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In no world can TL beat IG in a BO5! It was rigged!

Druid Eldric·5/19/2019, 6:28:54 PM·3 votes·1,927 views

Now before I get hated for this from salty NA fans that actually belief TL could beat IG listen.

First of all let me state some facts.. and no, this are not opinions, its just facts.

Fact 1: League of legends has been declining in the west for many years now. Its no secret. Everybody that has a brain knows that in north america and europe league of legends is losing huge amounts of players. Now i am not saying league of legends is dying by any means. It may be even gaining players in certain regions. but once again, the west is losing players.

Fact 2: Tencent, a chinese company owns league of legends. Basically they have the saying what happens to future league of legends.

Fact 3: The chinese government controlls everything in china. Like litteraly everything. the food you eat, the stuff you watch , the internet and all you can think of.

The smart move for Tecent would be to make IG lose to TL to boost league in the west again. Wow... a NA team in the finals. Massive puplicity for the game. Getting people hyped and interested again. A company will do whatever it takes to keep high profits. Now this here is a guess, but I would asume that the money Riot (Tencent) makes from League is mostly from the west. The west (your average western player) just has so much more money to spend than someone from the east.

If you just look at the games IG played... XD. Do you really think they made all of those mistakes unintentually. Like actually played that bad... xD Sry to disapoint you. But they lost on purpose.

If G2 can smash TL and IG can smash G2... use ur brains . just think.

I am an Eu fan, and the MSI win does not seem satisfying at all. Cause i know if IG wanted to , they would have smaseh TL and G2 later in the finals.

I have a lot more to say about this, but lets just see how it gets received.

13 Comments

G Master Hung5/19/2019, 6:33:57 PM4 votes

TL beat IG tho. It wasn't rigged, also the transative property doesn't apply here, its like saying if TL beat TSM and TL also beat IG than TSM could beat IG, it simply doesn't work.

ModThe Djinn5/19/2019, 6:41:00 PM4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Druid Eldric,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=do6E8pKl,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-19T18:28:54.122+0000)Fact 1: League of legends has been declining in the west for many years now. Its no secret. Everybody that has a brain knows that

League was actually growing up until around 2017, and has only taken a about a 20% drop since then, which is a relatively reasonable drop considering how high they peaked. The fact that they are "losing huge amounts of players" seems based in no meaningful data.

About the best way to calculate this is to look at the available ranked data, which gives players playing ranked. By that basis EUW lost about 300000 players from 2016 and NA lost about 200000, both from player pools of about 2.9 million and 1.8 million. That means that League spiked in 2016 in NA and 2017 in EUW, but the numbers on either side of those spikes are consistent -- from 2015 to 2018 EUW ended slightly higher than their 2015 values, and NA ended slightly lower. That implies a spike and a return to normality rather than a massive loss over "many years," and that's assuming that trend is mirror in casual play, which is something we don't really have data on.

Fact 2: Tencent, a chinese company owns league of legends. Basically they have the saying what happens to future league of legends.

Tencent is fairly well known for being rather hands-off with League, actually. They've owned a controlling share for about six years now, and League has just sort of been doing its thing.

The smart move for Tecent would be to make IG lose to TL to boost league in the west again. Wow... a NA team in the finals. Massive puplicity for the game. Getting people hyped and interested again. A company will do whatever it takes to keep high profits.

Or...or...bear with me here...maybe you're not as correct as you think when you say that victory was impossible. At some point we have to acknowledge that a team winning a match they weren't expected to win can and does happen (underdog victories have happened all the time in League's competitive history), and that's significantly more likely than all the (independently owned/operated) eSports organizations being okay with throwing a game and thus their chances of making money.

Now this here is a guess, but I would asume that the money Riot (Tencent) makes from League is mostly from the west. The west (your average western player) just has so much more money to spend than someone from the east.

I'm pretty sure this is simply guesswork, and somewhat biased guesswork at that, as there are many well-off individuals in many non-western countries. Korea alone is about 20% larger than EUW, and we don't even have the numbers for the Garena servers (save that it's huge).

ChompyWulf5/19/2019, 6:52:29 PM1 votes

I'm ok with suspecting and assuming Samsung Blue threw their match against Samsung White back at Season 4 Worlds semifinals. Both under same ownership and one made utterly nonsensical drafts and plays that ultimately led to a loss.

This is a new level of lunacy. LoL makes tons of money off skin and champ sales as well as sponsorship deals and advertising across a number of regions. There have been no major reports of profit failings, so to assume this in a vacuum is just a tinfoil cap conspiracy.

Sir Saltarin5/19/2019, 6:54:41 PM1 votes

Yikes

GeminiRune5/19/2019, 6:59:51 PM1 votes

I like how none of these facts equate to anything as to how the game played out on a given day. But instead inflate some fantasy story about how "scripted" League is.

For IG, it's shoulda, woulda, coulda. They aren't and weren't gods. The LPL can just show you that.

Nik Nikerson5/19/2019, 7:05:20 PM1 votes

If the Jaguars beat the Patriots last year, and the Chiefs beat the Jaguars, how did the Patriots beat the Chiefs? It doesn't make any sense! USE YOUR BRAINS SHEEPLE! It's all rigged, and no team has either stylistically matched up poorly against another team that is, in a vacuum, weaker, nor have they ever overlooked a weaker opponent leaving them open to being upset. Just think.

Druid Eldric5/19/2019, 8:02:04 PM1 votes

sadly it is harder to convince someone he has been fooled than to fool someone....

I i said before, did you actually watch the series and think? Every 2 mins there was a play that IG made that they would have not even considered making before.

Ryze Ult into orianna. orianna R 3 people and IG get smashed... like a bronze player may be impressed by that but comon, what did you expect would happen. lee sin level 14, reksai level 13, doesent go for the steal but fights instead-.- like srsly, you really think a tier 1 team makes those mistakes -.-

This is just 2 out of atleast 50 extrem examples in this series where IG went for obv bad moves that even my hardstuck trashelo brain can see. I understand that even tier 1 team can make mistakes and really bad calls. But bad call after bad call and again another one. 20 sec later the next bad mistake.

And I get what you all are saying with A beats B , B beats C , and C beats A and yeah, thats totally possible if the teams are somewhat close in skill. But G2 just smashed TL , 0 chance, 0 hope, 0 anything And IG smashed G2 with 0 chance

And in a BO1 TL can take a game off of any team in the world. But in a BO5 its close to 0 to beat IG let alone 3-1.

if A smashes B, B smahes C, sry, but C winning against A is close to 0.....

FireLion225/20/2019, 1:05:50 PM1 votes

In my opinion, IG underestimated TL and were more focused on smashing them and having fun then actually winning. By the time they started trying it was too late.

Tr4shB4NSYST3M5/22/2019, 4:50:16 PM1 votes

Nah its this meta, We are in a "team-deathmatch" meta which is essentially nearly decided at champ select by team that drafts the better comp at constantly fighting wins.

III BAKURYU III 5/25/2019, 10:59:45 AM1 votes

I personally think both IG and SKT(manly IG and I fully applaud G2 beating SKT) didn't give a s$it after making it to the Playoff Stage of MSI. Let's be real here for a moment - MSI only matters to get a #1 seed for Worlds and that's by making it to Playoffs.
Fatigue is a big factor in which I'm sure the players would rather have X days off than winning a plastic trophy. Both IG and SKT were most likely around 50-70% focus on such games but mainly IG in my opinion as I stated earlier I honestly think G2 just smashed SKT at most likely around 70%.