North america will lose worlds so hard this season it will make your head spin.

Critkeeper·Jun 22, 2016·1 votes·826 views

They always put up enough of a fight to atleast make a dent and an impression.

I don't think they will this time.

Dynamic queue doesn't work in north america largely because there aren't enough players to fill the gaps at the highest levels-- and that is because north america is a smallish region by number of ranked players, compared to korea and china (which don't have this problem)

Even with scrims and tournament realm, the pros in north america struggle to stay in games. They aren't getting the same amount of practice that they used to get. And what practice they are getting is against a smaller pool of good players because there is more talent in china and korea, simply because there are far more players in china and korea.

The N.A. pro scene is stagnating because of this, and it is more difficult than ever to estimate the skill of fresh talent based on any kind of metric or ranking, so it will likely stay stagnant.

11 Comments

TheSequelsRBadJun 22, 20162 votes

Cough* "MSI"Cough*

TurquoiseYoshiJun 22, 20162 votes

I really don't think NA can do worse than the zero and ten catastrophe last year.

Smart KittyJun 23, 20161 votes

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I really don't think NA can do worse than the zero and ten catastrophe last year.

Exactly, I don't think it can get much worse than last year.

LintheJun 27, 20162 votes

Not sure why you say this.. NA has won every worlds so far, haven't they???

Miror BJun 22, 20161 votes

See, I'm thinking NA (and EU) will fail hard only because of how their teams look in comparison to the rest of the world. RNG continues to dominate china even with a new ADC (with many teams unable to really counter them in the pick/ban phase) whereas in LCK SKT is off to one of their best starts of all time. I could definitely see G2 potentially making the semifinals, but if I had to guess right now I'd say SKT vs RNG seems like the most likely outcome for the finals at worlds.

MeilinIIJun 24, 20161 votes

That depends on the brackets. SKT and RNG could easily face off in semis

FrankerXJun 23, 20161 votes

i think eu will fail this season. our teams all are in a worse spot than they were in season 5, while most teams in na look better than they did last season. eu just has no team that is good.

clg really improved i think huni isnt tilting as hard anymore so imt also has good chances

and well tsm... its tsm. enough said.

Kal Vas FlamJun 23, 20161 votes

Your prediction could come true, but your logic behind it is garbage.

crabface5Jun 26, 20161 votes

If TSM, IMT, EnV, C9, TL, or CLG represent NA at worlds this year, guaranteed at least 1 of them, probably 2 of them, will go to semifinals, and a 50/50 chance at making it to the Quarterfinals. I can only really say that about 4 other EU teams (Fnatic, G2, H2K, Schalke04), except only 1 of the teams making it to the semifinals, if lucky. In the future, you may be correct, but right now, NA has been training in a Bo3 setting for 2 splits, exactly what China and Korea have been doing. Eu will be on the backfoot b/c of the Bo2 format. That alone will definitely sway NA into better standings than usual. That and, lets face it, what are the odds to go 0-10 as a region again? I still perfer 0-10 to G2-8. At least we lost entirely rather than a team not trying at all and only taking wins off of the weakest region.

XantakJun 26, 20162 votes

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If TSM, IMT, EnV, C9, TL, or CLG represent NA at worlds this year, guaranteed at least 1 of them, probably 2 of them, will go to semifinals, and a 50/50 chance at making it to the Quarterfinals. I can only really say that about 4 other EU teams (Fnatic, G2, H2K, Schalke04), except only 1 of the teams making it to the semifinals, if lucky. In the future, you may be correct, but right now, NA has been training in a Bo3 setting for 2 splits, exactly what China and Korea have been doing. Eu will be on the backfoot b/c of the Bo2 format. That alone will definitely sway NA into better standings than usual. That and, lets face it, what are the odds to go 0-10 as a region again? I still perfer 0-10 to G2-8. At least we lost entirely rather than a team not trying at all and only taking wins off of the weakest region.

I think you have the terms semifinal and quarterfinal mixed up. Quarterfinals are the matches just out of the group stage, whereas the semifinals are the matches just before the grand final.

With the way that TSM, IMT, and C9 are playing currently, I see those three teams most likely making it to the World Championship tournament, and depending on the matchups in the bracket stages(let's say that RNG meets SKT-T1 before the finals), NA might have an even higher chance of going to either the semifinals or even the grand final.

We already know that NA, the LMS, the LPL, and the LCK will each be fielding a Group A seed.

crabface5Jun 28, 20161 votes

Thanks for correcting the semi-final/quarterfinal mixup. I'm not saying that NA won't go to the grand final, but odds most likely mean that we will make the 2nd stage of competition. I definitely would not mind an NA team making it to the finals ;)