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Anyone Else Tired of the Same 30-40 Champs?

Live4vrRdieTryin·7/2/2017, 7:33:21 AM·3 votes·596 views

I'm sure this isn't an original post. I'm a pretty new player, I love watching the live games- these guys are great no doubt. Fun to watch them go at it and try to learn a thing or two.

Only major complaint is being forced to watch Lee Sin, J4, Elise, Rumble, Gragas (annoyingly belching around....), Cassiopea, Orianna, Galio, Syndra, Taliyah, Corki, Caitlyn, Varus, Jhin and maybe only a few more than a dozen of others each and every time 95% of every game.

I mean seriously. These guys are pros. For the sake of entertainment they can handle a rule where each 2/3 they play, the rule is that once a champion has been selected by either team, it can be selected no more.

I think it would make it so much more interesting. So much more entertaining. There are plenty of good champions but they gravitate to the safest ones. Don't doubt that they practice niche champs! They certainly do. It would handicap both teams and open up so much more strategies, but of course it's mostly for the entertainment of the viewers, this idea.

Perhaps this would be a good idea for an ancillary tournament?

9 Comments

GeminiRune7/2/2017, 11:02:59 AM4 votes

I'm tired of seeing the same 6 or so characters and/or team combinations in a fighting game; doesn't mean I want to throw players on a discomforting or less than favorable or preferable match up they didn't practice 100+ games beforehand with for my on selfish entertainment. Applies to this game in a similar and rather skewed opinion however.

While admittedly new to a scene, I can cut full criticism. But realize that this is what you get with competitive gaming anywhere, You are far from the first to make a post like this. I quoted this last week in fact:

Pro players play to the competitive level that enables them primarily to win or prove their potential as some of the best; not to be some entertaining grandstanding. If it bores you that the champion selection is so stagnant, you can kind of play the game yourself. You don't need a pro to play something in order to find the interest to play it yourself.

The game is ever changing as well; times where things get strong and things fall out of favor competitively. You could go back as far as even the Spring Split where you had a lot of Ashe/Varus/Jhin as the bot lane trinity match, Rengar was extremely popular, casters ruled the bot lane, Ziggs period, Camille was a near perma ban, etc. The same complaint was made even then. And it used unrealistic numbers based off of what the user watched. If that's just one or two regions, there's a lot that's being missed out. There's plenty of niche and pocket picks out there; Zilean, Sion, Aurelion Sol, Jax, Mordekaiser - 5 I can name off the top of my head that aren't among the core pro meta yet have emerged this summer already.

If it's not All Stars or there's literally nothing left to fight for (the latter being less common), I see no need to demand for players to play on potentially losing conditions for the sake of what fans who are not even in their position want.

ChompyWulf7/2/2017, 4:44:05 PM2 votes

Really the only way you will see champ comps change is because of Riot altering balance. Until ADCs like Ashe, Varus, and Caitlyn get damage nerfs, they will be preferred over the likes of Corki, Ezreal, MF, and Vayne. Same goes for the top mages in mid and fighters in top. Jung and Support are the roles with a little more wiggle room depending on team comp and gameplan, but even within a given region and the prevailing meta there, you don't see it change much.

The best idea I've got would shift the season format. Ditch the series record standings. Teams play either two or three games, but not as a best-of. Wining a game earns 10 points. If your team fields a champ played by either side the game before, it's a single point penalty per consecutive champ. If a champ is played game 1, and unplayed game 2, no penalty to use it game 3. At most a team could accrue 30 points in a sweep without using consecutive champs, 20 in a full sweep if they insist on top meta champs. Could also give those penalty points over to a losing team if they had no penalty points and the winning team had 5.

It would be a pain to get used to, but make things interesting for splits and group stages in tournaments.

III BAKURYU III 7/2/2017, 6:15:20 PM1 votes

Every champion has different abilities, since they're all different we as the audience and the players will still play those certain champions. Riot can't nerf or rework certain champions because even if they all do the same amount of dmg or tank it's the abilities that draws the line between them in the first place.
Second these are pro players yes, they can play different champions in which that might be the only way to add more champions into the scene if the players have say a pool limit of only playing X champions no more than say 10-15 times or something within that split.
However I'v seen this hundreds of times and while it is annoying to watch the same ol' champions it's going on 7-8 years and no change in the scene and yet League keeps on getting bigger at far as I'm concerned so the majority of people don't care. Do what I tell people if you're tired of seeing X champion, go on youtube type in what champion you want to be played and watch a solo Q video cause that's all that matters right ? X champion and not professional games ?

JRobin317/2/2017, 11:29:00 PM1 votes

Remember when everyone was saying the new ban system would get rid of the same old champions in pro play? Called it: people complaining about seeing the same champions over and over again in pro play. Yes, that's right. I told you so. Read it, cry like a baby, and down vote me.[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

YambrinZ7/3/2017, 12:33:17 PM1 votes

This will never change. Some champions will always be superior in pro play. There is no world in which all champions can be viable in all metas.