Why NA struggles in esports.

Sinister Edward·6/3/2015, 7:15:45 AM·2 votes·3,363 views

I think the biggest reason NA struggles in PC esports is because we are very diversified in gaming. We play console and PC games, if you look at console communities they don't have much players that are from Europe and Asia. I would consider those regions PC focused, while in NA it's more console focus. NA tends to do really well in console games such as Call of Duty, Smash Bros, and Halo.

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Lucky Sandhu6/3/2015, 9:15:53 AM4 votes

If you look at league tournaments in China and Korea, teams have to play 2-5 games in a row frequently and the whole event goes for hours. NA does not commit that much time, neither do the players commit as much time as Chinese and Korean players for practice. Whoever has a stronger gamer's soul wins, con-soul does not make any difference.

Lugg6/3/2015, 7:30:07 AM2 votes

NA just doesn't have the same amount of high quality teams to compete against. When you aren't used to pushing yourself every week, you don't improve as fast. That is why the Chinese and Koreans are so good, every week you are facing a really good team.

Facy6/3/2015, 7:57:20 AM2 votes

wrong, the reason why NA struggles can be a medical reason.... the amount of sugar consumed and the sugar in their meals etc. is a lot higher then it is in the rest of the world its a known fact that sugar is rly bad for your health (not talking about getting fat more talking about the addiction part and what it does to your stress lvl) Looking at how kids grow up there and the amount of sugar they are used to consume it is no wonder that they do bad in this particular ''sport''.

NuSix36/3/2015, 9:17:46 AM2 votes

One thing I've noticed is the way NA talks about scrims -- like that is their practice. Scrims should be treated as warmups where you test some real basic strategies, or some real wild ones that you would never test in a game that matters -- or do everything opposite of how you plan so if anyone squeals on you to the other team it will only help you.

From what I see in TSM legends it looks like they develop actual game day strategies in their scrims... obviously someone is going to tell your opponent what you're up to. I know I'd be abusing the hell out of that system if I was a coach.

Xonra6/3/2015, 7:27:26 AM2 votes

I think the reason NA struggles is because we had no incentive to stay ahead, and we got too much money too quick.

NA was the first to get real money, and sure EU caught up fast, and even won S1 (edit: I fat fingered and hit the number 2) worlds, but they never made the same money, especially with streaming, because most of the players aren't marketable.

China came in without all the money and it came naturally, now they get the big bucks to just buy the good players to add to their pool. Then again they have about 5 bazillion more people to pull from realistically.

I just believe it all comes down to money, and pro players lose the drive (even if they won't admit it) when they see the big bucks.

While Everyone has a drive to succeed, when you are making as much money as some of the NA players do just from streaming alone, it is probably hard to see the old goal when you have cash and seem successful in other ways.

Of course there is also the NA factor that other regions don't really have. If you take Doublelift as an example, he has interviews, streaming, sponsor events, team sponsor events, etc etc.

Korean players, say, Faker (not comparing the two players in skill just in recognition). Faker doesn't stream all that much unless he is doing solo queue for practice, he doesn't go do his own sponsorship thing, etc etc. He has a strict schedule of practice and play that most NA players take advantage of and choose to relax or play...counter strike or hearth stone (like most of CLG has gone on record of saying they play as much cs:go the past year as they do practicing solo queue)

It all comes down to money. When you get the money, you feel accomplished, when you aren't getting paid UNTIL you meet your goal, you have to be more highly motivated to succeed.

stealthfox946/3/2015, 7:00:20 PM1 votes

Plain and simple the Asian teams have more dedication and E-Sports are treated as a real sport there like Football and basketball, this isn't the case in the west. Western teams don't play as many games as Asian teams do.

ReflectiveFly2/25/2016, 9:57:54 PM1 votes

Its more about attitude than PC or console , in Na tryharding is not a thing , people are trolling and seem to prioritize fun over hard work . Na is motherland of pop culture so it is kinda expected.

Ale non è male2/25/2016, 10:54:02 PM1 votes

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I would consider those regions PC focused, while in NA it's more console focus. NA tends to do really well in console games such as Call of Duty, Smash Bros, and Halo.

That's laughable. NA has a sizable player base both for PC and console games, it is just they are bad in any e-sport where other regions are interested in Smash Bros is probably the only competitive game that has had an estabilished competitve scene for long time where NA competes well (and Smash is far more popular in NA than in the other countries excewpt Japan, and JAPAn doesn't really have a developed esports scene), the other two games scenes have been kinda unstable, pumped basically by the game producers which are NA based, and the other regions have had far less interest spent on it in than NA