks for his brain).

however.....

With the removal of "vision" in season 6 i honestly believe that crumbz could be an undervalued sub. he values vision he nearly always builds sightstone and constantly works on deep vision. he could be the reason renegades succeed.

I'm curious if anyone decide to try some sabermetrics and pick their team based off kills assists and how safe they play.

FreakChaos1/19/2016, 2:47:30 PM1 votes

hi NURAL this is my 3rd league this lineup is all NA, because all the EU got taken this is my roster https://gyazo.com/7d892318dd16e3da02f7430bd99b6b69

from this is it worth to trade POE or Jensen with Fenix, Alex Ich, Nukeduck & Fox? for the ADC available : Zven, Altec, Hjarnan, Rekkles, Apollo, Keith & SteeelBack do i need to grab Zven and change with Freeze? the team available : RNG, FNC, EL, VIT, OG, G2, NRG, UOL, CLG?

my opponent https://gyazo.com/33ad05cfa72f8bd70bc192a2b6e1909d

hope to win big time tq

Welc0meH0me1/19/2016, 2:57:33 PM1 votes

First off, great forum and thank you for doing this. People never rememeber that you took your own time to make this. Well done!

Secondly, I have a question.

My roster is: (8 man league) Top: Huni Jung: Amazing Mid: Pobelter ADC: Piglet Sup: Hylissang Flex: Altec Team: NRG

Bench: Shiphtur, KiwiKid , Trick

So thoughts on Kiwi instead of Hylissang? I feel with Apollo Kiwi has so much potential now. Also, I saw you say how OG was having internet issues so I will probably stick with Amazing.

Then the big thing, I am currently trying to trade. A member in the league is in need for a support and I proposed trading Pobelter and Hylissang for Bjerg. Do we think this will become a good trade if he excepts?

Thanks again!

FreakChaos1/19/2016, 3:00:14 PM1 votes

hi NURAL my last league.. hehe my roster https://gyazo.com/69318154f0ba250fe031c4826a2b9ce2 alts : altec, adrian, huni available: Freeze, Jensen, Betsy, Alex Ich, Emperor, Rekkles

Team : RNG, FNC, EL, Liquid, OG, VIT, G2, NRG, CLG, ROCCAT and UOL

my opponent alts : soaz, spirit, hjarnan

tq NURAL

growlithe12341/19/2016, 6:08:21 PM1 votes

not sure if this was a right move, but I traded fenix (tl) for perkz (g2) I know fenix did pretty good this week in terms of fantasy points, but team liquid is using a 10 man roster, so they could have problems with synergy, and fenix could theoretically be benched for their other mid laner in the second game. g2 has a good matchup against giants, and while I think h2k is a hard matchup, and will probably lose, I think it will be a long match, which should mean better points. Let me know what you guys think in terms of the trade.

Zalker1/19/2016, 7:05:42 PM1 votes

What do you think about Dignitas? Shiphtur was the highest scorer last week, but is he going to keep up those points?

My Roster:

Impact Amazing/Trick GBM/Shiphtur Zven/Wildturtle Mithy/Kiwikid G2

Right now, I have Impact, Trick, GBM, Turtle, Kiwi, Shiphtur and G2 starting. But Perkz and Hybrid are both available. I feel secure with Impact and GBM, but the OG question marks week one hurt. Are Perkz and Hybrid better than Shiphtur and Kiwikid? Perkz and Hybrid are new and relative question marks against better teams, but Dignitas actually scoring points is new too :p

Thanks for any advice you can give me! I'll be sure to make it for your stream if I can!

Shéén1/19/2016, 9:54:21 PM1 votes

Just had a question on whether i should trade freeze for sneaky? also i have soaz but am trying to trade Fenix for Impact with GBM as my other midlaner

Nural1/20/2016, 4:00:03 AM1 votes

SORRY FOR BEING AFK FROM THE DISCUSSION, BEEN VERY BUSY WITH GETTING BACK INTO THE NEW SEMESTER. Forgive me!!! <3

However, I do want to remind people that tomrrow will be the start of my Fantasy LCS Show!!! :D

Tune in at 8 PM Central!

(I promise to answer questions once I get settled in.)

<3

FreakChaos1/20/2016, 7:14:19 AM1 votes

Wildturtle or Forgivenre or Freeze Which to flex or to main roster? thanks!

FreakChaos1/20/2016, 7:24:36 AM1 votes

Zven or Doublelift or Freeze? Currently in my roster Doublelift and Freeze. Is worth the pickup for Zven?

Kelkador1/20/2016, 7:55:53 AM1 votes

Critique my team. Reasons for my pick-ups/reasons for me not choosing them is in parenthesis. Starters:

Top: Huni (Can't go wrong)

Jungle: Airwaks (Roccat has a super easy week)

Mid: Jensen (Vs. TiP, enough said)

ADC: Forg1ven (Seems like the #1 western ADC in week 1, even if he didn't generate the most points out of all of them)

Support: Vander (Support for a good team, tons of other supports already taken)

Flex: Freeze (Renegades may have the easiest week in the NA LCS possible(?))

Team: Renegades (Ditto)

Alternates:

Jungle: Xmithie (Holding him for what should be a great week 3 for CLG)

Mid: Huhi (Ditto)

Team: Immortals (Gonna start them almost every other week, but they are facing two teams this week they can't completely stomp on paper)

Notable Bench Warmers (Free Agents):

Top: Balls (I know he'll stomp TiP, but I have doubts of him against Darshan)

Jungle: Moon (Not sure how he will perform vs IMT) Trick (Airwaks' week is way easier in comparison)

Mid: XPepii (0-2 start isn't too strong) Alex Ich (If I add another Renegades player and they perform poorly, I will get burned)

ADC: WildTurtle (Despite his stellar week one I think he will generate less points then Forg1ven and Freeze this week)

Support: Mithy (Completely unsure of future performances)

Team: Origen (0-2 isn't a good start)

Give me any criticism you have with my line-up. :)

Obitoitachi1011/21/2016, 12:03:53 AM1 votes

Hey Nural,

I want to say that I am a big fan of your fantasy analysis and you helped a lot during the summer fantasy split (I lost but the point deficit would've greater). I was hoping to get an opinion for my week 2 lineup.

As of right now it's: Top: Balls (C9) Jungle: Trick (G2) Mid: Betsy (ROC) ADC: Rekkless (FNC) Supp: Remi (REN) Flex: Wildturtle (IMT)

Bench: Ryu (May be traded for PoE) Gamsu Hybrid

I feel like it is strong (sans Betsy who is getting subbed for Ryu or PoE) but it's always nice to get a second opinion.

Thanks!

GP Ulted Japan1/18/2016, 9:48:45 PM1 votes

Hey im looking for some advice! Tell me what you think of my line up and who I should put in as my flex please! Right now i have:

Top: Huni(Immortals) Jungle: Reignover(Immortals) Mid: GBM(NRG) ADC: Zven(OG) - such an early dissapointment Sup: Adrian(Immortals) Flex: Trick(G2) Team:Cloud 9

ALT: Soaz Steelback NRG

I know what you said about it not being advisable to have a team using up your alternate spot but I had NRG last week and I feel they'll be strong this split and just wanted to throw cloud 9 in for this week. Im iffy on trick as his first week explosion could have been a luck thing but i know steelback wont be scoring gold this week and soaz im not too sure about. Any thoughts? Also, the few notable players that are free agents right now are:

Alex Ich(REN) Balls(C9) - not expecting much RF Legendary(REN) Gamsu(FNC) Nukeduck(VIT) - also not expecting much

growlithe12341/23/2016, 3:08:04 AM1 votes

so steelback redemed himself after getting negative points in his first game. now he has pretty good numbers, but now my problem is my flex. should I stick with apollo, or go with renegades new adc LOD that is starting this week. not sure if he will start both games, and I already have rf and team renegades starting. Im thinking apollo since maybe I can salvage points from him if they beat renegades by a lot.