As a league player from Taiwan, I still don't understand why even Eu still get to have 3 seeds when they didn't made the knockout stage in MSI. Doesn't the tournament show that Eu doesn't really deserve that third seat in the worlds? Wouldn't it be more balanced if the third seed is given to LMS for being in front of Eu or even given to the IWC simply because their is more teams in the IWC?
TheSequelsRBad5 votesI am not certain of this, but I believe it is due to region size and population. Taiwan is by far the smallest of the 5 major regions, and in order for Riot to have their perfect 16 teams set up, someone needed to get only 2 seeds.
Not sure if this is the case, if not I am open to contradictions.
MeilinII1 votesI have no idea. but this would make more sense than anything. Except that Korea is just a small, but has 3 seeds. Then again, Korea is also OP AF.
TheSequelsRBad1 votesKorea does have twice the poulation of Taiwan, according to Google and, of course, Korea is OP.
Osbeorn3 votesIt seems that LMS has 2 good teams so it's only fair that they only have 2 representatives and the wildcard teams are usually the worst teams so we don't want more wildcards..
People are looking too much into the results of msi, no assumptions from that tournament can be made for a 3rd seed because every region had only one team there. That's why it can only decide which regions gets a pool 1 seed, but nothing more.
ThePartyLeader3 votesAccording to this logic should works just be a lck and Chinese tournament with like 1 seed from other regions?
Iwinatlife422 votesNo? NA was second at msi not china
ThePartyLeader1 votesNo? NA was second at msi not china
I said Na and eu can each have 1 seed.
Iwinatlife421 votesWhy? when EU didn't make knockout stages and NA finished higher than anyone except Korea?
ThePartyLeader1 votesWhy? when EU didn't make knockout stages and NA finished higher than anyone except Korea?
Because MSI isn't the measurement of region skill. It's just one tournament.
Iwinatlife421 votesThe most recent Benchmark of regional skill as it was the most recent inter-regional tournament
Crazy Chatter1 votesJ Team would just screw up tbh. The good part is we can laugh at EU more as all three teams wont make quarters.
Osbeorn3 votes[{quoted}](name=Crazy Chatter,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=tijkAm3Y,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-09-07T13:49:06.024+0000)
J Team would just screw up tbh. The good part is we can laugh at EU more as all three teams wont make quarters.
Like NA last season you mean? :P
warpenguin5551 votesYes, exactly.
TheSequelsRBad1 votesYeah, pretty much.
Earl Eulrich1 votesah well, the same argument could have been made for NA in most season, as they really didn´t put up much of a fight in many years and still got three seats. right now seeds are mostly oriented on the popularity of lol in the region, not so much about the skill of those regions - to change that making one seat dependend on the MSI wouldn´t afford too much, but would add a lot of frustration for a team that loses its place because the #1 deceided to screw up (like G2 did this year, they clearly didn´t do any proper preperation) as they could afford to knowing they would end up #1 or 2 in summer anyway.
So what would be fairer would be prolonged international qualifiers for the lower-class teams world wide and a more Dota-ish tournament. Or at least stacking up teams to 20 so every "main" region could bring 3 top teams and more wildcards/lower placed teams could fight it out to also participate as the underdog.
Smart Kitty1 votes[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=tijkAm3Y,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-09-07T14:05:47.792+0000)
ah well, the same argument could have been made for NA in most season, as they really didn´t put up much of a fight in many years and still got three seats. right now seeds are mostly oriented on the popularity of lol in the region, not so much about the skill of those regions - to chance that making one seat dependend on the MSI wouldn´t afford too much, but would add a lot of frustration for a team that loses its place because the #1 deceided to screw up (like G2 did this year, they clearly didn´t do any proper preperation) as they could afford to knowing they would end up #1 or 2 in summer anyway.
So what would be fairer would be prolonged international qualifiers for the lower-class teams world wide and a more Dota-ish tournament. Or at least stacking up teams to 20 so every "main" region could bring 3 top teams and more wildcards/lower placed teams could fight it out to also participate as the underdog.
Well NA performed in the events that decided seeding, just not actual worlds. Allstars 2013, decided who got first round byes, Na was 4th, I think (its been a while forgive me) so they earned the first round bye. Now at MSI 2016 which decided pools, NA finished 2nd and got to keep their pool. So while we might not have stacked up at actual worlds, the events that were instrumental in seeding and pools for worlds, we did show up at.
