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GROUP C & D delivered massively. In 2 days we saw 2 of the best League games ever played (certainly at Worlds) with the stunning OMG vs Fnatic match. And the incredible C9 vs Naijin match. But the mention of the C9 vs Naijin Tiebreaker match is very misguided. Yes, NWS had a big lead for most of the game, but no C9's split-pushing didn't merely "keep thm in the game for a while." C9's brilliant and relentless tactics very nearly WON the game as NWS were literally down to 1 Nexus Turret at 1/2 HP when that game ended...and C9 very well could have finished it if Hai hadn't made an ill-advised attempt to try to flank NWS and kill them off, instead of simply keep taking inhibs. Either way C9 showed that strategically they were smarter than one of Korea's best teams and worthy of being one of the top teams in the World. PS. NA LOVES KABUM!
I agree with you on the C9 vs. NWS games, they were both awesome to watch. But go watch the FNC vs. OMG match again, there were a TON of mistakes in that game. Obviously my hind-sight is 20/20, but seriously, it was horribly misplayed by both teams, and that made it exciting to be sure. But it was not one of the best league games in terms of skill.
I guess you could say that the C9 and NWS games were not the best examples of skill either, but you made some very valid points, and I think they were some great games, with teams playing their comps really well, or an example of how to play from behind by C9.
- THIS IS FOR KABUUUUMMMM!!! (C9 team) after defeat NJW 2nd game - Group Stage
Anyone and everyone who plays League should watch the Alliance vs. Kabum match. I would call that match one of the greatest I've ever seen, not because it was an upset, but because of how Kabum won the game. Kabum drafted comfort picks instead of following what was OP in the meta and they grouped up early because they knew they that their individual play would not stand up against Alliance's individual play. While they were grouped, they had an overabundance of vision obtained by moving as a 5 man squad, making their vision practically risk free. They didn't rely on flashy individual plays or some sort of complicated scheme. Their strategy was so simple yet highly effective. Obviously, Alliance made misplays of their own, but you can't capitalize on misplays without having the vision to know that the other team isn't coming for backup.
If there's anything to be learned from this game, it's not about the meta and it's not about the plays. Pick champs you are comfortable with and group up to get low risk vision.
Inb4 "
is a comfort pick :^)"
C9 going to wreck blues for certain
And TSM to wreck White and fight again in the semis
What i hope will happen is TSM will beat SSW. It will be difficult but they might be able to pull it off. I also think C9 has the power to maybe 3-1 SSB. I dont know much about who is gonna beat who but the 1 thing I do know, is that NA is very, very strong.
NA is strong right now, but lets not forget, korea is always very strong, and while i would love C9 or TSM to win, they are definitely underdogs in both of their match-ups.
I would love to see NA make it to the semis, but it is a pipe-dream right now.
C9 and blue are 2 teams that excel in shot calling and team fights, I remember hai met Dade a few times in solo queue in Korea and held his own pretty well too. These teams have pretty similar strategies, and even if C9 gets destroyed (not saying they will or won't), we are in for some really good games. TSM might be able to hold their own against white if they play at their best. Honestly, if either NA team manages to make it to finals then they deserve to win worlds. It may be a long shot, but we can dream right?
We can definitely dream, but reality is kind of a bitch.... :D
There is a real chance that one or both NA teams can make it. Not saying its a 50-50 but there is a possibility. If anyone is to take down the Koreans I feel it will be NA, not China
C9 has a legit shot at worlds. I have no faith in TSM right now. C9 would not have lost to SHRC or SK. But C9 was equal to Najin Shield, who 9-1 Bullets, Arrows, and SKT, and who placed second in OGN Spring. It's becoming more of a reality man. The upset potential is definitely there. But I can't see how TSM can even win a single game against SSW.
honestly this is a dream. C9 looked really shaky all groups. Aside form the first Alliance win they never really had a decisive win. Blue looked strong in most of their games except in their loss to Fnatic. I'd be surprised to see C9 come out on top over Blue since they both are strong in teamfights and both have bad early game. I'm giving it to blue though in the end.
lol you're insane to think C9 going to wreck Blue for certain. Nothing is certain. I predict that C9 will beat Blue and either narrowly lose or win against White, but they could just as easily lose to Blue. This is not a light matchup. It's like Shield vs Blue with how well C9 are playing. They have a shot but are underdogs. I want C9 to win worlds so badly. Go C9!!!!
You forgot to say Kappa
LMFAO.. Where are the EU JOKERS in here now?? I knew EU were so proud when an Article about power rankings were released 2 weeks ago and now i havent seen anyone from EU post here
I'd be pretty salty if my #1 team lost to Kabum too. Can't blame EU fans. Their teams have been, while very good by challenging the top Korean teams, kinda disappointing. Sven basically destroyed SK's hope of advancing by being a racist idiot. Fnatic just couldn't find the steps to finish off games. Alliance had the quarters in their hands and threw it all away by losing to Kabum.
COMON he just called himself taipei ching chong where the fuck is racism there , during season 2 a player of azubu cheated during the quarter final , then he could still play everygame ...
COMON he just called himself taipei ching chong where the fuck is racism there ,
lmao white kid logic.
You dont go to a foreign country to to change name into something that is used to stereotype other races. If you can't see that what he did is an act of racism, he still disrespected the people that he is visiting as a representative of EU. If in case he did not know that was a disrespect to them, then he shouldve done his homework/research. He is a well known figure after all. And on the topic of justifying destroying a whole team's chance at advancing, it is written in the summoner code so they are upholding whats already in there. Riot did make it clear that behaviors like that are untollerable in the competitive scene after all and he still did it.
In USA , every week 2 black people are killed by white policeman , and the major part of time they don't have much probleme and no one care , Sven used a funny name on a game so he is racist , your country is just crazy guys really !
ACT of racism? You can't be serious... :D Threat, physical abuse, etc. based on race are act of racism. Like losing your job or getting your head bashed in with a bat just because you are black or whatever. Making fun of others is just mean and retarded.
Banning him out of LCS after worlds would have been less ridiculous then taking away those 3 games he and a lot of others already earned with months of hard work.
Fact is I don't know Sven or what really happened, you don't know him and what really happened and most likely neither are any of those who talk about it.
Go TSM :)
I was sad at the time, but then I realized that it was a battle for the right to get smashed by Samsung. I'm pretty cool with it now.
Looking forward to the IEM events later in the year. Hopefully we'll get to see a stronger showing from Europe. Altho, in fairness, I wouldn't call EU's performance that disappointing - both Alliance and Fnatic took very convincing games off of Korean teams, and SK probably would have made it out of groups if it weren't for the Sven incident, based on their games with their full roster.
Why would anyone be salty about it? Alliance had a crappy attitude and deserved the loss. Furthermore, they deserved to go home early, because modesty is one of the factors that make a team great. Remember Tabe last year? That's one dude Alliance need to pick as a model.
NA never won any worls, and if u watch the game u know that the only team which beat kr aren't from NA , be happy to be in quarter , you wont go further :)
Gotta love EU fans, still clinging on to Season 1.
Not season 1 ? Ok , during season 2 and 3 worlds NA teams didnt get out of group stage and the 2 team which where already qualified in quarter losted it , stop think NA>EU it's a dream :)
Based on the results from this world championship, I'd say that NA > EU. Also, you can't use previous results to prove your point anymore, especially given the fact that the game is radically different now than it was in any previous season. Now, we have trinkets, ward limits, new champions like Yasuo, Gnar, etc. The game has evolved
, so the only valid results are the current ones.
TSM vs. SK: 1-1 LMQ vs. FNC: 1-1 C9 vs. ALL: 1-1
Just sayin'
Face it... Brazil > EU confirmed. JAJAJA ¡Mordekaiser é o número um!
So, lets look at EU v NA without killing each other:
Historically: NA has been lackluster performing against other regions historically, but the potential has always been there (C9). EU has produced fantastic teams, and always seems to be intensely close inside it's own region, and their teams always showed up at worlds (Fnatic and M5).
Recently: With the intake of talent from other regions, the NA scene has become as "American Melting Pot" as one can get. TSM especially is an amazing example of resurgence. There is massive talent on most NA rosters, they just have to perform against other regions EU just opened wide up with the collapse of Gambit, but in the end it seemed to me that their were only the three teams making it to worlds that were truly great (gonna get killed for that one, maybe?)
Worlds: If we look at the groups, we see that EU's top teams got the worst groups possible. Fnatic was in the "group of death" and through the group stage we could see why it was so. One auto attack from advancing? Holy smokes talk about close. Alliance got put into a group that was basically a three way battle for advancing, as evident by both C9 and Alliance taking games from NWS. One mistake by Alliance (underestimating Kabum) cost them a chance at Quarters. TSM and SK got into a group with no Korean team, lucky them. SK losing one member seemed to completely crush their chances, because later with Sven on the team they looked so good. I would argue that SK looked better than Alliance. Imho, SK would have beat TSM out of the group stage, and may have even taken the group with Sven. But, they didn't. EU v NA in worlds? 3-3 in total. NA, however, had much more success against foreign teams. Better prepared or more skilled or otherwise, the gap between NA and EU is miniscule at best.
Bottom Line: NA showed up for once; EU did not.
You're funny. "The gap between NA and EU is miniscule at best." loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. NA is far more consistent this group stage. "SK would have beat TSM out of the group stage." TSM was wrecking them all game and made a mistake at the end and threw. But Alliance throws against Kabum and that's apparently more forgiveable. Keep fantasizing that SK would have beaten TSM. I didn't see them take a game from SHRC.
Bottom line: "The gap between NA and EU is miniscule at best" is all in your head dude. It is a dream. I don't see them in playoffs. I'm a Fnatic, Alliance, Roccat, and Gambit fan, but come on. "NA showed up for once..." you're funny bro. We did more than show up. You're devaluing our teams' hard work by saying they just "showed up." We beat your number 1 seed with our number 2 seed. We beat your number 2 seed with our number 3 seed. Overall we have 10 wins in worlds so far. EU has 7 wins.
Keep making your Alliance superteams. You can make one with Fredy, Diamond, Froggen, Rekkles, and Yellowstar for all I care. C9 doesn't have individual all-stars and rekt you with pure strategy. So much salt, I feel like I'm drowning in the sea.
Alliance vs C9 = 1/1 rekt
umm k
Don't worry though, we'll keep the bench nice and warm when Samsung hand your arses to you on silver platters. :')
Sorry couldn't hear you, drowning in Rekkles's tears. He would've loved to be the one getting their arses handed but they're not even good enough to be in the position to have their arses handed. It's like EU doesn't exist or something.
We could have an all American semifinal!!!!
(Wait, let me give these Rose colored glasses back to MonteCristo.)
KABUM skins ? i would buy them
Chinese teams restrain NA &EU teams ; EU / NA teams restrain Korean teams and Korean teams restrain Chinese teams.
I sincerely hope this is true
Because if so, we should have an NA team in the finals, as both NA teams are against KR teams in quarters, and are on the same side of the bracket.
Not only that, we would have an American World Champion, as the winner of TSM/C9 would meet NWS (Koreans beating Chinese), and the American team would win.
(Dammit, I have to stop borrowing these rose colored glasses from MonteCristo.)
Wait, what? "All that Alliance had to do to secure their spot in the Quarterfinals was win against a team that had yet to take a single match in Groups." ...uhhhm, I thought that Alliance beating Kabum would have merely put them into a tiebreaker with C9, so it technically wouldn't have been "all they had to do." They would still have had to beat C9 as well in order to "secure their spot in the Quarterfinals" ...unless I am somehow mistaken?
Well they need C9 to lose to NWS in their second game and Alliance had to beat kabum and then had to beat c9. So there were a number of things that had to be done for them to get out of groups. So no you aren't mistaken.
Why dont we wish a western team good luck?
I personally think the finals are going to Najin White, but I'd definitely say TSM pulled the hardest placement. Just my opinion, but I've had a feeling SSW was the strongest Korean team at worlds.
Congrats to advancing NA teams. I will root for TSM and C9 in the knockout stage, the lone beacons of hope in the great Asian sea...flies away
great games going here, now for the finishing blows :)_
