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10 thoughts going into Quarterfinals

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10 THOUGHTS
GOING INTO QUARTERFINALS

If for some reason you expected my pick’em to do well, then I’d like to thank you for misplacing your trust in my ability to see the future. Suffice to say, I did not do well. But unlike eight teams, 10 thoughts does in fact advance to Guangzhou.

Destined for an All-Korean final? This could be the third time in a row that PraY and GorillA find Faker at the end of their journey. A Korean final is great for purists -- it is, theoretically, a clash between the two best teams at Worlds on paper. It’s an LCK Summer Finals rematch. It has history. It has star power. But for everyone looking for a change of pace? Well, hedge your bets on one of the Chinese teams. Being at home affords them at least the comfort of their culture. It doesn’t take much to swing the mood of a team. And… bah who am I trying to fool. Anything outside of an SKT vs. LZ final will need a major upset. I do think you should take a moment to stew in this rivalry’s greatness, though. And in SKT’s ability to dominate it. If you look at the major sports, more often than not it’s the dynasties that are remembered. As you become increasingly numb to SKT winning, take some time to imagine the magnitude of their eventual fall. It will come. It always does. But revel in what they are now. That said...

Knock, knockWho’s there?
Longzhu knocked out
Longzhu knocked out who?
Everyone.

… That’s a sneak preview of my standup routine post-worlds. Book it now – LZ is going to win Worlds. Lost in the shuffle of the Group Stage drama was their sheer dominance. PraY was, to me, the best performer in Wuhan. All of their players excel in this meta. Pray is a hyper carry ADC, GorillA is a Janna main (among other things), BDD is a roaming mid laner who never dies, and Khan and Cuzz are a top/jungle combo with lethal synergy.

NA’s Weak 2IMT may have choked because they are inexperienced -- a few things swing here or there and they could have advanced. TSM, however, doesn’t have any excuses. The NA LCS’ inability to keep TSM from reaching the NA LCS Finals has, perhaps, dulled their blade. Their strongest showing was in Worlds 2014, which came off the heels of them finally upending a Cloud9 squad which had their number for the better part of a year. A good challenger means you have to innovate. I don’t necessarily want to see TSM fail, but knocking them off their pedestal has been super effective at lighting their fire in the past. TLDR: it’s somehow literally entirely Parth’s or Svenskeren’s or Dyrus’ fault. And Doublelift flashing to turn total wipes into nearly total wipes totally would have fixed all their early game woes. And there’s no way Cody’s flash play was an accident -- he totally meant to sabotage his team!!! *coughsandchokesonsalt

The wild, wild westMisfits and Cloud9 feel like the forgotten middle child to me. They both made Quarterfinals but have been written off for one reason or another. People will say C9 limped in or aren’t as good as EDG or aren’t TSM so who cares. But if you’d told them before Worlds that they’d be matched up against another region’s third seed in the Quarterfinals, and it wasn’t a Korean team, they’d be ecstatic. Misfits, on the other hand, did have a strong showing in group play. Especially in the early game, where SKT has faltered. Does this make them favored or even a good bet to take out SKT? Hell no. But is it enough to sneak them through in your Pick’Em as you perform rituals using miniature rabbit figurines? Hell yeah.

Play-Ins, play onThree of the four play-in teams (RIP Nineteen ‘O Seven Fenerbaçhe) advanced to the Quarterfinals: Cloud9, Fnatic, and Team WE. The meta has evolved even within this patch, so it’s not like these teams revealed too much of their hands by playing early. But when you consider every single #1 seed in the world outside of Longzhu has been eliminated, maybe third (regionally) isn’t so bad after all. Everyone else was playing 3D Chess while these guys played 3rd place chess.

Run, Fnatic, RunFnatic’s 4-0 run to secure a spot in the Quarterfinals is one of my favorite moments in League of Legends history. Their entire Group Stage had everything you want as a fan -- drama, stellar plays, reckless misplays, memes, etc. You name it. And to cap (heh) it off, they won back-to-back tiebreakers. I was as emotionally drained as I’ve ever been while watching that day. But if they get knocked off unceremoniously now, then was it all for naught? Don’t get me wrong -- I love the Group Stage more than anything but the Finals, but the Group Stage only makes for good short stories. By the end of Worlds, there will only be one narrative that matters.

The Boy Who Cried Flash WolvesThe wolves have a big lead, cried the boy. And the fans came running, but the wolves no longer had the lead by the time they arrived. The next game, the same thing happened. And the game after that. Until finally, the boy -- his hands beat red from clapping -- cried, “The wolves have a big lead! They’re really going to win this time!” And the wolves did. They howled and they snapped and they ripped the heart and lungs right out of poor TSM. But nobody came. The fans had all moved on to the Quarterfinals by then.

The best team to not make Quarterfinals was…KT Rolster. Edward Gaming. If not for throwing two major leads against SKT, they’d have advanced as the first seed. In Week 2, they showcased their ability to make proactive plays across the map in the early game, and aggression from Scout and iBoy netted them major gains. That same aggression backfired, though – Scout in particular was feast or famine from one minute to the next. The turning point in the second game against SKT was when he distorted right into the middle of SKT to try to secure the win. It, of course, failed. But it’s hard to not respect a player for trying. If the alternative is the risk-averse play that doomed the Flash Wolves and TSM, for example, then give me Scout every game.

Chinese ADCsAfter relatively disappointing showings in 2015 and 2016, the Chinese teams looked dominant in advancing to the Quarterfinals. Uzi and Mystic played large roles in that, and though EDG lost, iBoy showed flashes of his ridiculous potential in Week 2. We’ve even seen unique picks like Caitlyn and Vayne come out from the Chinese teams – expect them to iterate and build upon those strategies as we progress. These guys have made ADC look as easy your ABCs.

An uplifting song for if your team got knocked out

MATCH PREVIEW
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 19, MIDNIGHT
SK telecom t1
LCK
Misfits Gaming
EU LCS

My main reason for saying SKT is the favorite here has much less to do with how they’ve been playing and more to do with them being a 3-time World Champion. And mind you, them playing “poorly” still netted them a 5-1 record. I want to break this meta down a little bit, though. You can more or less simplify it to “whoever has the better ADC will win.” Which means winning bot lane has frequently been the way to win a game. You can win bot lane by straight up 2v2ing, with pressure, or by countering the pressure. As straight 2v2s are more rare, in order to generate pressure on bot lane, one of your solo lanes needs to be winning – mid will roam bot with the jungler, or the jungler will drop a ward for a teleport (usually from a top laner). It’s rare that a lone jungler ganking has been successful or even attempted. Misfits have been most successful when PowerOfEvil has roamed with Maxlore to help out their bot lane. They move early and they move often. SKT has been much more reactive – they had very little kill pressure pre-15 minutes in the Group Stage. So if Faker can keep PowerOfEvil in the mid lane, then that’ll be SKT’s ticket to a win. If I had to put a number on it, I’d say any games ending before 32-35 minutes favors MSF, and anything over favors SKT. What do you think? Could MSF be a stylistic matchup for SKT? Or will SKT’s early game finally find some life?

Kien Lam is a content producer for Lolesports. You can find more awful great jokes and commentary on his Twitter @meanmisterkien.

28 Comments

Knowskillz4 votes

If C9 takes out WE, then they will have been responsible for knocking out the number 1 seed front China and the best team from China as stated by many casters. They will be the most hated team in China. I hoped for this match since play-in stage. Go C9!

SwordOfRome7 votes

And Doublelift will still be China's favorite ADC

Nog Nog Nog1 votes

Too soon.

Miser Catullus3 votes

I don't see the point in defending dl. making a difference or not, he had no reason to keep both sums when seeing a shockwave coming--biofrost flashed just fine. but na has never been to a week 4 before, so will see how that goes c9. every non lck region has a weakness in toplane, and c9 is arguably much better at it with impact, but sneaky vs mystic will also be interesting to look at. i mean, khan can beat soaz with doge, counter or not. cuvee can dodge everything with twisted advance. huni can ramp up 50+ cs advantage @20. what soaz, alphari, 957, and letme has to offer is still a question. all said, i think c9 should be playing with an underdog mentality. even if they win we, they facecheck lz or ssg, so the sooner they abandon their disrespect the better. i don't appreciate sneaky's attitude after their lose to edg. he said 'there's a galio and a j4 on my face and a caitlyn free shooting, what can i do?' this is not a proactive attitude. they know what siege comp can do, and they should address that later against we if they want to win.

I FK AFK1 votes

I dont believe Sneaky can even match against mystic well in lane, but certainly if there is upset in quarters its very likely C9, but I think WE 3-2 or 3-1 win.

SuperValida3 votes

You NA people are SO unfair against LPL team. Did you even watch LCK summer split? LZ and SSG were equally good! SSG IS NOT A WEAK TEAM!!! It won't be a MAJOR upset for SSG to beat KT and LZ, so if RNG is capable of beating SSG, it WON'T be a MAJOR upset for RNG to beat LZ. However, I grant you the fact that SSG has a weak bot lane which is sad because of the current meta.

I FK AFK1 votes

I think the way LZ and RNG can beat SSG not because LZ and RNG are "super good"(they are good actually), but its because SSG play so horribleto me, Crown and Ambition do not step up, Ruler is horrible at positioning, CoreJJ is decent but there is only so much a support can do specially it is ardent meta. The only one been playing well so far is Cuvee, but also, this is Maokai Chogath patch that he can only do limited of works...Ruler and Crown gotta do something, specially Ruler, this is supposed to be AD is carrying, but he been been dying.

SuperValida1 votes

I know, it is sad that Ruler is not a tier 1 adc and since the meta changed to adc hyper carry focus, Corejj cannot pick his zyra, and Cuvee cannot pick his Camile or whatever carrying. Also it is sad that Crown is really mediocre right now and idk what is going on with him. I hope SSG can win world but guess not this year.

One more thing, Ambition is so bad at jg from what I have seen till now, why no one notices that?

Adester3 votes

"AN UPLIFTING SONG FOR IF YOUR TEAM GOT KNOCKED OUT" .. FOR IF

DC NATION 1012 votes

So ur saying SSG doesn't have a chance at beating Longzhu in #1? They did go 3-1 against them in series this season.

SuperValida1 votes

Too be fair, LZ changed its top, mid, and jg in the summer split, but still SSG showed great performance against LZ and I believe SSG has 50% chance to beat LZ. Of course, I am a SSG fan so I might be biased.

DC NATION 1011 votes

yea same

RiotMean Mister Kien1 votes

Yeah -- I don't think this meta suits SSG. I could be wrong, but I think SSG is stronger in a meta that revolves around mid lane or even top lane. I feel like Cuvee is the only lane that's going to match up evenly, but Cuzz can play around Khan better than Ambition or Haru around Cuvee.

SwordOfRome1 votes

How would you like your words, scrambled or boiled.

Gwynder2 votes

I think, just like G2 at MSI, Misfits have a good chance of taking a least one game. Skt's early game has been atrocious, and the EU boys can take advantage of that.

I FK AFK2 votes

Is this the first time POE vs Faker? It is interesting to see those two up against each other for me, but anyway, Misfits is already accomplished so much that I think everyone in the world is satisfied, they made to world, out of groups, in quarters, this is super impressive. I think the next goal just to get one win from SKT, even if this is not accomplish it is all fine.

korean dog2 votes

I wonder where C9 Magnus is. Last time I saw him he was saying NA was going to be the next most dominant region LUL

MysterQ2 votes

Technically, if he only considers C9 as NA. Then they did decent.

SuperValida1 votes

Typical NA .🐒

Ale non è male1 votes

The best team to not make Quarterfinals was G2, surely not EDG... EDG choked, and remained out of QF because their own faults of inconsistency ad throwing games, G2 was out of group because RNG beat Koreans and went even beyond high expectations people had on them

Only an incompetent would pick EDG ahead of G2

the sagdaddy3 votes

says the person from EU. if you look at actual game content, especially in week 2 EDG was wrecking face. Demolishing people. Their early game may have been the best in the whole tournament.

Ale non è male1 votes

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says the person from EU. if you look at actual game content, especially in week 2 EDG was wrecking face. Demolishing people. Their early game may have been the best in the whole tournament.

Says the biased person from NA. Group C was the strongest and hardest group to get out from, and G2 PERFROMED WELL BOTH WEEKS on it, beating RNG once, RNG that finished ahead of a KR team

EDG week 2 would have put them on par with the other KR teams and Chinese, but week 1 can't be ignored (and vice versa when judging other teams). It's funny to see double standards from some kinds of fanboys, with people claiming C9 wasn't lucky to not have been forced to face tie-breaker in Group A vs EDG that would have beaten them, and then claiming EDG was very strong and the best team that didn't qualify for QF. Sorry, it just does not work this way

EDG choking led to their elimination (otherwise they would have gotten through given the not super strong competition in the group), and a team with not enough mental fortitude HAS to be placed behind a team that didn't really choke but performed well and was just beaten by better teams.

SuperValida1 votes

Performed well? By winning most game from a bad wildcard team? Imagine if it was C9 instead of FB.

Ale non è male1 votes

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Performed well? By winning most game from a bad wildcard team? Imagine if it was C9 instead of FB.

Performed well all the games vs RNG and Samsung (unlikely what happened with TSM last season that had huge ups and downs on the road for their 3-3 when the top teams in their S6 group), taking a game off RNG. Which teams EDG played against, aside from SKT? C9 itself which no way was better than G2 and aHQ that were just more inconsistent than them

EDG failed hard in their group that had a lower competition to get at least 2nd place (the one they were expected to take and needed to get through group stage )

If it was C9 instead of FB there in group C, C9 would end up 1-5 at best in a RNG/SSG/G2/C9 group while G2 would go 2-4 or 3-3

SloreDemon1 votes

Scout's flash double distortion didn't cost them the game changing fight. It was the combo of trundle pillar, sej passive stun, and janna tornado which zoned maokai, tristana, and lulu. iBoy on trist only got 2 autos off on trundle (who completely healed up from his ult and redemption) in the time that scout went in up until his death, and then immediately after scout's death he got 2 more autos off on sejuani and buster shut on orianna before the fight was lost entirely. In that critical 10-11 moment from scout going in to the fight being lost he does 1200 damage to champions in total, give or take. The only thing he could've done to prevent the massive zoning combo would be to flash over the pillar, which is obv suicide into the orianna shockwave. Whoever made the call for them to re-engage cost them the fight, ofc scout going balls to the wall in doesn't help but that's what pro players are supposed to do; follow the shot callers calls 100%.

Linna Excel1 votes

There goes Kien's pick-em. :(

Appledore1 votes

“LZ will win WORLDS” LMAO.... dude does your face hurt from being slapped so hard?

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