So I was watching the rebroadcast for the worlds finals earlier...

marpatt11·Nov 5, 2017·3 votes·1,252 views

...and people were just spamming the chat with jokes about how faker cried, they just relentlessly insulted and laughed at him, it was pretty harsh. But we have to remember, Faker is a human being, he may be good, but he has hopes, he has dreams, and he has emotions. imagine if you were in his shoes, being called the best of the best on a almost daily, if not daily basis, you've won worlds 3 times in a row, undefeated in actually winning it, 100% winrate on ryze in worlds too, and earlier you came back from a 2-0 match even when no one expected it, then you lose teamfight after teamfight, most of it wasn't exactly your fault though, you excuted almost perfectly, but you still lose, the first loss you've ever had at worlds. wouldn't you be defeated too? EDIT: oh and not to mention, he had eyes, around the entire world, watching him, there were also all the people in the stadium. No matter what you think or say, having that many eyes on you, while also having your team counting on you, would definitely affect play.

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GigglingdeathNov 5, 20173 votes

I'm not gonna lie, I don't like Faker all that much, I think he's arrogant and uptight, however, I felt really really bad to see him upset. He's still a human being, and I know that. Just because I don't like him doesn't mean I wished him to feel badly. I think anyone making fun of him needs to man up. The kid is doing what he loves, and probably the only thing he'll ever do in his life (career-wise). Failing at something you really love and you give your all to is heartbreaking. So as much as I don't really like the dude, everyone should cut him some slack.

FingolfinalNov 5, 20172 votes

I don't write this because I think is unjust people made fun of Faker. He was like a classic salty LOL player that types "ez" at first blood and then losing the match. Is fun to be like that... until you lose. He was not acting.. like Conor McGregor, he meant all the cocky lines he said. And that's why he cried... the sky is falling down :D

Plus remember, they are payed a lot... he is rich enough not to care about losing the 1st position money... as a poor guy, I don't feel so bad for him :D.

What amazes me is that they are not mature enough to take a lose at this professional level... feeling bad? I feel for him. Crying? I feel for him... not being able to stand up and shake winners hands bcuz you cry so much... well that's 12 years old ego and I don't feel for him. ESPORTS pros seems to be clicking machines (except Misfits, those guys are awesome)

I think Riot did a mistake not to give some silver medals to the second place... that would have cost them nothing, but probably they didn't think about it. Like in soccer championship ceremony, first silver medals then gold medals.

wyvern011976Nov 5, 20172 votes

Agreed. Making fun of him is childish, but in truth his reaction was not on a professional level. He has no issue with winning, but his reaction to losing was not good for him, his team, his sponsors, or the sport.

marpatt11Nov 5, 20171 votes

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I don't write this because I think is unjust people made fun of Faker. He was like a classic salty LOL player that types "ez" at first blood and then losing the match. Is fun to be like that... until you lose. He was not acting.. like Conor McGregor, he meant all the cocky lines he said. And that's why he cried... the sky is falling down :D

Plus remember, they are payed a lot... he is rich enough not to care about losing the 1st position money... as a poor guy, I don't feel so bad for him :D.

What amazes me is that they are not mature enough to take a lose at this professional level... feeling bad? I feel for him. Crying? I feel for him... not being able to stand up and shake winners hands bcuz you cry so much... well that's 12 years old ego and I don't feel for him. ESPORTS pros seems to be clicking machines (except Misfits, those guys are awesome)

I think Riot did a mistake not to give some silver medals to the second place... that would have cost them nothing, but probably they didn't think about it. Like in soccer championship ceremony, first silver medals then gold medals.

Uh, off the bat, did you even read my post? If you were in his shoes, you would've probably cried too. But also, if you saw ANY of the clips of him crying, all the other members of SKT T1 get up and shake the hands of SSG, then Bang tries to convince Faker to get up, he does, shakes hands with at least one of them, then gets sits back down.

FingolfinalNov 5, 20171 votes

I read my post, you probably didn't read mine.

If I was him I would have probably cried too. And If I was him I would have been this cocky too... Like I was once in my life... when I was ? 12 years old?

Guess what, if you were me you would post this post too. Because you were me.

tea tìmeNov 5, 20171 votes

Guy, I don't even pay attention to Twitch chat. It's a hivemind mentality, everyone finds themselves an edgelord on there, with just a bunch of memes to spout.

Normal people like you and I understand what happened and don't bother making a joke out of it. That's the human kindness that's hard to find on the internet. Too much anonymity so no one can get their shit kicked out of them.

marpatt11Nov 5, 20171 votes

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Guy, I don't even pay attention to Twitch chat. It's a hivemind mentality, everyone finds themselves an edgelord on there, with just a bunch of memes to spout.

Normal people like you and I understand what happened and don't bother making a joke out of it. That's the human kindness that's hard to find on the internet. Too much anonymity so no one can get their shit kicked out of them.

Yeah, for the most part I agree with you, but sometimes chat can have at least a little bit of heart, im just shocked that people that play the game/are interested in League as an Esport, would make fun of him in such a way, like litterally I was there for like 10 minutes and it was at the third game and people were just spamming the chat with this "Get Fakers emotes for free: :( , BibleThump, BabyRage" like litterally it adds nothing to faker crying, yet it was just being spammed and spammed along with some LUL/LuL's attached to it, it was just, awful.

TLDR: sometimes chat has a heart, but im shocked that people reacted this way.

tea tìmeNov 5, 20171 votes

At this point in time, I try to find solace in people who can understand the situation. It always gives me hope that there are people out there that don't find it all a fucking joke or try to make a "meme" out of EVERYTHING. So yeah, I understand completely. I sometimes have to hide chat, just because of that. Laughing at someone crying... Sociopaths probably, the lot of them. (Because we all know that's not what they'd do at their face, let's be fucking honest) =\

marpatt11Nov 5, 20171 votes

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At this point in time, I try to find solace in people who can understand the situation. It always gives me hope that there are people out there that don't find it all a fucking joke or try to make a "meme" out of EVERYTHING. So yeah, I understand completely. I sometimes have to hide chat, just because of that. Laughing at someone crying... Sociopaths probably, the lot of them. (Because we all know that's not what they'd do at their face, let's be fucking honest) =\

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs] Yup, but the way I see it is that, you have to have a balance of humor and sadness, if you have too much dark, there is no light, too much light, and there is no dark. If everything was a meme, then nothing would be a meme (since meme's are usually supposed to be funny, but you don't have a high enough iq to understand that ( <-- meme inside of brackets talking about a meme)

Sagan ForeverNov 5, 20171 votes

I feel like this was 3 years worth of pressure being realised, and I do not get why people do not understand that.

wyvern011976Nov 5, 20171 votes

Not a fan of assholes being assholes but, Faker is a "professional" paid way too much money to play a video game. Crying over it is not the best way to show professionalism. Half the reason people watch "sporting" events is to watch the favorite fall. So, if you want to compete at that level you need to have the dignity to lose with decorum. He also represents a brand (SOUTH KOREA TELECOM) that does not want you behave that way.

Kids making fun of other kids is never good, but if you want to make money and be treated like an adult you need to behave like one. His actions were not up to that standard. So, frankly while I feel bad for him, his actions prompted and gave opportunity to the posts.

GigglingdeathNov 5, 20172 votes

You do realize that older adults in other sports cry when they lose as well right? Olympics? Football? Soccer? Tennis? People cry when they are upset. Especially when it's something they really really care about and love. He was frustrated and upset. The kid is also under a lot of pressure, ofc he's going to have a breaking point mentally. Are you saying if you were in his position you would have been able to sit there straight faced and not be upset at all?

wyvern011976Nov 5, 20171 votes

Being upset is expected, being absolutely distraught is not. Tearing up is one thing, bawling like a baby and collapsing is another. That is also not good for the sport or the brand he represents. Part of being a "professional" is how you handle pressure and defeat. It takes more than winning to stay at that level. You have to be able to handle defeat and still not embarrass your sponsors and fans.

GigglingdeathNov 5, 20172 votes

I'm not embarrassed? I love SKT. I don't like Faker very much, but I still love SKT. This is his first real let down in almost 3 years. He had probably already been stressed from previous performances. And tbh, you have no idea what's going on in his life. Maybe it's not just the game that has him upset. If you're really going to judge him for having a moment then I guess you do you. But the majority of adults understand he had a moment. Only children make fun of him and only those that have never had a letdown clearly don't understand where he might be coming from. Have a heart dude.

tea tìmeNov 5, 20172 votes

You've clearly never had anything you wanted so much. You're a lousy person in general.

wyvern011976Nov 5, 20171 votes

And you are clearly a child who does not know me or how to have a real conversation. When you grow up you will understand. Again crying is fine, but he is a representative of an organization and a brand. His livelihood depends on his professionalism and the image he projects. When you behave contrary to that, then people calling him out on it is to be expected.

Try reading the posts kid before you make yourself look stupid again plz.

MacallaNov 5, 20171 votes

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Being upset is expected, being absolutely distraught is not. Tearing up is one thing, bawling like a baby and collapsing is another. That is also not good for the sport or the brand he represents. Part of being a "professional" is how you handle pressure and defeat. It takes more than winning to stay at that level. You have to be able to handle defeat and still not embarrass your sponsors and fans.

Oh I think maybe you are too harsh but the thing that makes it stick out, he is known for being without emotion, stoic throughout all the seasons, never see him smile or grimace just stone faced most of the time.

tea tìmeNov 5, 20171 votes

Of course he would cry like a bitch if he was in his position. And probably out of rage 100% and not sadness. People try to act tough all the time without imagining what it's like living in someone else's shoes. The EGO is WAAAAAY up here at an all time high since these new wave memes. Everything is a joke, or not to be taken seriously otherwise you're a bitch who can't handle losing, etc.

wyvern011976Nov 5, 20171 votes

No he is right to be upset. He is not right to express it in that way. He is not just "Faker" on that stage. He represents SKT as an organized team, South Korea Telecom as a company, countless smaller sponsors, the fans of his organization/regions, and the League of Legends professional community. Part of be taken serious is acting serious. Again, tearing up and even crying it to be expected but not a full scale break down. Now people are not right to make fun of him, but his behavior was very unbecoming of some hailed as the "greatest" to play the game. Iy really devalued the title and frankly his own reputation.

wonthreeNov 6, 20171 votes

Pessimistic*[slayer-jinx-unamused]*

HaIlMonitorNov 5, 20171 votes

most of it wasn't exactly your fault though, you excuted almost perfectly

Did you actually watch it? He played poorly, just like everyone else on his team. Other teams are starting to catch up and honestly his run has been a long time. A lot of Pro gamers dont last forever, only 5 or so years.

But to make my point. After SKT lost, the only thing people talked about is how good Faker is, and how amazing SKT is... No, they lost hard. People need to respect them as a team, but stop acting like they are gods among men.

marpatt11Nov 5, 20171 votes

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Did you actually watch it? He played poorly, just like everyone else on his team. Other teams are starting to catch up and honestly his run has been a long time. A lot of Pro gamers dont last forever, only 5 or so years.

But to make my point. After SKT lost, the only thing people talked about is how good Faker is, and how amazing SKT is... No, they lost hard. People need to respect them as a team, but stop acting like they are gods among men.

TBH, No, I didn't watch it, because of the disgusting actions of the chat. Just kinda heard here and there that bang was the real problem, my mistake.

HaIlMonitorNov 5, 20171 votes

It feels like people are just blaming Bang because it "Cant be Fakers Fault". The only person that seemed to play well to me was Huni, but SSG was ready to punish the style he plays.

marpatt11Nov 5, 20171 votes

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It feels like people are just blaming Bang because it "Cant be Fakers Fault". The only person that seemed to play well to me was Huni, but SSG was ready to punish the style he plays.

Yeah, I've been hearing that "Skt lost because of bot lane focused meta" idk if that is true, but it seems like it could be, at least to me. Faker isn't at all perfect and he could've made some mistakes here and there (again, didn't watch) but to me, I care more about the skins then the actual worlds. Because think about it, you're cheering on a team, made by people you probably couldn't name, most likely from your region, for what reason? why do you care about if they win (getting money! and fame) or lose (Not getting that stuff) other then the skins? like seriously. I don't get it, but hey, maybe the new SSG skins that are comin out are going to be great, considering the new design approach for ESport skins (I'm reffering to the latest SKT ones we got)

ModPrandineNov 6, 2017

Unfortunately this is just the nature of Twitch chat on large channels most of the time as allot of Twitch chat users only use it to make fun of and insult other people when they make a mistake. In the future I would recommend just using the lolesports site to watch the games. If not that then simply just don't put too much stock in Twitch chat and/or just ignore it altogether as you're rarely gonna find any helpful or constructive chat there,

P.S. You shouldn't let the poor behaviors of Twitch chat (or Youtube chat if watching live from there) discourage you from watching games. I understand your concerns but to me it just seems like a pointless reason to try to justify not watch the games.