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Investigation: Marcin “Kori” Wolski and MeetYourMakers

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Immediately prior to the start of the 2015 LCS season, we were informed that Marcin “Kori” Wolski had decided to leave MeetYourMakers (MYM). LCS officials accepted it was an emergency situation and the team was allowed to use a substitute for the upcoming games in Wolski’s absence. Subsequent facts have come to light which exhibit significant mismanagement and unprofessional behavior from a senior member of MYM’s management team. In this kind of complex case, full investigation of the facts takes time to complete, but after review we wanted to give insight into our internal investigation and next steps. Although teams and players are ultimately responsible for navigating their own contractual relationships, we will do everything in our power to discourage and work against unacceptable environments involving our teams and players. We have zero tolerance for intimidation of players within an LCS organization. On January 23, 2015 Wolski reached out to LCS officials stating that he had been threatened by MYM management. He also informed LCS officials that he had a recording of the conversation. We took this matter very seriously and continued our open investigation into the mistreatment of the player, although given legal concerns regarding the recording which was obtained without all parties’ knowledge, we did not request or use it to inform our ongoing investigation. The severity of the situation has since emerged through the recording being made public by Wolski, showing that he and his immediate family were threatened with legal action by MYM manager Sebastian Rotterdam. Our investigation found fault on behalf of both player and management. Despite Wolski’s claims that payments had been withheld, we found the only missing payments stemmed from the Supa Hot Crew (SHC) organisation, of which Wolski was a player in the 2014 season. As we understand it, the failure to receive payments from SHC arose due to Wolski's own failure to provide requested tax documentation, and this problem can be resolved once Wolski produces these documents. As a separate organization, MYM has provided us with documentation verifying that they have not withheld any payment from its players. As such, it appeared that by leaving the team ahead of the beginning of the spring split Wolski was breaking an active contract and commitment to MYM. It is not our intention to create a precedent that discourages teams from discussing legal issues or informing players of their liabilities should they seek to disavow an existing contract, as in Wolski’s case. In fact, teams and players should have these conversations and negotiations independently and with full context and knowledge of the legal commitments and restrictions. What we also believe, however, is that teams have a moral commitment to treat players - who are often inexperienced and vulnerable - with dignity and respect. Rotterdam’s actions in conversation with Wolski when addressing this contract break were both unprofessional and unjustifiable. As confirmed by the team earlier today, MYM, of its own accord, has taken action against Rotterdam and fired him from his position as team manager. Rotterdam will also be indefinitely suspended by Riot from competing within the LCS as a manager or any other team position. An entire LCS organization shoulders the responsibility for the behavior of their team members and ensuring their players have a safe and professional environment. MYM will be held accountable for Rotterdam’s actions towards Wolski and for failing to protect their team members from his unacceptable and bullying behavior. As such, Riot will be issuing MYM with a fine of €5,000 for unprofessional behaviour. We know this fine may not satisfy those hoping for a harsher punishment for MYM, but there’s some important context as to how we reached this amount. In deciding the severity of the fine we took several factors into account. Primarily, we considered the fact that Rotterdam’s actions - and MYM’s failure to protect players from them - created an unprofessional work environment for the team. We also took into account the fact that MYM acted decisively to remove Rotterdam from the organization once the full facts of his behavior had come to light. Lastly, although it in no way justifies threats or intimidation, we also considered when deciding on a punishment the fact that Wolski appeared to break a commitment to a team, which put not only his career but those of his teammates in jeopardy. We’re aware that questions have been raised as to whether MYM should be stripped of their LCS slot. After concluding our investigation, we feel that MYM has taken significant steps to remove toxic influence from within their organization and is prepared to move forward in the best interests of their players and their competitive careers. We believe that forfeiting the slot would unnecessarily penalize players and interrupt their pro careers through no fault of their own. Even though MYM has acted swiftly to correct this issue, any further violations can and will put them on a path to suspension from the LCS. We appreciate the strength of community sentiment against any influence that would threaten or otherwise challenge the safety and security of pro teams and players. For Riot, cases like this tread a difficult balance between relying on the contractual relationships negotiated between teams and players to appropriately guide their behavior, and using our influence to try and ensure a professional, and ethical environment for those parties operating within the LCS ecosystem. Where we feel strongly that unprofessionalism is putting player security at risk, we can and will use our influence to try to ensure that the LCS pro experience is a positive one.

RELEVANT RULES

10.2.10 Moral Turpitude A Team Member may not engage in any activity which is deemed by the LCS to be immoral, disgraceful, or contrary to conventional standards of proper ethical behavior.

RULING

MYM has violated rule 10.2.10 of the LCS ruleset and will be subject to penalties.

COMPETITION PENALTIES

MYM is:
  • Fined €5000
Sebastian Rotterdam is:
  • Banned indefinitely from competing within the LCS as a manager or any other team position

43 Comments

Shkives46 votes

MYM threatens a 17 or 18 year old kid and his family. Documentation that the CEO was fully knowledgeable/involved. They say 'Big Sorry' and get off with a $5600 fine. CLG got fined 10 Large for picking up Scarra and Zion. Pretty sure they didn't threaten any minors. Riot's punishment of MYM way too soft. Guess hotshot forgot to say Big Sorry.

EeXoTiC6 votes

think about it MYM already got punished for kori leaving for rotterdam threatening they are what? 1 -5 ? thats worse than EVERVY punishment u can get. they got punished for being punished by themselves if you wanna say it like that. CLG however got an advantage for taking zion and scarra thats why they were banned for 1 / 3 weeks and so on. also MYM should have less money than clg so

DamHeFancy3 votes

you might have a serious brain problem. Go check it out before you type please

Lemwell2 votes

The difference was CLG organization made issues with all being fully aware, MYM as an organization didn't mess up, Sebastian Rotterdam did. and Kori. MYM didn't necessarily do anything.

Sl4B Bulkhe4D27 votes

5K and the words "big sorry" are enough to compensate threatening a young naive person's family during a dispute? Oh, and the burning of an already fired scapegoat. In the language of the game: Worth Baby, they got their player back.

DrMemes13 votes

And no mention of the CEO that was just as bad as Rotterdam.

Sl4B Bulkhe4D12 votes

naw, he "had no idea" despite the skype logs... fuggin creep.

Fusionskraftwerk1 votes

The skype logs don't say anything. Based on the skype logs, MYM wanted the fans not to blame Kori - there isn't mentioned MYM had problems if they told the truth. Therefore you cannot proof that anyone except Rotterdam and Kori knew about Rotterdam uttering that, so you can't punish them as if they'd known what was going on.

Meanie401 votes

This is like getting an ace for 1 in a team fight.

Worth every single day of the week.

warpedmind1 votes

kori seems not so innocent anymore. 1st he lied about not getting paid. 2nd it was illegal to record those dialouges and that he was threatened does not change this fact

besides that the CEO of MYM deserves a seperate punishment too

mqdt3cybCs9 votes

It was no illegal to record. You can record whenever you want, the legality comes into play when you try to use the recordings in an investigation. Unless you get consent from the parties the recordings can now be used or shown to anyone in a court proceeding or investigation therefore you are wrong. Making a recording is perfectly legal, using or distributing that recording is illegal.

nin71 votes

I think the legal concerns regarding the records doesn't come from their legality (or usability in court, or even the party consent thing), but from the legality of Riot acting on that kind of evidence. (Keep in mind that Riot is not an official sports asociation whith its attributions, but a videogame company and its authority is defined by comercial contract relations)

Fusionskraftwerk1 votes

I fear it was an illegal record. I don't know which country you are from, but as the EU LCS takes place in Berlin, I suppose they were both in Germany during that phone call. In Germany this is an indictable offence and can be punished with up to 3 years of prison sentence or a fine.

Groovus22 votes

This is what I have a problem with, "We also took into account the fact that MYM acted decisively to remove Rotterdam from the organization once the full facts of his behavior had come to light." because it's completely wrong.

MYM did not act to fire their manager until this whole situation became public. To repeat in easy to understand terms, MYM knew that their manager threatened both a player and the player's mother, and did not take action against the manager until their cover-up failed to work.

This is a disgusting act by MYM, and the fact that RIOT is okay with this is almost as bad.

Shuri14 votes

I'm American so I'm just gonna assume €5000 is like a million dollars.

Mildturtl7 votes

1 euro is around 1.10 usd

DillyG10112 votes

We have PROOF that the CEO knew about the threats happening and was actively trying to keep them secret, yet Riot is too afraid to take real action. Boycotting EU LCS until MYM is no longer apart of it.

FrenziedFalcon6 votes

Please show me your "PROOF" because in the Skype logs it just looks like a CEO trying to keep his player that was breaking his contract from blaming MYM for not paying him when it was really SHC that failed to pay, and it was Kori's fault that they didn't pay for not providing the tax documentation. Also, if you think RIOT or MYM didn't look at the Skype conversation and realize that the CEO had any idea about a threat, but you can look at them and have "PROOF" that he knew... then you, sir, must be a psychic.

BabyDoll6911 votes

That is pretty damn soft if you ask me. $5600 dollar fine for threatening him and his mothers house? That is bullshit, the kid is 17 or 18. I know I would be scared shitless if my employer who is much older than me makes personal threats to me or my family. Rito dropped the ball a little bit on this one, despite MYM's so called "significant steps" that they were forced to make for PR reasons. I think this is an underwhelming penalty, even if he did break part of his contract, I dont blame him for trying to leave.

FrenziedFalcon3 votes

Well the organization didn't threaten him, it was Rotterdam, who now is unemployed, and can't work in esports again. Also without proof how do you expect anyone else to get punished at all?

dat Vayne9 votes

5K? CLG gets fined more than that just for being late. I see why Doublelift doesn't trash talk much anymore. Rito might fine him

Narthsin7 votes

Riot got this one right, it would be a shame to screw things up for 4 other players who weren't involved. However, I will agree that the fine may be a bit lower than I expected.

TerraRising7 votes

My initial reaction was that the punishment wasn't enough. I'm still not sure the punishment is enough, to be honest, given the cavalier attitude MYM's people have shown since #BigSorry came to light.

Still, light fine and all, let's face facts:

  • Despite the possibly light punishment, MYM's reputation is soiled. I wouldn't be surprised if someone brought a "#BigSorry" sign to the EULCS tonight (and equally unsurprised if Rito confiscated every sign at every other LCS event, starting on Friday night.)
  • If Kori's lack of payment came from his failure to provide tax documents, that should have been clearly explained to him. This isn't just a problem with LCS but all professional organizations that hire teens with a lack of real world experience. Riot-sponsored classes on this sort of thing may need to become a requirement for LCS participation in the future.
  • I'm not sure that getting rid of Rotterdam removes the "toxic influence" from MYM. MYM's people seem to be pretty cavalier about where they stand in the whole thing. Also, Rotterdam wasn't fired until after the story leaked, meaning he was around the rest of the team for at least three weeks after the threat. Then, there's the way the CEO tried to spin Kori's return. Getting rid of one manager, I fear, doesn't bode well if the CEO can just go "Heh, we got away with it" in private.

I'm also hoping that when the next incident of "toxic team management" comes to light, the player doesn't need to be completely clean to be trusted by Riot.

TrollFan014 votes

Holy shit! This is the first tie I eve heard of a damn manager threatening a player. WTF was wrong with him? Glad MYM as a whole isn't going to be punished too harshly for this but I'm still worried.

NeoDeimos5 votes

If this is the first time you've heard of managers or other team executives meddling with and/or threatening players, then you didn't pay attention to Korea last year.

Long story short: ahq Korea's manager was telling his team to fix/throw some games. Promise (ahq's AD) exposed the scandal, and promptly jumped from 12 stories up to try to commit suicide (he survived somehow, w/ a few broken bones, and was back to playing LoL less than 6 months later).

TrollFan011 votes

Man that's even more fucked up. Glad Promise survived and got better.

ninbushido4 votes

I like how they state "facts have come to light" rather than mentioning Richard Lewis and his involvement in exposing the situation. They must really not like to give credit, information, or really anything to RL.

Cool Calm Cam3 votes

I'll take it.

Bunny Molester3 votes

i understand all of you guys not accepting the punishment, but lets wait and see if Kori is alright with this, if he is, so am i, and lets move on, as Riot said, if they keep doing this , they will be banned from LCS, let that hang for a bit, thats the real threat and punishment here

Smuglator3 votes

What about the fact that the CEO lied to Wolski about him not being able to play in the Challenger Series in the skype logs? Articles have noted that the contract only kept him from playing in the LCS. That is immoral conduct and an intimidation tactic... That was the CEO, not Rotterdam..

"However, Roar’s CEO, Eric Wong, spoke with someone at Riot Games, about a week earlier, and Wolski playing for the team in the Challenger Qualifiers was not a breach of contract with Riot nor MeetYourMakers. It turns out that what was said to Wolski by Khaled was a lie and Wolski could have played with Roar, but only in the Challenger Series.

Unfortunately due to the threats from MeetYourMakers, Wolski returned to MeetYourMakers for Week 3 out of fear. He came out on the MeetYourMakers’ website with a statement, of which can be found here. After, Khaled schemed with Wolski of how to cover the situation to make both ends seem in the right. " ( http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64692 )

The CEO WAS in fact also intimidating Wolski and spreading lies.

This was not enough punishment to the MYM organization. Blackmailing is a CRIME, not a breach of contract subject to fines.

RIOT, an answer? Hello?

sdchargers172 votes

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Kaká66 votes

um its 5,600 american dollars buddy

BBook15 votes

It's hilarious how you're being downvoted when you're spot on. $5,665.03 to be precise. It would appear that some people aren't up-to-date on the recent depreciation of the Euro.

Quagsires7 votes

I think he thought it was pounds, which converts to $7680.75 and is fairly close to that amount, but that's possibly even worse in mixing up those symbols.

guac in my ahri3 votes

is that him

Technimatic2 votes

It's actually 5,705 american dollars buddy.

musviskaren3 votes

I'd gladly take the extra ~$2400 that shouldn't even be there

Jambat2 votes

I'd love to see what would happen if someone pulled this in the NFL or NHL and people caught wind of it.

I bet they'd have more balls than to slap them with a 5k fine.

FrenziedFalcon6 votes

You'd be wrong, the guy that made the threat would be fired, the owner/CEO would most likely receive no punishment without (courtroom, not internet player bias) proof that he knew about it. Also the guy who was in the room but didn't report the threat would probably be fired.

Meanie402 votes

5000 euro? That's all?

.#BigSorry Riot, you screwed this one up.

NΦtSoFΔmΦψs1 votes

TLDR > don't threaten people. doesn't work Kappasummoner 31

Mee7er1 votes

They fined the organization. They banned the person directly involved in the dispute who was in the wrong.

I don't really see what else is left to be done.

Yeah, yeah. Fine everyone 10k. Fire everyone. Ban everybody.

That's totally fair for the other four players on MYM. Totally fair for the support staff.

And this is assuming they don't get a nasty backlash from any of their sponsors.

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