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Each region so far at worlds

meaniehead··5 votes·1,272 views

Korea: 6-3 (Rox 2-1, SKT 2-1, SSG 2-1) NA: 6-3 (TSM 2-1, CLG 2-1, C9 2-1) China: 5-4 (EDG 2-1, RNG 2-1, IM 1-2) Wild Card: 3-3 (ANX 2-1, INTZ 1-2) Taiwan: 3-3 (AHQ 2-1, FW 1-2) EU: 1-8 (H2k 1-2, G2 0-3, SPL 0-3)

Comments? Thoughts? Predictions? Personally I'm equally shocked that CLG lost to Albus Nox as I was when they beat Rox. Also, INTZ over EDG day 1 was a shocker too. For the record my prediction for each group(1-4): A. Rox, CLG, ANX, G2 B. SKT, C9, FW, IM C. AHQ, EDG, H2k, INTZ D. RNG, TSM, SSG, SPL

17 Comments

III BAKURYU III 2 votes

NA typically starts off great in groups but falls off in the second half.
While EU are 1-8 they could instead just play Spoilers to NA and get them eliminated. If most of Eu most likely all of Eu can't make it out of Groups they will try their hardest to make for sure no NA team makes it out with the exception of Group B as no EU and NA team are in the group.

With Group B being so close(each group really) C9 could go in a Tie-breaker against God only knows who to be the 2nd seed or 1st but if it does happen it will be for the 3rd year in a row that C9 are in a Tie-Breaker. 2014 vs NAJIN and 2015 vs AHQ.

DeathToEcchi1 votes

ur what's wrong with league. regional pride is awesome, what you just posted is the cancer that permeates it.

Wh1teWu1f5 votes

I mean, he's not wrong. Historically NA has had worse 2nd weeks compared to their 1st weeks in the previous 3 world championships with Season 4 being the best week 2 thus far.

Season 3 Week 1: 4-4 Season 3 Week 2: 1-7

Season 4 Week 1: 6-3 Season 4 Week 2: 5-5 (including tiebreakers)

Season 5 Week 1: 6-3 Season 5 Week 2: 0-10 (including tiebreakers)

Season 6 Week 1: 6-3

Don't get me wrong, I definitely hope they can break this trend and do better than even this year, but saying he's cancer for pointing out facts and trying to use that to predict a bit of the future isn't what I'd call "cancer".

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

EXACTLY, I NEVER said anything bad about NA all I said was the truth but it wasn't like I said NA gets bent over in the 2nd half NO I just said that " NA typically starts off great in groups but falls off in the second half" IF I upset anyone with my comments I'm SORRY, my comments were not ill-content towards NA or anyone that supports NA, ( WHICH ALSO WOULD BE ME)

BigBellBrute1 votes

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Don't get me wrong, I definitely hope they can break this trend and do better than even this year, but saying he's cancer for pointing out facts and trying to use that to predict a bit of the future isn't what I'd call "cancer".

The teams are all different. TSM has just one returning player from last year. Bjerksen.
C9 also has just one returning player from last year Sneaky.
CLG has just two returning players from last year. Xmithy and Aphromoo.

Can't very well claim last year or years back beyond that are any sort of good indicators when 4/5 of two teams have changed and 3/5 of another have changed.

Wh1teWu1f1 votes

You're right, but a few minor corrections: CLG has 3 members returning with Darshan (he renamed from ZionSpartan) and you can't say C9 only has 1 player returning considering Meteos has been around before.

But again, you're correct in saying that only 6 out of the 15 players from last year's NA teams are returning. But I don't think it's that players that are controlling this trend, I think it's more so the coaching. All 3 teams have switched their coaches from last year and the coaches have done some great work keeping the players focused for the most part (excuse the SKT vs C9 game). Zikz, Reapered, and Parth have shown they're some of the best coaches in NA imo and they're the ones who should probably be praised if/when NA gets out of Groups this year.

Takito1 votes

You might want to post good information please...

You are right about TSM but:

C9: Sneaky AND Jensen returning from last year (and Meteos from earlier but it's not last year so i give it to you)

Clg: Aphromoo,Xmithie,Darshan all returning from last year and while Huhi wasn't on the main team, he was already a sub and better than pobelter.

So while they are different in composition, it's not the biggest change.

The real thing is that NA added sport psychologist to their rooster amongst other things.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

I never said anything against NA. All I said was NA normally starts off Hot but slows down. Cloud 9 has been in two tie-breaker games so far in their past Worlds.
So just because I said 2 facts about NA you're going to call me out for telling people to not have regional pride, I never said anything like that!

Just Jangle2 votes

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ur what's wrong with league. regional pride is awesome, what you just posted is the cancer that permeates it.

Mad for the true? NA always fails hard at worlds.

Dr Poro1 votes

I think most Europeans prefer NA to win over another victory to Korea. I'm rooting for any western region, so go NA, EU and wild cards!

Kal Vas Flam1 votes

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I think most Europeans prefer NA to win over another victory to Korea. I'm rooting for any western region, so go NA, EU and wild cards!

NA fan here, but digging the wild cards too!

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

EU started 1-8 but finished 6-4 NA started 6-3 but finished 3-6

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Like I said before NA starts off hot but cools off in the second half of groups 2-1 2-1 2-1 3-3 3-3 3-3 NA combined won only 3 games being one or tied for 1st place only to win 1 game but lose 2 games each in the second half.

I didn't say ANYTHING about not having regional pride, nor did I say anything bad about C9 or NA. I just pointed out FACTS about NA when it comes to the group stage of worlds.

Wh1teWu1f1 votes

I had the sinking feeling that CLG was going to lose to ANX after day 1 considering they have that habit of building hope. The good news is they were able to also beat ROX and created a very close group. Also pleased to see ANX beat G2 to keep the wildcard story interesting since INTZ hasn't shown up ever since Day 1.

So, G2 and Splyce have to now win all of their games in week 2 just to qualify for tiebreakers and then win those to qualify for the Quarter-finals (since 1 loss means they drop to X-4, while the team they lost to and whatever team wins the other match up go up to 3-X mathematically eliminating them). H2K is now EU's only viable option for getting a team into the Quarter-finals and avoiding complete elimination.

Korea is probably way closer than they'd like to be and will more than likely come back extremely strong week 2. ROX and SSG have been drafting losing lanes whether it be purposefully or simply disrespect, if they don't fix it I'll be surprised. SKT had internal issues during their playoffs, so it'll be interesting to see if those ever arise again during such a crucial time.

China can definitely show up with at least 2 teams out of the group stage if RNG and EDG keep their shit together. I expect them to have a strong week 2 as well, but there is potential for them to choke. IMay is the shakiest and probably will be eliminated since they lost to SKT, C9, and they should've lost to Flash Wolves.

Taiwan is going to have to fight like hell to stay above the water considering they still haven't seemed too dominant in their games against the other teams. If Flash Wolves can fix their late game and close games out better, then they could be in a tiebreaker with C9 or maybe even edge SKT or C9 out of the Quarter-finals. AHQ mainly has to worry about H2K since they'll also be trying their hardest to get out too since they are effectively EU's last hope, and if AHQ can beat EDG, that would be a huge surge of momentum and probably be the game that pushes them into the Quarter-finals.

NA has a legitimate chance to get 3 teams into the Quarter-finals if they can hold their ground. C9 needs 2 games to clinch and definitely can do so against FW and IM. CLG and TSM is a little more complicated since they could both end up in a 3-way tie situation. CLG should be able to beat ANX this time around and will hopefully hold their ground against G2 (maybe even ROX if they don't improve much). Group D is obviously the group of death, and even more so now that it's become so cutthroat amongst the 3 teams. You may think that all they need to do is just beat the other teams and not worry about Splyce, but Splyce came very close to taking games off the teams, and if any of the top 3 disrespect Splyce, they could get spoiled and see their ticket to Chicago disappear right before their eyes. So effectively SPY is just the annoying pain that can get you killed if you're not careful.

As for the IWCs, I don't think INTZ will get out. They haven't done much since Day 1, and I doubt they'll do much more tbh, but who knows, like SPY, if a team disrespects them, they could steal a win or 2 off H2k and AHQ. ANX genuinely get out with their 2 wins, and if they can win 2 more, they've more than likely clinched their spot and will be headed to Chicago. CLG and G2 are their main challenges, but if they can steal a win from ROX then they will be highly likely to go to be the first IWC to make it out of Groups.

Angry Monster1 votes

So this is pretty good but I do not think group D is really a group of death for TSM; well conditionally. If Berg can keep up with practice while getting better (since he is very sick) TSM should have group D no problem. He has til sunday to get better.

If Berg fails to be able to keep practice or for some reason does not get better they are probably out of the group.

Best wishes for BERG to get better.

Kal Vas Flam1 votes

Every team has at least one loss after week 1 and NA is tied with KR, raise your hand if you saw that coming.

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