2017 NA LCS Summer Split Award Winners

I also find it pretty crazy how much the points dropped off after those two, 92 points for Bjerg, 22 points for Huhi. Means there's really only the two of them that deserve the spot.

Seriously. A single vote was the difference between a winner and a tie.

Let's be clear here: Out of 42 votes half of them are players and coaches--just like last year. After that, Riot holds 14 votes and 8 votes were supplied from each of the major news outlets for eSports with Riot holding less than 1/3 of the vote. This was never Riot choosing who the teams are--this was a concensus between Riot, players, coaches, and third parties. That TSM claimed 4 out of 5 positions should be a testament to just how good TSM's team was last year. They were far and away better than any other team in NA.

lol you lost all credibility the second you put mikeyoung on this list lol

Stixxay > Doblelift ?? Darshan > Hauntzer ??? Hakuho > Smoothie ????? Bro ur drunk while doing this list. I can tell...

Bakuryu is just a joke. He did a preseason power ranking last summer split i think and placed tsm at 6th place. That was also the split they went 17-1

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Not going to lie, I'm disappointed in the list but at least it's not like previous splits where Riot were so lazy and thinking who actually deserved such awards, that they just picked all 5 players from the #1 seeded team, and 5 players from the #2 seeded team cont. for the All-team awards.

X Once again Sneaky is on a team, before naming another player that should have been on there(Stixxay) X Contractz second team ? Ahead of Lira ? Even on an All-NA team ?

Here's my list, in which means nothing but just to get my point of view

First Team All NA TOP Darshan - Counter Logic Gaming JNG Xmithie - Immortals MID Jensen - Cloud 9 ADC Cody Sun - Immortals SUP Olleh -Immortals

Second Team All NA TOP Flame - Immortals JNG Lira - Team Envyus MID Bjergsen - Team Solomid ADC Stixxay - Counter Logic Gaming SUP Biofrost - Team Solomid

Third Team All NA TOP Hauntzer - Team Solomid JNG MikeYeung - Phoenix One MID Huhi - Counter Logic Gaming ADC Doublelift - Team Solomid SUP Hakuho - Team Envyus

Why is everyone downvoting a post just because they disagree. So he wasn't quite as SMOOTHIE in his picks as others. So this post isn't IMMORTAL. I realize it doesn't put everyone on CLOUD9, but It's not like his post is a FLAME or anything. No reason for ENVY. Downvoting runs COUNTER LOGIC.

I feel like Darshan is a double-edge player. He can led his team to a 5k lead and suddenly blew and threw very hard off 1 team fight and lose the game. It happened very often on him. He had a great split but when ppl voting, sometimes those bad memories suddenly came out and be like "nah"... At least if I am a coach I will never choose Darshan in my team unless I am going to build a team around him and makes him as the core player.

if anything they are "even" TSM and C9 all have 1 member on 1st team, 2 on second and 0 on third team

You talk to him?

I think so too, I may be wrong but I can't find the results to any of the previous All NA 1st - 3rd teams, but I want to say Stixxay wasn't apart of any of those. 4 splits in the LCS and I want to say he might have won 1 All NA team between 1st through 3rd -1 time. Now I'm not saying Sneaky sucks or anything but let's be honest here for a minute ever since Stixxay joined the LCS in 2016 Spring Split he has been more productive than Sneaky has if not close to actually being twice as good as Sneaky. Did Stixxay have a mid laner or any laner that was like #1 in Kills/close to +20-40 kills ahead of the next on the board(Jensen) for like 4 splits in a row ? Nah, this is a player that came into the scene won a NA Finals/Championship, went to MSI and was +20 kills above the next International player at that tournament and ultimately made NA proud with not just his but CLG's performance; coming in 2nd only behind SKT(no shame in that) but actually beating SKT in groups tho. Went to Worlds and ended 3-3 which most people ( WE WANT IMMORTALS) most likely would have done worse( C9 - TSM all finished with 3-3 yet, with much more experienced players at the helm).

Sneaky's best split in the past 4 splits, 2016 Summer 6.3 KDA 44 games, 187 kills, 72 deaths, 268 assists and 13,489 was really impressive but if I remember the dude actually had a better split the split prior were he was actually better in lane, and that's my biggest grip about it it seems Sneaky always seems to get picked and replaces Stixxay on the teams over and over again. Stixxay has like +10 more solo Kills than Sneaky in the past 4 splits, out wards him every split, as well as clears more wards. The damage % of the teams' total damage is actually pretty equal between the players like 26.2% - 26.0% in favor of Sneaky, even tho he's massively ahead in experience with his team dominating most of the competition(Impact-top die) and Jensen being a monster in lane and early stages of the game. However, that's in the past, let's look at this split

Sneaky 26% damage, 521 dpm, 0.42 wards per min, 0.35 vision wards, 0.15 wards cleared, +200 gold difference at 15mins, +1 cs differential, +139 exp pre 15 mins, 20% first blood participation, 8.9% first blooded, 0 penta kills and 2 solo kills.

Stixxay 25.6% damage, 508 dpm, 0.43 wards per min, 0.32 vision wards, 0.18 wards cleared, -83 gold difference at 15mins, -1 cs differential, +8 exp pre 15 mins, 23.9% first blood participation, 4.3% first blooded, 0 penta kills and 7 solo kills.

Even with massive leads in lane Sneaky and Stixxay both dealt identical damage% and DPM, wards/vision but Stixxay has 5 more solo kills than Sneaky and was apart of first blood participation 3.9% higher and died 4.6% lower first blooded participation than Sneaky As well as Sneaky isn't as clutch as Stixxay or why would Sneaky have such advantages in lane than Stixxay and be down +30 kills than Stixxay in the season, died 5 more times than Stixxay and overall had a much lower KDA than Stixxay.

45-146-88-296-13581 5.0 KDA ( 3.2 2.0 6.6 301.8) Sneaky 46-181-83-289-14046 5.7 KDA ( 3.9 1.8 6.3 305.3 ) Stixxay

151(gms) 557(kills) 304(deaths) 940(assists) 46,041(cs) Sneaky's last 4 splits 152(gms) 560(kills) 339(deaths) 828(assists) 46,960(cs) Stixxay's last 4 splist

the toplane vote was very close between Darshan Ssumday Hauntzer and Flame. While I think Flame definitely has a spot there, the other 3 all have cases why they should be or should NOT be on there. Personally my 3 are Flame Darshan and Ssumday, simply because with DL's return Hauntzer hasn't looked like his Spring-Split self.

For ADC, its again pretty similar, I think DL has a pretty good grip on his spot and then the next 3/4 being Stixxay, Sneaky, Arrow, Cody (not in that order) Stixxay and Sneaky are VERY VERY similar, both have great supports, good positioning, similar stats etc. I really don't notice any MASSIVE differences in their playstyle. CodySun people think don't deserve his spot due to the all stars in Xmithie and Olleh, but I think he's done fairly well for himself, I certainly can't discredit his accomplishments. And Arrow, has the unfortunate life of being on the 10th place team that just couldnt get any momentum going. My three are DL Stixxay Sneaky

Nah he's the best. If the majority didn't agree then he wouldn't be voted it. Once someone shows more impact and what not than him, then they will win. It's given to the best, which is Bjergsen,

The players and coaches are the majority of the vote, on top of that Huhi played out of his mind this split while all POB had to do was not lose mid, which he did a fine job of getting 8 PotGs, but still the rest of the team would do most of the work for him. For example how many times did Olleh and Xmithie roam/gank mid, compared to the amount of times Huhi roamed to his side lanes. People bashed on (and, like you, continue to bash on) Huhi when he's gone and shown that he is a fantastic midlaner, and one a true carry for CLG. He earned that spot.

I legitimately can't think of an argument against huhi being the third best midlaner. He constantly pulls one or two bans on his two pocket picks, which often wins clg draft phase. He has a huge champ pool and does well on all of his picks. He does better than pob without having the security of multiple MVP candidates to carry his games.