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Don't watch ESports much, but I have a question

Fear the Kayn··1 votes·557 views

Why don't ESport 'athletes' careers last a long time? IRL athletes can play for years and years barring injury, so why do some ESport players careers only last a few years? This is one of the weirdest things I've noticed about LoL Esports. I know the meta changes and all, but if you're a good player you're going to stay a good player, you don't just suddenly suck. Tom Brady doesn't go from being Tom Brady to being Johnny Manziel in 3 years, so why does this happen to ESport players?

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Skouriasmenos3 votes

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Why don't ESport 'athletes' careers last a long time? IRL athletes can play for years and years barring injury, so why do some ESport players careers only last a few years?

That is easy ... because LoL is not an action game, it is a strategy game with its "meta"/rules changing every 3 weeks.

Brady, Messi and LeBron will be Brady, Messi and Lebron even if they go out with a slight injury for 3 months. The game, the leagues, the rules and the teams they will be returning to are going to be the same and their talents unaltered, even if they only did recuperation training for that time.

Try stop playing league for 3 months and return to find new meta, new champions, new opponents, new teams and possibly new rules in the game. Your talent is the same, but all those factors are not, so suddenly you are behind and you have to fight and train and read and play quite a lot to get back to the top.

This creates a constant struggle to keep up with that frantic pace, which few can handle for too much time.

MysterQ1 votes

I mean ClearLove and DoubleLift both did it this year. It isn't just that, although it may contribute.

But it is more culture than anything.

Skouriasmenos1 votes

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I mean ClearLove and DoubleLift both did it this year.

oh and how happy their teams are now with their results/performance, eh .?. ;)

it is mostly that, unfortunately ... Messi went to Argentina last summer (or the one before that) and returned to Barcelona with platinum hair and more tattoos than the average EU rapper and still got to play a great season.

When do LoL players rest or let some steam out .?. Never. Summer has splits and preseason changes all the rules/game so you need to be in PBE like a month before and test the new stuff to stay ahead of the game.

Sooner or later you implode, unless you live in a place or you have a team that is organized enough to help you with all that stuff ... that is where the culture thing comes in ...

YambrinZ3 votes

1- No franchising. This leads to a "win now" mentality, with no care for "building" a player or team. 2-Esports takes mental skill more than physical skill. This is why you will never see a pro player in their 30's....younger peopls brains work faster. Also in regular sports, their physical size is a factor. You dont just find a 7'2 human to be your basketball center, working at the 7-11 down the street 3-AGE. Because of #2 above, mmost players are young and their egos get in the way...see"Dardoch" for a prime example. In regular sports, young players are ALWAYS surrounded by older peers who keep them in line.

Skouriasmenos1 votes

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3-AGE. Because of #2 above, mmost players are young and their egos get in the way...see"Dardoch" for a prime example. In regular sports, young players are ALWAYS surrounded by older peers who keep them in line.

This is so right ... example :

http://www.espnfc.com/english-premier-league/story/3196045/alex-ferguson-let-cristiano-ronaldo-get-kicked-by-roy-keane-at-man-united

"Sir Alex Ferguson's plan to toughen up Cristiano Ronaldo involving letting established players like Roy Keane and Rio Ferdinand kick him in training, according to a former Manchester United coach."

and no matter how angry or talented you are or how many millions you are worth, you never talk back to Roy Keane, unless you are as crazy as he is and you do not know what is good for you (Viera is excluded :p ) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_st29mlQwU

in his autobiography he wrote for the man he tackled : "There are things I regret in my life and he's not one of them."

Get Keane to train LoL teams, NOW :P

archerno11 votes

New better players show up on challenger ladder. Not to mention League players are in their best years yet they cant do anything with their life. THey have to play constantly up to 16 hours a day. They cant have girlfriends, parties...

Teslyn2 votes

what is this .. Korea?

tea tìme1 votes

Doesn't it have to do with age? Mental strength is different from person to person but brain functions (reaction timea, speed and "agility" etc) tend to slow down after the age of 27. Pretty sure. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Theres alot of different factors in games. Counterstrike has older players but they don't have to think about for jnstance like somethinf a starcraft player has to. This is a very basic explanation. Plsu its y 6am so I'm fried. Lmao

MysterQ1 votes

League and esports are also new. We don't know how long people will last (like Faker is consider abnormal to still play), but part of it has to be achievements (Faker is abnormal because he is still on top). The judging of players is way harsher in Lol at least. Like, Bjergson is consider good. But he has never made it far in worlds. After a few years of never achieving, the player gets a bad rep. In sports you get that bad rep, but you can still keep competing due to the huge rosters and such.

GeminiRune1 votes

I know when it comes to LoL Esports in general, it's a rough road by simply the amount of opportunities you get to compete at the level. Also, youth tends to play an important part in a game such as this; honestly I do find that to be a misconception though. An ever changing game is actually one of the hardest to make a long career out of. Other games such as Counter Strike or fighting games see a better longevity as players could genuinely go into their 40s off of their own mechanics and instinct; something that's harder with MOBAs.

MysterQ1 votes

Many things are ever changing. More slowly often, but still changing.

esports, just doesn't have the culture behind it. The lifestyle isn't there, the support isn't there.

GeminiRune1 votes

For League maybe. But I know for a fact the culture of fighting games has been going on since the late 1990s and some people from then still go strong today.

Teslyn1 votes

Some players are better in certain metas. when the meta shifts it can actually remove a top tier player.

MysterQ1 votes

See that is one of the culture issues. The plyee would still be top tier just not as worthwhile. In basketball, you would still keep him on your team. In Lol you pick up someone new. Lol culture doesnt have support.

Teslyn1 votes

i dont put much value on professional players as well. if they arnt big names they disappear after 1-2 years anyway.

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