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10 THOUGHTS
GOING INTO Semifinals

And when the dust settled, SKT rose -- year after year this has been the takeaway. The Quarterfinals saw two Game 5s, some classic Fnatic shenanigans, and the final Pool 1 team -- Longzhu Gaming -- fall. We are now left with dream Semifinal matchups for China and South Korea.

Misfit to be KingRumors of EU’s demise were greatly exaggerated. Misfits Gaming pulled out all the stops in their attempt to stop the SKT train. In particular, MSF support IgNar showed off Blitzcrank, Leona, Alistar, and Thresh to disrupt the Ardent Censer meta. It even forced SKT to respond with a Tahm Kench pick. This series showed the world that you don’t have to follow the meta to find success. But it also served as a reminder that SKT is on their quest for a third straight World Championship. Faker dominated the series in a way few other mid laners have been able to replicate this Worlds. There are two ways of looking at the SKT vs. MSF series. The first is that SKT is showing vulnerabilities for once -- we’ve seen a clear blueprint for at least beating them in the early game. That MSF almost toppled them could be a sign of hope. The second way of looking at this, though, is that if a punch that strong and that innovative still couldn’t beat SKT, then what could?

Headlines SKT have killed over the yearsFit to be King: Misfits slay SK telecom T1 EDG stuns SKT with a near perfect game KT Rolster’s super team proves to be too much for Faker and SKT Best of Five: G2’s MSI win gives Europe first international title since S1 Samsung Galaxy completes reverse sweep over SK telecom T1 PraY and GorillA finally topple Faker as ROX advances The Clappening: Jensen delivers on his hype Uzi and Royal cement China as the best region in the world

Is there a consensus second greatest player of all time?Here’s a thought experiment: who’s the second greatest player of all time? Depending on the metric, there are a lot of possible answers. Uzi, Bang, Wolf, Bengi, PraY, GorillA, Dade, Ambition, Mata, Clearlove7, Bjergsen, sOAZ, WeiXiao, and so on and so forth. To me, probably, it is Uzi, but the case against him is strong -- he can’t even win domestically. The rest of the list you can talk about their inconsistency or their failures on an international stage. And the SKT guys live in Faker’s shadow. That’s what’s astounding about this. Faker is the clearcut GOAT and stands head and shoulders above everyone else. We saw his dominance on display again as he willed SKT past a tenacious Misfits. You could narrow it down to roles and still there would no consensus outside of Faker. There are no false gods. There is only Faker.

U-Z-IUzi had a game with 19 kills on Kog’Maw against Fnatic. It was RNG’s only loss in that series. For years now, people have said Uzi may be the most mechanically talented player in the world. Moreso than Faker or Deft or your friendly neighborhood instalock Riven top solo queuer. But year after year, he’s still never been able to win anything -- internationally or domestically. RNG have generated a lot of buzz so far, but after a less-than-convincing win over FNC, will they be able to step up to the plate against SKT during the Semifinals? If Uzi can return to the Finals again, he may ironically cement himself in 2nd place -- as the 2nd greatest player in League of Legends history. It is, I think, a 2nd place that’s not so bad.

The Samsung DynastyIf Samsung Galaxy can reach the Worlds Finals again, it’ll be their third in four years. And as it stands, they are the heavy favorite over Team WE thanks to their trouncing of Longzhu Gaming. But as we saw from the Group Stage to the Quarterfinals, a week is more than enough time for a team to implement change. SSG advanced largely thanks to Crown’s shift in style towards enabling his side laners. And with Ambition in the lineup, SSG’s communication and coordination allowed them to easily close out the series over LZ. It is the exact same roster that pushed SKT to a Game 5 last year -- can they take that next step?

The Tragedy of GorillA and PraY: Act IIIMercutio was the coolest character in Romeo and Juliet. He died early (spoilers!!). Likewise, PraY and GorillA are two of the coolest players you’d ever meet. They have a great backstory. They’re loyal. And…. they’re out early. This year, GorillA told me he thought of PraY as his older brother and hoped they’d remain friends well beyond League of Legends. Suffice to say, them being knocked out makes me very sad. But also suffice to say, it’s not exactly surprising at this point -- they’ve entered Worlds as the #1 seed from Korea two years in a row now, and both times they’ve been eliminated before the Finals. Their legacy is that they are and have been really good. But as I mentioned, there are a lot of Mercutios on that boat.

Ban… Singed?Cloud9 pulled out new picks including Aurelion Sol and Singed against Team WE. Aurelion Sol netted them a massive early game advantage before they threw it away. Then C9 inexplicably never returned to the Star Forger. The Singed helped them secure two wins before finding himself on the ban list. Turns out “don’t chase the Singed” is applicable even in pro play. WE persevered, though, thanks to the strength of their mid and late game team fighting. The American dream is once again dead.

A Viewer’s Guide to the Pick/Ban phase1. Complain about Ryze picks until Faker does well on it, then complain about something else. 2. Demand off-meta picks, but be angry if they don't work. 3. Something something ban Janna and Galio. 4. Uzi picks Vayne = cheer. Anyone else picks Vayne = cry. 5. Rub your chin and say, “Interesting,” for every odd pick to impress your friends.

Rest of the WestOn the one hand, MSF and C9 both had respectable showings in pushing SKT and WE to 5 games respectively. On the other hand, if a 2-3 near-win (in the Quarterfinals) is cause for celebration, then perhaps your region has a lot to work on. The off-season is now here for them and 2018 will be a banner year in many ways for both the EU and NA LCS. I hope teams will take what MSF and C9 showed in the Quarterfinals to heart and develop their own play styles this year. I hope G2 and TSM are actually challenged. I hope one day Western fans will find themselves in the reverse position -- upset that their team could only win 3-2.

Main victory condition for the remaining teamsRNG – Give Uzi gold and then die for Uzi in team fights and then start Uzi chants while you wait to respawn. SKT – Faker shows up the stadium. WE – Don’t actually roll over and die in the lane phase. SSG – Help Crown help you.

MATCH PREVIEW
SATURDAY, OCTOBER 27, 12:30AM PST
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Every time SKT plays a match now, it has a chance at becoming the greatest match in League of Legends history. Their last three Best of 5s at Worlds (including last year) – between MSF, SSG, and ROX – all went the distance. But each time, SKT prevailed in the deciding match. I don’t know if historic is the right word -- SKT could lose here and then go on to win the next five years, for example, but I think it’d be historic at least for the team that does beat them. This year, RNG looks like they could be that team. Remove the name plates and SKT looks vulnerable. Sloppy, even. But you can’t just remove the names. Once the game starts, you’ll be staring straight down the barrel that is SK telecom T1. SKT seemed to make adjustments to help remedy their early game woes, and Huni is one of the few players to find success on split pushing champions. Ultimately, though, Faker still has been their catalyst – he’s been unmovable in the mid lane. Xiaohu may not die to him, but that’s not enough. RNG will need to snowball their bot lane to allow them to rotate into mid early to disrupt Faker if they want to win. Luckily, Bang and Wolf have not looked good – they appear ripe for Uzi’s picking. Come late game, the clashes between Faker and Uzi will be a wondrous sight to behold. These are two of the best team fighting squads in the world – RNG bulldozes forward as SKT kites backwards. All the pieces are in place for a colossal clash. The winner advances to the Bird’s Nest in Beijing.

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34 Comments

III BAKURYU III 5 votes

". This series showed the world that you don’t have to follow the meta to find success". If only NA, mainly TSM can actually learn to do that instead of the same ol' copy paste what Korea does, only to get pwnd by the same logic. Cliff notes if you will doesn't beat the book itself or knowledge that comes with it.

Funny how players don't even smile when they win or accomplish anything in this game, but they tend to smile in the hype videos. Sneaky talking about teams reversing sweep out of groups(Fnatic) followed by Rekkles smiling. Misfits and the SKT hype video, with POE smiling while talking about trying to take down the 3x World Champions SKT, only to lose in a tip of the hat salute 3-2(interesting). One could say it's ri............

Uzi or maybe Mata as the second greatest league player

" I hope teams will take what MSF and C9 showed in the Quarterfinals to heart and develop their own play styles this year". -Doubtful, what will 2018 be 8 years and NA cant do anything but "copy paste" Korea for the most part, but yes, 2018 will change all that lol. I know for a fact TSM won't that's for sure, if there's fanboy team of SKT/Korea it's TSM and if there's a team to cliff note, only to fail like baboons it's TSM, we've seen it countless times now, what makes 2018 for TSM or NA any different

WhiteFireKirin1 votes

and another guy thinks the entirety of NA is tsm.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

10 straight NA Finals, winning 5 of them. That's like saying the AFC East isn't just the Patriots, when in reality it really is for what 51 out of 52 weeks each year, with C9 being better for 1 week before getting dunked.

Killersoul2 votes

You forgot SKT hasn't won that much in a row in their own region. Winning locally doesn't make you the best team of the region.

III BAKURYU III 2 votes

True, C9 hasn't beaten TSM since 2014 Spring and RNG hasn't won an LPL Finals since Spring of 2016. But talking about NA/TSM and while TSM doesn't represent NA 100% they do in fact count as a large part of the region, I mean create a poll between " C9 success at Worlds" Upvote over downvote for "TSM's failure" and I'm pretty sure people will talk more about TSM than say C9's success, why, because TSM is NA really at this point.

Killersoul2 votes

I get what you're saying, you're poll would only show TSM has the biggest fanbase, i'm just not sure to say it has over 50% of the fanbase of the entire NA. On a side note i've watch LCS since 2014-15 and TSM rarely showed any kind of surprise strategies or anything similar, i just don't get the big disappointment of people when the expectation is quite low in my case. You ain't gonna beat a better team playing the same game they do.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

I think TSM has well over 60% of the fanbase easily, maybe not now with how TSM failed yet again at Worlds, but just look at previous games where it's " Who do you think will win polls" and TSM are always above 60%. Heck, I remember TSM lost to RNG to go 0-1 in groups last year, faced SSG and the same poll came up and TSM were much, much higher than SSG.
People are just tired of TSM doing so well within their own region, that they want them to win at an International level. It's like they're the LA Dodgers(pre 2017), Nationals, Clippers(W/Chris Paul), Washington Capitals etc. TSM also has one of the best fanbase, players, $, resources, revenue etc etc. That's why the pressure on TSM is so high, everything positive is in their corner.

EMPEROR SIVSHAN1 votes

Everything positive except their mentalities,I think NA biggest curse is their mentality and attitude to adapt different strategies,C9 did manage to break the mould but again they lost steam at the final game.The reasons Koreans are so good is they will adapt to different strategies for example (SKT taking leona fervor ,a tribute to MSF and winning cleanly ) and keep going even if they are ahead in the series or especially when behind they are lethal tbh one wrong mistake and u can kiss ur chances goodbye.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

One could say NA really has no "tradition/own style" of play, instead NA typically just tries to copy whats already proven and could be easily countered as every region copies Korea for the most part but when it counts or when teams face or are in the same tournament with Korean teams, they tend to change things up a bit but for NA and really TSM in my opinion, instead of doing something different and creating their own style for teams to adapt to them, they play the same way each and every game.

DarkRooster2 votes

Other teams can't even get their shit together to beat TSM. Why consider such teams ?

Terabyte Marine4 votes

TSM is just kind of the face of NA at this point. Much like George Washington is the face of the American Revolution, even though he was just the head of it. I think fans of the region tend to rally behind a team (mainly the better performing one) and are too loyal to praise or talk about other teams.

EMPEROR SIVSHAN1 votes

I think they need diversity and multiple drafts to execute on.Being a meta slave is fine but when a team who is playing that style over and over,it shows they clearly are better that style(The Koreans and Chinese).How to counter that is to either play better than them at that style or just pick another style which is equally effective which MSF and C9 did especially bringing out pocket picks like singed and leona are just what you want to topple the Asians.Last year Rox did with MF support so it is proven.Thus every game you should bring a new style and execute properly to counter the Koreans that's why I thought GAM can make it far if they got out of groups, the way they pushed LZ to the limit was amazing, but their late game execution wasn't great so they toppled after a brilliant start.Even MSF and C9 almost did it , its just that winning 3 games against the Asians is too tough because they can adapt to any play-style within that series.So you have to knock them out with different drafts for 3 times without missing a beat or even having slightly a doubt of losing the whole series.

III BAKURYU III 4 votes

Things I get annoyed about from TSM

  1. Bjergsen plays too damn passive/even. If you're a top tier Korean team facing TSM and their best player just goes even and plays passive to the point of starving themselves, wouldn't you just play passive and even too, when you know your team will win anyways?
    You can see it in pro play and you can even see it in solo Q, especially with pings with Bjergsen who pings like 100 times for help in a 1v1 every game.
    Ever since 2014 Spring, Bjergsen has also been consistent but his true carry power has gotten worse and worse over the years. Instead he picks these support like mid champions. One can argue the best player needs to work around the team or the team works around the best player and TSM does both but around the wrong players.
    ( Support style Bjergsen) - (Carry D-Lift) has been the style since D-Lift joined TSM WHY ? D-Lift has no choice but to pick carry champions(ADC?) but that doesn't mean he's the carry on the team, have the team built around Bjergsen so he can actually do something and...........blamed.

  2. Blame It seems Bjergsen never gets any sort of blame, why because he's too well known at this point, he also doesn't take chances and so, he doesn't die(KDA) to be able to get the blame. Do you recall LAL vs PHX back in 04-06 somewhere during that timeline in the playoffs? Remember, when Kobe shot like 30 times and got blamed for losing 3 games because how much he shot, so, he shot only like 5 times in game 7 so he wouldn't be blamed for what he was already being blamed for. Hell, he even deleted a post saying something like (" How could I be blamed for losing") like it was someone else's fault.
    The best players get the blame, not the worse ones !

Just other things like X Why is TSM following the meta for 11 months only to give Hauntzer a carry champion in every deciding game in tournaments ? You know it's a tank top for the most part and yet, they keep giving him these Jayce picks thinking he can carry, he can't.

X Why are top lanes within the Western scene not understand don't push or overextend, when top is 90% of the time the first gank in games. They push, overextend, get ganked, flash die. We've seen this from Hauntzer, Impact, Flame like 20+ times and their not learning from it.

X WTH happened to D-Lift's lane phase? It's like D-Lift and Sneaky switched or something, D-Lift couldn't do shit in lane, while Sneaky was like a god in lane, and it's not like it only started during Worlds. For a better part of 2017 Summer split was the same for both D-Lift and Sneaky.

Long enough post so, I'll stop here: Overall all, great effort from NA/EU, 3 extra games, tie-breakers, coming back from 0-3/0-4 holes from FNC and EDG 3-2 from MFS and C9 etc etc.
As well as my apology

UncouthGamer2 votes

I agree so much with this whole post.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

III BAKURYU III 2 votes

Really? Huh, didn't think I would get an upvote or a comment either. Well, thank you anyhow ;]

The Lexer1 votes

I don't really mind Bjergsen being passive. He is ahead in cs most of the time. But it would be nice if he could pull out some more aggressive picks that we've been seeing. He can still dominate even when being passive. I agree Doublelift's laning faze has greatly weakened ever since his "break." Hauntzer seems so good on tanks, but he has proven to be good on carries, at least within NA. Putting him on Jayce which he hasn't played in a long time is a bit of a reach.

Personally, I think a lot of TSM's problems come down to the draft phase. They seem to get outdrafted a lot, especially that last game against MSF. Draft to your players' strengths. Putting Sven on a tank was probably a mistake. Same thing happened to Levi and GAM. They picked Sejuani in their tie breaker and couldn't get an impact out of the jungler. Sven has been able to pick carries and Gragas, so stick with that. If Hauntzer really needs to be on a carry, pick pretty much anything else. Renekton comes to mind.

Basically, I think the draft is TSM's problem. There are certainly issues in their play but the team/coach needs to learn how to draft around that.

edit: They are also very predictable. I can pretty much guess their last 2 picks every time. There are no surprises and no pocket picks. Look at the other western teams that actually made it out of groups. Ignar with all of his agressive picks and ASol and Singed for C9. It's much harder to predict what they will pick.

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

I personally don't care about the cs leads honestly, especially in this meta where a player can be down by say 70 cs at 20 mins, they get a gank and now their ahead in lane. We've seen Impact beat 957 for the most part with cs leads, get ganked and boom...... he's now flashless, behind and overall, useless.
His only aggressive pick is Syndra and it's so obvious that's really his only option in games, he tends to pick her each time TSM are behind the 8 ball. He picked it constantly in the 2014 NA playoffs, picked it at Worlds last year after losing to RNG facing SSG. You ban out Syndra and his carry potential is cut in half pretty much.
I want to see him actually be aggressive again but I don't think that will happen.

" Personally, I think a lot of TSM's problems come down to the draft phase"

  • Agree, with also their mindset of not doing something different. We know TSM can be a good team, we've seen games from TSM, but at the same time they're Korean/Meta slaves and it's so easy to counter what's already been written on the wall for all to see, and yet, they still continue the same ol' same ol'.
    Like you said, TSM are predictable with their drafts that it's really funny when they lose before playing because of the poor drafts.

Overall, I'm tired of TSM ! They can win NA all they want but at this point who cares about winning the weakest region to begin with.

Sagan Forever2 votes

Good post. I agree completely; if people consider Berg to be a top 10 and he is average, well then he underperformed. Though overall I would say that he failure was team wide, I do not get why people always blame one player in team games. Are there games one person loses it all, yes. There are also games that one person puts here team on back. Though 6 games losing 4 games that you should have won( going with the they should have done a 6-0 crowd), then it must be a problem with the team itself. I also do not understand why the west is unable to play carry top either.

III BAKURYU III 2 votes

Oh, believe me TSM needs to be blamed, from Hauntzer all the way to Parth etc etc but I personally get annoyed when Bjergsen gets a free pass from fans constantly, with such sayings as" Bjergsen needs to go to a real team", "wasting Bjergsen's time" etc etc. NO, needs gets just as much blame as the others, if not a bit more being the star on the team AKA " S$it rolls down - never up" meaning Bjergsen should get most of the blame. You also look at TSM's failure at Worlds, it's been 3 straight years, with Bjergsen being on the roster for all 3 years of 1-5 3-3 3-4.

" I do not get why people always blame one player in team games "

  • Because it's easier than saying the whole team, instead people focus 1 player and make X amount of points so others can agree too. It's narrowing the field and picking out the stranglers. It's really the "Goat" of sorts that every store, business etc type of fields also follow, why talk s$it and possibly need to fire 30 or so people, if you can do it to 1 and make a statement with that such person.

" I also do not understand why the west is unable to play carry top either".

  • Most of the "carries" in NA are really divas honestly. Do you think D-lift will really give Hauntzer the spotlight, the gold, and have him play second fiddle ? Bjergsen does it with champions sure, but his mentality and ability to dive or go in first to soak dmg with say Galio, he tends to think he's still the carry also. Literally the only NA player that is a carry but tends to actually play with a team first mentality is Sneaky.
EMPEROR SIVSHAN1 votes

And Koreans keep winning just because honestly all other teams lose steam at game 5 not the korean ones,they aren't out till they are out with the final time nexus falling,western teams are getting there but still not enough even Chinese teams lose steam lol man SKT at worlds are like Messi for Barca,its like they can play worlds over and over again without a sweat I mean they don't even perform that great at their own region lol xD

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Korean teams are like CLG for NA, they typically do really good or play to the competition, but when CLG for example faces these "weaker/less known teams" they tend to get crushed. Same can be said about SKT. They know most of the community don't want them to win again, and every team are doing everything in their power to beat them, pulling all the stops to end their reign. So not only does SKT have to face teams but also the fanbase of the community. So, it makes them perform even harder.

I always view Western teams facing Korean teams like a boss fight in a game; instead of the quest saying " Beat these boss to advance" it instead says " Survive for 20 mins without dying to advance", once you have completed the first part, then you can try to beat that so boss.

fsis11111 votes

Stop talk about Dead team

III BAKURYU III 1 votes

Neva ! You see, I'm a necromancer I talk ill of the dead but I can also bring them back from the dead.

SuperValida1 votes

You can't stop NA Monkeys salting about their TrashSM and Clown9. They have to bring them up and ignore regions other than KR, EU, or NA.

MysterQ2 votes

ALWAYS a broken link.

Please make sure the article is up first.

woodvsmurph2 votes

Once again, a well written piece. Riot needs to keep you around.

RedPyroMage2 votes

Is there a mistake in SKT's win condition? Is it meant to be "Faker shows up to the stadium"?

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

Ten thoughts? Here is one

  1. Which of the four teams will be able to abuse the ardent censor more while getting the incredible contested picks like Galio and Janna

Stay tuned!

Wifi the Router1 votes

The best abuser will be the one who bans ardent censer supports and abuses the enemy supports who don't use it as effectively.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Thanks for sharing! I'll have to check this out.

Blitz1001 votes

Pffftt. For RNG, SSG, and WE they give legitimate win conditions and areas for improvement. For SKT, its just "have Faker on the team". What a world we live in.

TrollFan011 votes

SKT are going back-to-back-to-back world championships and 4 overall.

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