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Power Rankings - 6/2/2015

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After weeks of waiting, all five of the major leagues have begun. Asian leagues had a few weeks head start on the LCS regions, but the picture is still murky in China where substitutions, experimentation, and general unrest is preventing us from being able to analyze the region. Similarly, with only two games of data we can't make firm determinations on the LCS regions, but there's still plenty to discuss. One thing is constant in all regions however: new teams have proven they aren't to be taken for granted. Find out who moved up and down this week...

Korea

  1. ( - ) SKTelecom T1 (2-0) [4-0]
  2. ( - ) CJ Entus (3-0) [6-2]
  3. ( - ) KT Rolster (2-1) [5-2]
  4. (+2) Jin Air Green Wings (2-1) [4-2]
  5. (-1) Najin e-mFire (1-2) [3-5]
  6. (-1) KOO Tigers (1-1) [3-3]
  7. (+1) Samsung (1-2) [3-4]
  8. (+1) Incredible Miracle (1-1) [2-3]
  9. (-2) Anarchy (1-3) [4-7]
  10. ( - ) SBENU Sonicboom (0-3) [0-6]
(Match Score) [Game Score] The Jin Air Greenwings have begun to resume the form they held last season in the wake of their win over Anarchy. But KT Rolster remains a step ahead of them after defeating Jin Air 2-0. Meanwhile, nothing has happened to upset the balance of SKT and CJ's grasp on the region, with CJ winning a close series over KT Rolster and SKT coming out ahead against Najin. There is still potential for upsets later in the Split, but for now, it's still a two team race for best in Korea. Panel: Alex Manisier, Erik "DoA" Lonnquist, Christopher "MonteCristo" Mykles, and Mike "Noctt" Huh

China

  1. ( - ) Edward Gaming (2-0-1)
  2. ( - ) Invictus Gaming (3-1-0)
  3. (+1) Qiao Gu (2-0-1)
  4. (+1) Snake (2-1-1)
  5. (+2) OMG (1-0-3)
  6. (-3) Vici Gaming (0-1-3)
  7. (+1) LGD Gaming (0-1-3)
  8. (-2) Masters 3 (1-0-3)
  9. (+1) Royal Never Give Up (1-1-3)
  10. (-1) Unlimited Potential (0-1-4)
  11. (+1) Team WE (0-2-2)
  12. (-1) Team King (0-4-0)
Record format is (W-L-T) Edward Gaming and Invictus Gaming are not giving up their stranglehold on China. They are however letting the rest of the region maintain their crazy ways. In an inexplicable move, Vici Gaming shuffled its roster around in what should have been a marquee matchup against Invictus. Why? Zu-Jing "Carry" Wang was unable to play and they didn't want to use a sub. They get a bit of a pass, but not much of one by virtue of the 22-match regular season not letting this one have too much impact. Still, it would have been nice of them to try to win. Snake and Qiao Gu continue their improvement and their ascension up the rankings, giving LGD and Masters 3 the role of gatekeeper between the lower and upper tiers of the league.

Panel: Barento "Raz" Mohammed, Michale "Drexxin" Lalor, and Carlos "H0tsawce" Bravo.

North America

  1. ( - ) Team SoloMid (1-1)
  2. (+3) Counter Logic Gaming (2-0)
  3. ( - ) Team Liquid (2-0)
  4. (-2) Cloud9 (1-1)
  5. (-1) Team Impulse (1-1)
  6. (+2) Enemy Esports (1-1)
  7. (-1) Gravity (1-1)
  8. (+2) Team Dignitas (1-1)
  9. (-2) Team8 (0-2)
  10. (-1) Team Dragon Knights (0-2)
Before you crucify us for putting Counter Logic Gaming 2nd behind Team SoloMid, let us explain. It's too early in the season to really stack rank these teams, especially because Cloud9 out teamplayed TSM, but then inexcusably lost to Team Dignitas. CLG looked great against Team Impulse, but we think it was more CLG's strengths naturally exploiting TiP's flaws than a statement game. I would fully expect this to change in the coming weeks. If CLG is able to keep up their impressive performance, they will most assuredly be 1st Place. However, this isn't the standings, it's a Power Ranking. We have to wait and see if all the top teams are as consistent as we hope they will be. Enemy Esports is the big winner of the week. As one of the new teams in NA, it was unlikely they'd come out with much fire, but they managed to defeat Gravity in their debut. Look for them to continue improving as the Split continues.

Panel: Cameron Gilbert, Mattias "Gentleman Gustaf" Lehman, Taylor "Riot RoboTayCo" Cocke, Jason "Riot Jayway" Wai, Joshua "Riot Jatt" Leesman, and Frank "Riot Mirhi" Fields.

Europe

  1. ( - ) Fnatic (2-0)
  2. (+2) Origen (2-0)
  3. ( - ) Unicorns of Love (1-1)
  4. (-2) H2K (1-1)
  5. (+1) Elements (1-1)
  6. (+2) Copenhagen Wolves (1-1)
  7. ( - ) SK Gaming (0-2)
  8. (+1) ROCCAT (1-1)
  9. (+1) Giants Gaming (1-1)
  10. (-5) Gambit Gaming (0-2)
Martin "Rekkles" Larsson isn't cursed after all! We didn't expect Fnatic to have any chemistry problems considering that the AD carry and Bora "YellOwStaR" Kim played a full year together, but it was still a possibility. They managed to close out Unicorns of Love and SK Gaming pretty convincingly in Week 1, leading us to believe Fnatic will be a better team in the long term than they are now. However, Origen also showed to be a contender with an impressive win over H2K -- a team many thought to be No. 2 in Europe. Elements seems to have recovered from their hangover from last Split as well. They completely dismantled Gambit and then lost a close game to Unicorns of Love. You can only penalize the top teams for playing each other so much, so even though the records don't align with rankings too heavily, we do expect things to level out in the coming weeks.

Panel: Devin "PiraTechnics" Young, Mattias "Gentleman Gustaf" Lehman, Taylor "Riot RoboTayCo" Cocke, Jason "Riot Jayway" Wai, and Frank "Riot Mirhi" Fields.

Taiwan

  1. ( - ) ahq e-Sports Club (3-0-0)
  2. ( - ) yoe Flash Wolves (2-0-1)
  3. (+4) Machi Esports (1-1-1)
  4. ( - ) Taipei Assassins (1-1-1)
  5. (+1) Midnight Sun (0-1-2)
  6. (-2) Hong Kong Esports (0-1-2)
  7. (+1) Logitech Snipers (0-1-2)
  8. (-3) Assassin Sniper (0-2-1)
Unfortunately for fans of the LMS, there seem to only be two contenders in LMS. The region still appears to be very deep, but more top heavy lately. Machi Esports has been on the rise, but the Taipei Assassins, Assassin Sniper, and Hong Kong Esports have not looked as solid as they once did. The teams have all had troubles adapting, and anemic play in the past week lead us to believe this may be a Flash Wolves vs. ahq race once again.

Panel: James "Obscurica" Chen and Chia "Reazony" Yu.

Brazil

  1. ( - ) Keyd Stars (2-0-0)
  2. ( - ) paIN Gaming (1-0-1)
  3. ( - ) INTZ e-Sports (1-1-0)
  4. ( - ) CNB e-Sports Club (0-1-1)
  5. ( - ) g3nerationX (1-0-1)
  6. (+2) KaBuM! Orange (1-0-1)
  7. (-1) INTZ e-Sports Red (0-1-1)
  8. (-1) KaBuM! Black (0-1-1)
Record format is (W-L-T) Order was somewhat restored in Brazil this past week, although ranking teams past the top two is still fairly difficult. Returning to form this week was paiN Gaming, who swept CNB e-Sports Club in a hard-fought set that was far closer than the final 2-0 score suggests. Top team Keyd Stars swept g3nerationx -- formerly their sister team, Keyd Warriors -- but looked shaky in the second game as g3nerationx was a few mistakes away from the upset. INTZ's coordination was much improved in Week 2, and Gabriel "Tockers" Claumann overcame six consecutive mid lane bans to boast an impressive combined 30 KDA in their 2-0 victory over INTZ Red. Lastly, KaBuM! Orange was the more focused of the two KaBuM! teams this week, as Black played surprisingly passively throughout their mid game, giving Orange the 2-0.

Written by Emily Rand

Panel: Emily Rand

Latin America

  1. KLG (0-0)
  2. Lyon Gaming (1-0)
  3. Last Kings (0-0)
  4. Dash9 Gaming (0-1)
  5. Furious Gaming (0-0)
  6. Gaming Gaming (1-0)
  7. Havoks Gaming (1-0)
  8. Isurus Gaming (0-0)
The 2015 Latin American Cup’s closing Split has officially started and while we are still waiting for LAS to play their games later today, yesterday we were able to watch all six LAN teams in action. Regional champion Lyon Gaming was able to defeat their arch rivals Dash9 Gaming in a convincing display of authority against a team that has three new players. The boys from Gaming Gaming were in charge of welcoming MYM to the LATAM region in a very close fight that had the audience comparing it to a basketball game. Finally Havoks Gaming made their Latin American Cup debut by defeating Peru’s Revenge eSports in another back and forth match. Later today we get to see LAS in action when Latin American champions KLG face off against Furious Gaming, Last Kings vs. Bencheados, and Rebirth vs. Isurus Gaming. Written by Erick “Skyshock” Gonzalez Panel: Erick "Skyshock" Gonzalez

Japan

  1. ( - ) DetonatioN FocusMe (1-1)
  2. ( - ) 7th Heaven (1-1)
  3. (+1) RabbitFive (1-1)
  4. (-1) Ozone Rampage (2-0)
  5. ( - ) Rascal Jester (1-1)
  6. ( - ) ApeX R Gaming (0-2)
You might be surprised to see the only 2-0 team ranked 4th, but the games Ozone Rampage played have left something to be desired: close, unpolished wins over equally unpolished teams. Meanwhile, the team they barely edged out a victory over last week, Rabbit Five, took out the reigning champs DetonatioN FocusMe while playing with a sub. FM seemed to lack all the decisiveness that made them so scary last week, and Rabbit Five -- led by a spectacular Gnar performance from Yuta "Yutorimoyashi" Noguchi – took full advantage, leading them on a merry chase all over the map. It's close, but the all-Japanese Rabbit Five moves up to No. 3 this week. On the other hand, 7th Heaven finally showed off their best stuff against ApeX. Their lane dominance and effective followup showed that their loss last week may have been more to FocusMe's credit than their own weakness, leading the top two to stay as is. It'll be this weekend, in 7th Heaven's match against Rabbit Five, where we see how much credit they truly deserve.

Written by Cameron Gilbert

Panel: Cameron Gilbert

Turkey

  1. ( - ) Beşiktaş (6-0)
  2. ( - ) HWA.Gamesatış (4-2)
  3. ( - ) Oyun Hizmetleri (4-2)
  4. ( - ) Dark Passage (3-3)
  5. (+3) Team Turquality (2-4)
  6. (-1) NumberOne eSports Club (2-4)
  7. ( - ) Atlas (2-4)
  8. (-2) CREW (1-5)
In the third week of the Turkish Championship League, teams continued to tinker with rosters. Most notably, ex-Giants support Fernando "Rydle" Soria joined up with Dark Passage, and arguably the best Turkish ADC Anıl "HolyPhoenix" Işık teamed up with HWA.Gamesatış. Beşiktaş on the other hand is still performing below their peak, though they won a crucial match against HWA after falling behind 8-1 in kills. HWA enjoyed success with their new ADC -- HolyPhoenix managed to record a KDA of 10.3 throughout the week. Even though Oyun Hizmetleri lost their first game against TT, they managed to bounce back and beat DP to retain 3rd Place. Team Turquality, who weren’t able to get a victory yet, had an outstanding third-week performance as they beat both Atlas and Dark Passage. New jungle addition Robin "Rawbin" Eggenberger worked together perfectly with top laner Gustav "Xyraz" Blomkvist. The synergy between the Swedes combined with the mid and bot lane big plays will surely make them a threat for the remaining weeks.

Written by Kursad Demirer

Panel: Kursad Demirer, Christopher Willekens

CIS

  1. Hard Random (3-0)
  2. Team Just.MSI (2-0)
  3. Tornado RoX (2-0)
  4. Dolphins of Wall Street (1-1)
  5. Dragon (1-2)
  6. Solar Wind (1-2)
  7. Carpe Diem (0-2)
  8. Your Exit (0-3)
First week of StarSeries gave the fans more questions than answers. On the one hand, last Split champions Hard Random continue to show the rotational play that keeps everyone else way behind, but their problem has been sustaining their form throughout the season and Playoffs. Just.MSI continued playing well, but were relatively untested this week. RoX at last acquired an AD Carry they needed to diversify their passive playstyle -- they look like they could be a serious threat to the leaders. In case of three other teams, all of whom who made roster changes, it's really hard to say whether substitutions helped or not. Dolphins are trying to find a way around their careful carries and Lasagna's all-in aggressive initiations. Dragon are still trying to build synergy with their new botlane and Carpe Diem has expressed a lack of motivation, not playing with their main roster. Newcomers Solar Wind and Your Exit are showing some potential but they have a long road to playoffs in front of them and the main goal is not to get relegated. Written by Michael "Olsior" Zverev Panel: Michael "Olsior" Zverev

Oceania

  1. Chiefs eSports Club (3-0)
  2. Legacy eSports (3-0)
  3. Dire Wolves (2-1)
  4. Avant Gaming (1-1)
  5. Sin Gaming (1-1)
  6. Absolute (1-2)
  7. Team Immunity (0-3)
  8. Sudden Fear (0-3)
We're one and a half weeks into the Oceanic Pro League, and there have been a few shuffles around the middle bracket as some teams have come out stronger than expected, while others still suffer from roster issues. Chiefs and Legacy lead the pack, and the stronger of the two is likely to be decided in their upcoming clash -- in which one undefeated record will be put to an end. Dire Wolves and Avant Garde still need time to build familiarity with their new rosters, but we've already seen glimpses of their potential strengths in their wins. Meanwhile, Team Immunity are seriously struggling, plagued by availability issues in the jungle position. There is no doubt that they have a higher upside than Absolute, but as long as they remain winless, Immunity will have to earn a higher ranking. Written by Alex Manisier Panel: Alex Manisier

International

  1. ( - ) Edward Gaming (2-0-1)
  2. ( - ) SKTelecom T1 (2-0)
  3. ( - ) Invictus Gaming (3-1-0)
  4. ( - ) CJ Entus (3-0)
  5. (+2) KT Rolster (2-1)
  6. (+3) Qiao Gu (2-0-1)
  7. (-2) ahq e-Sports Club (3-0-0)
  8. (-2) Fnatic (2-0)
  9. ( - ) yoe Flash Wolves (2-0-1)
  10. (+8) Jin Air Green Wings (2-1)
  11. (+3) Snake (2-1-1)
  12. (-1) Najin e-mFire (1-2)
  13. (NEW) Origen (2-0)
  14. (-1) KOO Tigers (1-1)
  15. (NEW) OMG (1-0-3)
  16. (-8) Vici Gaming (0-1-3)
  17. (NEW) LGD (0-1-3)
  18. (-5) Team SoloMid (1-1)
  19. (-2) Unicorns of Love (1-1)
  20. (NEW) Samsung (1-2)
First off, we all believe that China and Korea are still the best two regions -- it's just hard to figure out where teams go. Try not to get too caught up on the exact positions in the top 8 teams -- it's all pretty close, and they all seem to be improving. However, the teams that seem to be improving fastest are KT and QG, who have gone from mediocre to great very quickly. I wouldn't expect too much to change in the top 10 without a massive improvement from many of the climbing teams elsewhere in the rankings There are many new and returning teams to the rankings, but most notably is Origen, who looked like a veteran team after only a week. That's probably because they basically are a veteran team, with Jesper "Niels" Svenningsen being the only player without World Championship experience. This is a potentially scary team to the rest of Europe and even internationally. OMG, LGD, and Samsung have shown marked improvement in the past week, and it's possible that they may be able to start turning things around. Meanwhile, North America leaves us unsure what to make of them as a region. This early in the season I'd expect even more upheaval in coming weeks. Let us know your thoughts on the Power Rankings on Twitter or in the comments below.

Images courtesy of Inven, Garena, SANKO, and paiN Gaming

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155 Comments

ˆayy16 votes

"North America leaves us unsure what to make of them as a region." Well then.

sKz Aaron D9 votes

When a top team in the LPL, LMS, or LCK loses it's because the region is, "Deeper than we thought," but when the same happens in NA, it supposedly shows that the region as a whole just isn't as good as anyone else? That doesn't make any sense at all. Stop with the unflinching bias, Riot - please.

King Loaf18 votes

Have you totally forgot about MSI? TSM(the best team in NA) couldn't bring their game to the international stage. Why? Because the competition was too great. They simply wasn't good enough.

Brodley 5 votes

Sure. This makes sense, considering their first place victory at IEM against all the top teams. Have YOU totally forgotten about that? Easy to quickly judge a teams performance after one tournament. Also, weren't, not wasn't.

Morpheumax11 votes

You need to take into consideration the time frame here. This is a "current" power ranking. MSI was last month, and IEM was March. I would assume they're weighing the team as the stand at present, even if they were much higher regarded previously.

FireSnake15 votes

i don't wish to offend you but ou can't simply ignore statistics and it clearly shows that NA is far behind EUW thus certainly behind China and Korea, and that goes for the whole history of lol so far NA was never really good it,s always been mediocre

Gahlo5 votes

Thing is, EU was behind NA for the S4 + until MSI. Bottom line is there isn't enough international competition to say anything with any certainty outside of worlds where we have the most teams playing the most games. Even then it's not enough and it doesn't matter between EU and NA because it's just a scrap over 3rd behind China and Korea.

BM Rezident2 votes

If you look at it based on history, EU and NA is pretty close, they said it at MSI that when Fnatic met TSM they were actually tied 71-71 or something in all time matches between NA and EU, so at the moment EU is leading after that, but yeah, as you said, it doesnt really matter as its a fight for 3rd. Only good thing about MSI was that we got to see a NA/EU team actually do well against Koreans.

TokyoQuaSaR2 votes

Fnatic went toe to toe with SKT T1 on a BO1 + BO5 and their loss in the BO1 was influenced by a bug. So at least for the top EU team, it doesn't look that bad compared to China and Korea, as it was quite comparable during MSI. And that's a major change. We have never seen any western team go that close against Korea. So until a top NA team is able to do the same, EU is without any doubt above NA. Of course we would need more matches but 6 games is a decent sample already.

ModJikker14 votes

C9 in 4th simply because they lost to Dig yet TSM is still first despite losing to C9? Get new analysts that aren't TSM fanboys -- C9 just got a new mid laner who replaced their primary shot caller and they took down the top team of NA. They deserve to be higher up and I'm sure they will prove it next week.

JFlooby4 votes

Dig > all

TurquoiseYoshi2 votes

You're basically saying that a team that changes a player should get a free pass on rankings just because they have a new player. Incarnati0n did not play well week 1, and you are just assuming he will get dramatically better in the coming weeks. In any case, C9 didn't beat TSM, TSM imploded.

Lanthroviel7 votes

TSM didn't implode.

They're just still on tilt after that Cassio top pick at MSI!

Duke Devlin8 votes

TSM beat them-self. C9 didn't look good. How do you give up 9 drags without getting any in 2 games?

KilluhMike2 votes

lol are you ignorant... 2 games in the season and the only team that TSM did lose to was C9.. who is still considered a very good team. The reason they are and deserve to be first for america is the fact they won that huge invitational at IEM, which is huge! c9 flopped that showing. learn yourself before you sepak.

Emerwyn8 votes

Fnatic simply plays another level, they would have to go to Korea or China to find some challenge. Although I'm quite excited about Origen, if they consolidate their performance, they can be some serious contenders. For now they're the best of the mortals. US seems quite decadent and mediocre these days. Except for CLG, every game was a snooze fest. Here's hoping they step up their games, or they'll just look bad in the international stage just as TSM did in MSI.

SAFFATLOL2 votes

Fnatic fell behind earl to SK and struggled for parts of the match. They are by no means immortal. I think after week 3 we'll know who'll likely finish top 4 this split.

Cheryl Cole4 votes

dude there is a huge difference between falling behind and 1!!!! k gold loss with late scaling comp... And just one game is enough to see, that their calculated agressive play style is truly on another level.

NanchyK4 votes
  • playing slower and clawing the way back in is a new dimension for FNC. Even at MSI (not a full month ago), they would bash their heads against a wall after early game mistake and lose the game in the first 5 minutes because of over-aggression. This time around, they controlled the pace in G1 (against UOL, mind you), and didn't try to force plays after falling a bit behind early in G2. If anything, their NEW ability to play from behind just as methodically as from ahead is a sign of growth and a marked improvement!
Troll Pool5 votes

Placing C9, a team that has never placed worse then second at 4th place after beating TSM.. Gambit at 10th place ?

Being a bit overdramatic don't you think?

ModJikker6 votes

Analysts are obviously TSM fanboys :^)

I think if anything they have placed a lot of faith in C9 in the past and then C9 hasn't performed up to snuff so they are being extra hard on them this year. I mean, heck, last split TSM lost to T8 in the first week and that didn't immediately cause the analysts to drop TSM to a lower tier. Comeon guys, give C9 a break.

Melcher Bro5 votes

I feel like if they are going to give C9 such a low ranking they should really punish TSM for losing to them more. If C9 is 4th and TSM lost to the 4th place team they shouldn't still be first right? Especially if they are placing C9 as 4th simply because they lost to a low tier team.

ModJikker5 votes

This guy gets it. TSM lost to the 4th place team so they should be punished in the rankings for it. It should be

CLG Liquid TSM C9

Analyst are just giving TSM a pass to first because "muh international tournament" and fanboys

Gorshav2 votes

Well, I'm a C9 fan and I do believe that that many teams are ahead of C9 right now. However, C9 always shows up in plays offs. C9 gave up so many objectives the few past games. What I'm truly surprised aout is there is only one international wild card spot for NA. I think currently believe NA is equal to EU right now.

Cimodi4 votes

you cannot be serious about saying na is equal to eu. Please tell me you arent serious. Im not considering the past, cuz clearly sometimes it was eu and sometimes na on top. But in the 2015 season eu hast just the clear edge over na. Fnatic, Unicorns of Love, H2K and SK(including forg1ven, dont know about how good they will be without him) are most defenitly at least equal to na top teams in strategic but so far ahead in individually player skills. let's sayBjergsen, Lemonation and the fat little chinese boy for example are mechanically the best players. If i consider them to the likes of Forg1ven, Febiven, PowerofEvil and clearly huni, maybe in some way they are equal. But in EU there are so much more of those highskilled players, while in na thats defenitly not the case. and btw i defenitly would'nt put tsm in the first spot. It's just as you said, clg deserves that after that 1st week. tsm rather should be 5th or 6th.

Skullrush3 votes

You clearly aren't seeing it straight, these analysts are focused on the teams itself, not only how they performed on certain games vs certain teams, but the whole games they've played.

ThatAfr05 votes

EU>NA Rito confirmed^^

sKz Aaron D4 votes

Riot, please start taking NA seriously. With the exception of MSI, NA has consistently done as well as or better than EU and LMS in Seasons 4 and 5. S4, not a single LMS or EU team made it to the knock-out stage. 2 NA teams did, taking games from the 2 best LCK teams as well. IEM San Jose - C9 won, beating both EU teams. IEM Cologne - Gambit won, beating Team Dignitas and CLG (who beat Roccat). TSM beat CJ Entus and Yoe Flash Wolves at IEM Katowice, two teams above them on this list that didn't even qualify for MSI. When a top team in the LPL, LMS, or LCK loses it's because the region is, "Deeper than we thought," but when the same happens in NA, it supposedly shows that the region as a whole just isn't as good as anyone else? That doesn't make any sense at all. Stop with the unflinching bias, please.

Cheryl Cole8 votes

Yeah yeah... same old story. "But we made it to knock-out stage omg". So EU can use "we are season one champions". Well historicaly EU has more success then NA. It means no win for you anyway. So you should finaly realize this is only about current potential. Couse it would be silly compare S4 TSM (with exact same roster) to S4 Fnatic huh? Every team in EU LCS changed roster and 3 top eu teams have even more then 4/5 different roster.

So tell me...how exactly you think, analysts should integrate your S4 success into current power ranking? Im actualy really curious, how you imagine (not particularly you, every guy who come out with this), it would work out.

sKz Aaron D2 votes

I was pointing out results from big tournaments showing that for the past year+, NA has done just as well as EU, yet hasn't been given the same legitimacy by these analysts. That means the analysts are either incompetent, or biased, and I highly doubt that they are incompetent. Can anyone really believe that Samsung Galaxy is better than all but 3 teams in NA and EU right now? What about TL? H2K? CLG? UOL?

I SUPA I5 votes

NA is trash man. I agree TSM should be rank 19 lol

Felthisone4 votes

Analysts is not be little NA teams, they are overrated LCK teams. This season, we can see LCK teams really drop in depth due to so many top Korean talents went to other region. Outside of SKT, rest of LCK teams fall off. As what you point out, they are no way that Samsung Galaxy is better than H2K, UOL, TL and CLG. Currently they have 7 teams out of 10 teams from LCK on the top 20 world ranking that's way too many.

Cheryl Cole2 votes

Well question was clear. How can you do it, to display not just current form, but your past year performance. So your logic means, that SKT should be on the bottom, simply becouse they had rough S4? And EDG well... they should be somewhere near to SKT, becouse their S4 was mediocre at the best. And about your bias. If some region shows they are not that competitive as the rest, they are simply put on proper position in power rankings. Why dont you get it? It's happening all the time and you still didnt get use to it. And what about TL? H2K? CLG? UOL? ... Just becouse you would love to see TL, or CLG on your list doesnt mean, there are not 20 better teams around the world.

AFK Sam10 votes

It is not like TSM is not treated seriously. It is just they have visible shortcomings for a long time, and there is no improvement. ( Sorry if you don't like it, but I will provide my honest opinion).

In my personal opinion, LOL professional plays are made up with two things: 1) players mechanics 2) strategy (how they operate as a team). The visible shortcomings I was referring to is player mechanics. I will provide 2 examples on international level. First, top lane. Darius is not a world class top laner ever since season 3. On season 3 world final, Darius lost most top lane match ups pretty badly. Especially in their defeat to OMG, he lost to Gogoing so freaking badly. Moreover, gogoing did not prove to be a world class top laner after season 4. With the increase of age, players mechanical skills are getting bad. It works the same for everyone. So we know, Darius is not going to get any better than S3, but in his S3 days, he did not prove to be world class. You can see more and more teams are using this to against TSM, even domestically. Second, bot lane. It is in fact the same story. Wild turtle is not good at mechanical adcs such us vayne. The proof is you almost never see him picking this champion. But vayne is the pride of ADC in the Eastern LOL world. If you want to play LOL professional league, vayne is the first champion you should master. Anyway, back to turtle, his pocket pick is Corki. But again, it never prove to be a relevant factor on international stage. Two years passed, and turtle still pick Corki on MSI when it matters. It did not work before, it was not gonna back then.

So What TSM was doing is actually using their strategic advantage to compensate their lane weakness. It worked sometimes when enemy team don't expect it. But it is certain that it won't lead you anywhere further when players mechanic is so far behind.

sKz Aaron D1 votes

I'm not trying to say that TSM is the best team in the world, in fact, MSI proved they aren't. I'm pointing out a fact, not an opinion, that NA is not treated seriously by the analysts that do power rankings. I'm pointing to the FACTS that NA teams did just as well as (and better in some areas) than EU and LMS teams for the past year and a half, but everyone seems to just discount them despite that. As I said before, notice the way they say China, Korea, and Taiwan are deep, but the instant a top NA team loses to a middle of the pack or lower tier team, the analysts say that the region as a whole isn't very good. I think that the Spring Split and Playoffs served to illustrate that NA is fairly deep. Liquid got 3rd place despite barely qualifying for the playoffs. CLG got swept in the first round by a team they were favored to beat. Something very similar happened in EU, and the analysts decided that EU was a bit deeper than they realized, stating that the teams making the upsets were improving, and that SK had been kinda shaky since IEM, not that the region as a whole simply wasn't as good as it should be - which is what they're saying about NA.

King Loaf6 votes

MSI proved TSM that they need to work on their synergie. And the fact that they got tilted from the cassio pick in toplane also proves they aren't as good as the rest of the regions top-teams. They couldn't keep a cool head.

EdMySuffering10 votes

I think its wrong to say what you're saying is a fact. Power ranking are about whats going on currently and currently EU is just showing up better. I see a lot of potential in c9 and clg, plus tsm will be coming back. However, fnatic just got rekkles back, origen seem incredibly strong and theres still consistency with uol, sk and even elements now. Sorry but at present EU is stronger, and thats what power rankings are for.

Malic1975 votes

I think the reason analysts usually overlook the NA scene is beacause of TSM. When a team finds it so easy to dominate their region (and lets face it they were night on untouchable last split) then goes on to lose to almost everybody except the "clown car" team in the international tournament it' a massive sign of weakness in the region, whereas regionally SKT had to grapple with GE Tigers all split, Fnatic lost the regular split to SK then barely squeaked through the playoffs.

But honestly from NA who do you think could have put out a better performance than TSM at MSI? The only team that ever even gives them a little trouble in the region is C9 and they've not been looking good last split. And that's why NA get overlooked, there's very little actual competition within the region and the team that most often comes out on top is the team which gives us international performances like MSI, where would you suggest we rank the NA teams? 18th seems pretty accurate to me.....

Cheryl Cole3 votes

Couldn't agree more. But what you guys from NA need to realize, is that you may by seen as weak region now. But before MSI you were comming into turnament as real deal. You messed it up, so EU take the lead now. But remember Worlds? It was exactly opposite. Alliance had been seen as western chance for international success, but ... well everybody knows what happened, and NA took the lead for spring split. And all this happens since S1.

Pofol PRO4 votes

I think c9 is fine where they are in these power rankings. They lost to DIG without taking a turret and that just brought them down alone knowing they're one of the best NA. TSM did lose but it was a close game and they beat their opponents, while CLG hasn't lost yet and DIG isn't even higher than C9 considering the pounding they gave C9. Just my opinion.

AFK Sam3 votes

Team WE dropped back to 2nd last places again in this split. So I guess it is safe to say they were on bottom part for a reason.. However, it is still a fact they won 2 Korean team and they took 1 game from TSM in IEM. One win is a upset, 2 wins are not.. So for a power ranking without WE but with so many Korean teams, you know they are simply wrong.

SAFFATLOL1 votes

With the way WE are playing right now KOO tigers would probably beat them if they had a rematch in a best of 5 series and WE didn;t take single game off TSM at IEM. Tsm beat them in the first match of groups and won 3-0 in the final.

Felthisone3 votes

I think what AFK Sam trying to said that analyst is too hang on LCK team. They are not as strong as what the power ranking make out to be. Outside of SKT, rest of LCK teams really fall off. SKT probably going to go undefeated at the summer split. Both Team WE and Koo tiger are slumping so it is really hard to said that if they face again Koo tiger would probably beat them. And base off TSM performance at MSI, I don't think they can 3-0 Team WE right now, since TSM really struggle with cinderhulk meta. Analyst rated too high on the LCK team just because they are Korean, even LCK lost so much depth due to so many top Korean talents went to other region. Outside of SKT, EU LCS teams probably are deeper and in similar strength as LCK teams. Not to mention LPL which is the deepest league atm. SKT probably has no challenge in LCK. But they are at least 5 teams in LPL that can challenge EDG at summer split playoff.

ZeroAnarchy3 votes

So Yoe Flash wolves are ranked 9th best team in the world...yeah this ranking system is flawed beyond belief.

CrazyIvan3 votes

All these comments talking about bias opinions and claiming that NA is being hated on as a region by this ranking clearly haven't actually taken the time to understand what these rankings are even based on.

First off, the table lists rankings of specific teams and not regions as a whole and therefore saying things like 'NA had two teams in the QFs at Worlds' isn't a reason to automatically promote every NA team up a few rankings. The Power Rankings are an approximate list of where specific teams line up against each other at this moment in time based partly on past performance, but mainly on recent results.

In terms of NA teams, if we first consider the teams that went to Worlds, there was TSM, C9 and LMQ. As we know LMQ basically doesn't exist anymore with the only remaining member (XiaoWeiXiao) now playing for TIP, who we can currently only judge based on their spring split and start to the summer split. They finished 4th in the in the regular season of the spring split and were then beaten by 6th place team, Team Liquid, to make them remain in 4th during the playoffs. In week 1 of the summer split they beat Team 8, a team that most would agree to be somewhat average in terms of NA teams, and lost to CLG. This can only leave us to conclude that they are only currently a mid-table NA team at this point in time.

Let's move on to C9. At Worlds last year, sure they made it to the top 8, however they also had one of the easiest groups and the team that should have really dominated the group, Alliance, ended up putting up a pretty poor showing when they could have quite easily won 5 or maybe even all 6 games if they'd brought their A game. Regardless, C9 did actually make it to the QFs and therefore deserved some claim to being a Top 8 team in the world. However, that was at the end of worlds. Since then they won IEM San Jose, beating UoL who themselves had previously beaten TSM. Both of these teams rank in the top 20 when C9 doesn't, but at the time UoL was still a rookie team, yet to even play in the LCS and I'll get to TSM later.

At IEM Katowice C9 lost both their games eliminating them from the tournament making them finish in joint last place in a tournament that most people agree was generally filled with very watered down competition. Despite a few struggles at the start of the 2015 spring season they still managed to pull their way up to another second place finish in the split. In week 1 of the summer split they have again performed shaky, with a new mid laner who we can't really tell much about yet and losing a game to Dignitas, a team who have basically only just been managing to keep themselves in the LCS these past few splits. The fact that this C9 team can still beat TSM, who up to the end of the spring split were clearly the best team in NA is an obvious reason to doubt the capability of any of the NA teams at this point in time in terms of international competitiveness.

Finally, the last NA team that went to worlds, TSM. Again they managed to make it the QFs, however TSM too had a somewhat lucky break when SK's Svenskeren was banned from playing in their first 3 games. At the time, despite finishing third in the EU playoffs, SK were considered the second best team in EU and had only come third as their semifinal match was reasonably close encounter with Alliance. Fnatic somewhat struggling their way to the final over a full five games against ROCCAT. Svenskeren probably was (and still is) SK's best player and their's no doubt that his ban heavily impacted SK's performance as they managed to beat both TSM and Taipei Assassins when he returned to the team. If Svenskeren had played in the first game against TSM and SK had won, both teams would have finished 3 for 3 and SK would have gone through from winning both their games against TSM. We'll never know, but TSM was potentially that one game away from not getting out of groups. However, as with C9, they did in fact make it to the top 8, again staking a claim for an equal position in terms of world ranking.

Moving on, as already mentioned TSM lost to rookie wildcard team, UoL in IEM San Jose, but later went on to win IEM Katowice. From the teams that competed in the latter, three of them are placed above TSM in these Power Rankings. The yoe Flash Wolves, CJ Entus and GE Tigers (now KOO Tigers). There was some controversy about Korean teams not taking the tournament seriously and not preparing which led to their loss. True or not, TSM did personally beat the Flash Wolves and CJ Entus. They didn't get to play against TIgers. TSM then managed to win the NA spring split for the second time in a row qualifying them for MSI. However at MSI they would only win one of their 5 games against wildcard team, Beşiktaş e-Sports. In week 1 of the summer split in NA they then lost to C9 a team who is currently themselves on shaky ground in terms of relevance to the international scene, leaving it uncertain as to where NA currently sits on the Power Ranking list as the writer of the article says.

The yoe Flash Wolves finished 2nd in their region in the spring split, losing out to ahq e-Sports who performed pretty well when put against the World's best teams at MSI and a decent start to the summer season by the Flash Wolves spells good things for them placing them 9th on the power rankings. Likewise, the KOO Tigers and CJ Entus finished 2nd and 3rd in Korea, bested by SKT. A somewhat underwhelming start to their summer split then ends up leaving the Tigers 14th (4 places above TSM), with CJ Entus looking on top form leaving them a high flying 4th.

Based on all these facts the Power Rankings are actually quite reasonable, when bearing in mind that they rank specific teams at specific points in time. I don't watch a huge amount of league outside of the NA and EU LCS and internationals, so I can't say for all the other teams regions, but as far the NA and EU teams go it seems entirely fair to me. The only two EU teams above TSM are Fnatic, a team that only seems to get stronger the more they play and who also beat TSM at MSI, and Oregen, a team that's already looked highly competitive with a roster of players who collectively have a large amount of international experience. Alliance (Elements) and SK (the other EU teams that went to worlds) don't even feature in the top 20, which is entirely fair because their recent performance doesn't warrant it.

As of week one it seems that CLG has potential to take over as the best team in NA, but since they have an even worse track record when it comes to international competition in recent times (ie. it doesn't even exist) that puts NA in an even tougher spot to rank them any higher than they currently are in these rankings. As soon as we get some more clear results for NA I'm sure a couple of their teams will start climbing back up the ladder again, but as of right now these Power Rankings are pretty much as accurate as it can get.

TL;DR - Power Rankings only try to relate the ability of specific teams at specific times, not regions as a whole.

Cheryl Cole3 votes

So much wisdom in one comment. Just one question. How does it feel, writting all these senseful stuff but know that nobody will most likely read this, becouse we are only 2 days from another power ranking? Dont get me wrong, i would be so sad.

Darkest Laugh2 votes

While people are trash talking NA, can we take a moment to remember the world series last year? You know, the one where no EU teams made it to the quarter finals, while 2 NA teams did? And the only team to win a match against Samsung White besides Royal Club in the finals was in fact TSM? Oh yeah, and one of the analysts had mentioned that in all seriousness NA and EU aren't that far behind China and Korea. They were pretty spot on with that. If you don't count for that one powerhouse team that Korea somehow manages to produce every year, they're not that special.

The way I see it, had Royal Club stuck to having a tank in the top lane and someone tanky or at least hard to gank in the mid lane (like they did in the match they won) against SSW, they would have been the champions of S4.

Nıssan4 votes

The power ranking are about now, not an event from last year. Stop clinging onto past glory and face the fact NA is a very weak region at the moment, they have much to work on.

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