Do challengers have a gift or just practiced a lot?

Aonraider·4/19/2016, 6:43:56 PM·2 votes·3,395 views

i may be dreaming too big but ive been playing for 6 months and was placed silver 4 after my first promos in preseason, now im bronze 5 and rlly discouraged (1 game and im bronze 4). im dreaming challenger but its rlly hard for me to get out of bronze...

9 Comments

venomous frost4/19/2016, 6:54:38 PM1 votes

practice makes perfect.

also, most challenger players are probably people who have a long history of playing dota/warcraft/starcraft/....

worm4/19/2016, 7:26:01 PM1 votes

Not everyone is capable of getting Challenger no matter how much they practice.

TurquoiseYoshi4/19/2016, 7:35:50 PM1 votes

Both. Many Challengers play/practice for most of the day, since they're pro. Many have previous experience in other games (many of the older League pros hit rank 1 in other games before League existed). Some just have really good reflexes and gained elo from that. One-tricking is also pretty popular, and some pros got to where they were because of that (GBM on Ori, Flarez on Hecarim).

Pierce The Veal4/19/2016, 7:47:00 PM1 votes

Probably both. You definitely need a certain amount of reaction speed and hand eye coordination which can only be trained up to a certain point, the rest of it is talent. Though there's no reason for someone with average talent not to get plat or diamond with enough practice. To to mention that talent doesn't cut it. I can react to stuff in 50-100 milliseconds, which is fricking good reaction speed, but it doesn't matter because I never practice it, nor do I really care about my rank in League. But I am willing to bet that there are a few people with 150-200 millsecond reaction speeds in plat and diamond. It's mostly about how much you play and practice up to that point, after which talent is what sets you apart from the rest (aka getting master and challenger.

To people who are inevitably going to go hurrdurr you don't have that sort of reaction speed otherwise you'd be challenjour: I'm studying to become a doctor, and trying to start my own business(es). And I simply can't find the time to play league at most times (and I often spend the time I could be playing League of the forums). That and I quit for the last 2 years, coming back only on and off. But to those of you with aspirations in this game, you can do it as long as you try hard enough! Just don't forget those of us in the real world ;P

GhostOfTsushima4/19/2016, 8:09:45 PM1 votes

Well unlike us, Challenger and High Diamond+ player, they gain enormous amount of LP after each new season start

They only require at least 3 win in a row to reach series as we have to win 5 in a row which is barely possible because you clearly can't win that many game in a row unless you are LUCKY Riot don't que you with kids

mfknlwig4/20/2016, 10:01:42 AM1 votes

one part loving a champ other part being great wiith them an lots of team work

No name just me4/20/2016, 10:27:17 AM1 votes

It takes legitimate practice if you want to be good at anything. If you were to pick up a random musical instrument you've never played before, unless you're Mozart you're gonna suck at it for a long time before you're even half decent. This game is the same way, you have to suck long before you're decent, and you have to be decent long before you're pro.

DestructoDave4/20/2016, 9:06:51 PM1 votes

Combination of both. You can't realistically be the best at something if you dont have a natural affinity for it. You can throw footballs 24 hrs a day and never be as good as Tom Brady; hell maybe never as good as a college level player. Sometimes, it just isn't in the cards. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you played for 6 months and aren't already plat or higher, then you probably wont ever be challenger. Most good players mention reaching plat in their first season of ranked, etc.

That doesnt mean you cant get better. You could probably eventually at least get plat or diamond if you spammed games, mained a champ, and focused on getting better. Ranked is a time investment. Just your curve is going to be slow and not peak as high as talented players. Some people are just going to be better than you in a shorter amount of time, or always better. It didnt matter how much I practiced shooting ppl back when I played FPS games; I had a RL friend who was always simply better. I practiced all day, every day, just spamming games. He log on just wreck games, me, people, tournaments, get called a cheater, etc. As another poster said, at some point hard work won't take you any farther. I doubt you are anywhere close to that point. Especially since league doesnt really require that amazing of eye-hand coordination or reflexes. There are high rated Garen/Annie/Warwick mains for god's sake. It doesnt take much eye-hand coordination to click R on people with Warwick, so if people can ride him to diamond, you probably can too when you gain enough game knowledge.

I know its nice dreaming. I dreamed about being a god Quake/Unreal player. I dreamed about being an amazing pool player. And I kept plugging at it. I never became godlike, but I did get a hell of a lot better. Just keep plugging away, and focus on getting better and not just on winning. I think just about anyone can hit plat or diamond with the right champs and enough time. Also, if you REALLY care about getting better, you have to start using your time wisely. Just spamming endless games without any direction is going to take you far longer to get better than spamming them with a purpose. Its like any practice regimen. Hell, its like studying. I was always a cram study person. Sometimes I would try the 2-3 week long 1-2 hour a day study sessions, but I always did WORSE on tests. Because large portions of that time was wasted. Not paying attention, not studying hard, piddling, not even really trying to learn, just putting the time in. But when I last minute crammed, I was focused as hell becuase its now or never. I would always make A's. I remembered far more shit, because I used my 4-5 hour cram session FAR more efficiently and better than my 2-3 week study session. I crammed my way all the way through college.

Anyways, dont let not being a pro discourage you. You may not have the talent to be a pro player, but you can always be a streamer, or probably a high elo playe with enough practice, mainly because league has ways to circumvent "talent." Namely, incredibly easy to play champs that don't require you to have the reflexes or precision of a Quake/CS:Go player to succeed. Like I said, if people can main crap like Warwick and Garen to diamond, anyone can with enough practice.

Kal Vas Flam4/20/2016, 10:44:14 PM1 votes

The biggest mistake low ELO players make is switching between champions all the time. The vast majority of Challenger caliber players got there spamming the same champion every game. Find a champion you like that is also good in the meta and that will help tremendously. Practice helps of course, but one advantage to truly mastering a champ is you need less practice overall since you will be learning fewer champions. You still do need to learn other champions for the sake of understand how to play against them - so I would recommend a good mix of ARAM to educate yourself. Lastly you can get to Challenger with reflexes or great game knowledge. Preferably both, but it is possible to climb really high with a specialty in one or the other.